Blue Angels crash - Page 2

SkyCougar · April 22nd, 2007, 00:58

I remember him, his smile, and what a polite gentleman he was. I am a Navy daughter and I have always loved the Blue Angels. I try to never miss Fleet Week in San Francisco. This past October, I was there, and was invited to some Fleet Week activities. I had great pleasure in buying the Blues and their wives and significant others, a round of drinks at the bar after their final show. He was there, smiling, and ever the gracious gentleman.

Godspeed my Blue Angel who has entered the White light.

mojo6911 · April 22nd, 2007, 01:08

What happened?

PGT · April 22nd, 2007, 01:09

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Originally Posted by JEP

One thing he mentioned was the fact that the pilots don't wear the normal G-Suits because they get in the way of the pilots arm in the precise movements...

True

Maximillian_Jenius · April 22nd, 2007, 01:44

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Originally Posted by fiveninerzero

I watched it go down live in person this afternoon. R.I.P.

Care to give us details about the crash that you saw in person that maybe the media has left out, or just isn't as aware of?

mikecweb · April 22nd, 2007, 01:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEP

Just saw a blurb on CNN. What does Miles Davis know about an F/A18. Last I recalled he flies an SR22.

Last I recalled he knew more about Jazz....Unless you're talking about Miles O'Brien

Doug Taylor · April 22nd, 2007, 01:48

Some CNN coverage for those of us that were working and don't want to wade thru the vomitous Nancy Grace:

Maximillian_Jenius · April 22nd, 2007, 01:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Some CNN coverage for those of us that were working and don't want to wade thru the vomitous Nancy Grace:

Linky: http://youtube.com/watch?v=-lKuanASdTs

JEP · April 22nd, 2007, 02:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecweb

Last I recalled he knew more about Jazz....Unless you're talking about Miles O'Brien

Oops, doing to many things at once, typing, eating, surfing, listening to Miles....Davis that is....

JEP · April 22nd, 2007, 02:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Some CNN coverage for those of us that were working and don't want to wade thru the vomitous Nancy Grace:

video, no worky.......

Maximillian_Jenius · April 22nd, 2007, 02:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEP

video, no worky.......

That would be why I provided a linky in post #32!

JEP · April 22nd, 2007, 02:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

That would be why I provided a linky in post #32!

Which is why I tried your linky...which also no worky......try it, you'll see.....

right back at you.....

Maximillian_Jenius · April 22nd, 2007, 02:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEP

Which is why I tried your linky...which also no worky......try it, you'll see.....

right back at you.....

Naw, won't accept that SA. I can't control that the owner of said video removed it!

aloft · April 22nd, 2007, 04:16

The pilot was LCDR Kevin Davis, he was the team narrator last year, this was his first year as a demo pilot.

Doug Taylor · April 22nd, 2007, 11:13

One of my pals in SLC was a Blue Angel and a Marine as well.

Airdale · April 22nd, 2007, 12:18

Sad. Those Blue Angel pilots are like hero's in my eyes. I've watched them since I was a little kid.

PGT · April 22nd, 2007, 12:37

How does something like this affect their schedule? Do they call it for for a while or the whole season?

In no way is this a disrespect to the pilot, I'm just wondering how an accident like this is taken care of.

H46Bubba · April 22nd, 2007, 12:56

When my buddy was a Blues airframe QA, he took me on a tour of their hangar down in Pensacola. They actually have several back up aircraft with duplicate numbers painted on the tail so they can rotate aircraft when phase inspections are due, which time cylces very depending on airframe. Ours was every 100 hrs. So basically there are two #6 and so on. The Blues will cancel some shows until the board of inquiry is convened for the mishap. That will give the pilots and mechs to get back into the groove and get ready to continue on. The #7 pilot is the MC and will most likely be the replacement. There might be a little musical ejection seats to get the show back on the road.

PGT · April 22nd, 2007, 13:02

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Originally Posted by H46Bubba

When my buddy was a Blues airframe QA, he took me on a tour of their hangar down in Pensacola. They actually have several back up aircraft with duplicate numbers painted on the tail so they can rotate aircraft when phase inspections are due, which time cylces very depending on airframe. Ours was every 100 hrs. So basically there are two #6 and so on. The Blues will cancel some shows until the board of inquiry is convened for the mishap. That will give the pilots and mechs to get back into the groove and get ready to continue on. The #7 pilot is the MC and will most likely be the replacement. There might be a little musical ejection seats to get the show back on the road.

Do they still fly the #6 or is it not used for the rest of the year?

Kristie · April 22nd, 2007, 13:06

was he too low to eject?

H46Bubba · April 22nd, 2007, 13:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by PGT

Do they still fly the #6 or is it not used for the rest of the year?

If they don't have a dual #6, than they will use the #7 aircraft till a substitute #6 a/c can be added.

JEP · April 22nd, 2007, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristie

was he too low to eject?

Quite possibly could have stayed with the plane trying to keep it away from houses/people etc.....

Is there too low an altitude? What about too fast a speed?

TheAlchemist · April 22nd, 2007, 13:11

Rest in Peace!

H46Bubba · April 22nd, 2007, 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristie

was he too low to eject?

Most of the solo stuff is down low. It sounded like he was low, but as long as your above 100 ft you can eject safely. I'm thinking that there going to look into why he didn't eject by looking at the remains of the ejection seat and system and will also look into the flight control/hydraulic system. He could have had been trying to dead stick it to an unihabited area. We'll just have to wait and see what the NAVAIR invetigation team comes up with.

Airdale · April 22nd, 2007, 13:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by JEP

Quite possibly could have stayed with the plane trying to keep it away from houses/people etc.....

Is there too low an altitude? What about too fast a speed?

With as good as the Blue Angel pilots are, I would find it very hard to believe it was pilot error, especially since they weren't doing any knife edges and only one aircraft was involved. I'd bet money is was an aircraft problem. The Blue Angels are on the top of my list as THE best pilots in the world. Its ashame he didn't eject, but like you said, he might have been trying to keep the aircraft from killing people on the ground. That sounds like something noble that any Blue Angel pilot would do.

JEP · April 22nd, 2007, 13:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by H46Bubba

Most of the solo stuff is down low. It sounded like he was low, but as long as your above 100 ft you can eject safely. I'm thinking that there going to look into why he didn't eject by looking at the remains of the ejection seat and system and will also look into the flight control/hydraulic system. He could have had been trying to dead stick it to an unihabited area. We'll just have to wait and see what the NAVAIR invetigation team comes up with.

check the video here if you haven't seen it. You can see the a/c make a sharp left bank turning to join the others and then it drops.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18248797/

...they appear to have edited out the plane goign down.....

April 22nd, 2007, 00:58	#26
SkyCougar Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SFO Posts: 3,912	Re: Blue Angels crash I remember him, his smile, and what a polite gentleman he was. I am a Navy daughter and I have always loved the Blue Angels. I try to never miss Fleet Week in San Francisco. This past October, I was there, and was invited to some Fleet Week activities. I had great pleasure in buying the Blues and their wives and significant others, a round of drinks at the bar after their final show. He was there, smiling, and ever the gracious gentleman. Godspeed my Blue Angel who has entered the White light.

April 22nd, 2007, 01:08	#27
mojo6911 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: GKY Posts: 1,915	Re: Blue Angels crash What happened?

April 22nd, 2007, 01:48	#31
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Blue Angels crash Some CNN coverage for those of us that were working and don't want to wade thru the vomitous Nancy Grace: __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 22nd, 2007, 04:16	#38
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,149	Re: Blue Angels crash The pilot was LCDR Kevin Davis, he was the team narrator last year, this was his first year as a demo pilot. __________________ ________\|________ -------(o)- ------° ° °

April 22nd, 2007, 11:13	#39
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Blue Angels crash One of my pals in SLC was a Blue Angel and a Marine as well. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 22nd, 2007, 12:18	#40
Airdale Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirty Jerzey Posts: 2,141	Re: Blue Angels crash Sad. Those Blue Angel pilots are like hero's in my eyes. I've watched them since I was a little kid.

April 22nd, 2007, 12:37	#41
PGT Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: IA Posts: 3,239	Re: Blue Angels crash How does something like this affect their schedule? Do they call it for for a while or the whole season? In no way is this a disrespect to the pilot, I'm just wondering how an accident like this is taken care of. __________________ College student.PPL.Working on IR "I remember a time when sex was safe and flying was dangerous. " - unknown

April 22nd, 2007, 12:56	#42
H46Bubba Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CVG Posts: 4,465	Re: Blue Angels crash When my buddy was a Blues airframe QA, he took me on a tour of their hangar down in Pensacola. They actually have several back up aircraft with duplicate numbers painted on the tail so they can rotate aircraft when phase inspections are due, which time cylces very depending on airframe. Ours was every 100 hrs. So basically there are two #6 and so on. The Blues will cancel some shows until the board of inquiry is convened for the mishap. That will give the pilots and mechs to get back into the groove and get ready to continue on. The #7 pilot is the MC and will most likely be the replacement. There might be a little musical ejection seats to get the show back on the road.

April 22nd, 2007, 13:06	#44
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 19,291 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Blue Angels crash was he too low to eject? __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

April 22nd, 2007, 13:11	#47
TheAlchemist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 682	Re: Blue Angels crash Rest in Peace!

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