141 Comm Hour Requirements

[jhendrickson2203]

I was told by my FI today that in order to complete the Comm rating under 141 that the course consisted of 120 hours of Comm flight training. I was under the impression that I only need a 190TT to get my Comm rating under 141. Can anyone clarify this for me? Is it 120TT in an airplane of actually 120hours of Comm 141 Flight Training?

[MusketeerMan]

Yes, you need 120 hours of commercial training, but only 55 with an instructor.

From Appendix D to 141 in the FAR's

4. Flight training. (a) Each approved course must include at least the following flight training, as provided in this section and section No. 5 of this appendix, on the approved areas of operation listed in paragraph (d) of this section that are appropriate to the aircraft category and class rating for which the course applies:
(1) 120 hours of training if the course is for an airplane or powered-lift rating.
(2) 155 hours of training if the course is for an airship rating.
(3) 115 hours of training if the course is for a rotocraft rating.
(4) 6 hours of training if the course is for a glider rating.
(5) 10 hours of training and 8 training flights if the course is for a balloon rating.
(b) Each approved course must include at least the following flight training:
(1) For an airplane single-engine course: 55 hours of flight training from a certificated flight instructor on the approved areas of operation listed in paragraph (d)(1) of this section that includes at least—
(i) 5 hours of instrument training in a single-engine airplane;
(ii) 10 hours of training in a single-engine airplane that has retractable landing gear, flaps, and a controllable pitch propeller, or is turbine-powered;
(iii) One cross-country flight in a single-engine airplane of at least a 2-hour duration, a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure, and occurring in day VFR conditions;
(iv) One cross-country flight in a single-engine airplane of at least a 2-hour duration, a total straight-line distance of more than 100 nautical miles from the original point of departure, and occurring in night VFR conditions; and
(v) 3 hours in a single-engine airplane in preparation for the practical test within 60 days preceding the date of the test.

[nosehair]

Originally Posted by MusketeerMan

Yes, you need 120 hours of commercial training, but only 55 with an instructor.

Well, since you threw in "only 55 with an instructor", I feel I have to further clarify that the other 65 solo hours must be in the commercial program to complete a total of 120 supervised curriculum hours.

[mojo6911]

Originally Posted by jhendrickson2203

I was told by my FI today that in order to complete the Comm rating under 141 that the course consisted of 120 hours of Comm flight training. I was under the impression that I only need a 190TT to get my Comm rating under 141. Can anyone clarify this for me? Is it 120TT in an airplane of actually 120hours of Comm 141 Flight Training?

Open the FAR/AIM, and look it up next time. As a commercial pilot, you need to be familiar with the regs, and how to look things up. As stated before, the 190TT is the BARE MINIMUM from private through commercial, part 141. Private 35 + Instrument 35 + Commercial 120 = 190

Any flights that you do that aren't in the order of your school's syllabus, DO NOT COUNT.

[MusketeerMan]

Bottom line...go 61 for the commercial...unless you're using VA bennies or something. Total hour requirement is more, but you're basically free to do whatever route you want. I finished my commercial training, and then to get me closer to 250, I started my right seat CFI training.