international jumpseat

[mrivc211]

I'm going to heathrow on 26th and wanna know if we can jumpseat out there on anyone.

[Seggy]

It stinks, but you should jumpseat in uniform. You will get treated MUCH better, especially in Europe.

You can jumpseat but not in the cockpit overseas. You need a seat in the back. Go to the airline you want to jumpseat on, go up to the airport ticket counter and have them price the taxes to LHR for your city pairs.

Have them print out the taxes, on a paper ticket, and then have them list you.

Get some chocolates for the flight attendants and give them to the lead flight attendant when you board.

Any questions don't hesitate to get in touch with me.

[BobDDuck]

Check and see if you have jumpseat agreements with MaxJet or EOS. You'd have to go into Standsted (sp?) but the trip is well worth it. Seggy's probably right about jump seating in uniform, but I would take the hit on treatment just to not have to wear it. I went over on EOS, did some inter Europe flying on BA (with an ID90 but I still went up and talked to the crew and ended up in first class both times) and then came back on American. I somehow didn't end up paying any taxes coming back on American as the guy just ticketed me with a boarding pass.

One thing to keep in mind is that some companies (American I know, and maybe some others) have a domestic and international jump seat list. Mostly Mexico and Canada count as domestic so if your company only can provide domestic service to their jumpseaters, they only allow you to go domestic. I guess that might be one of the few benefits of being a wholly owned, as we get to travel thanks to "dad's" international coverage.

Recap... Go on EOS or MaxJet if you can.

[Seggy]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Seggy's probably right about jump seating in uniform, but I would take the hit on treatment just to not have to wear it.

Nah, you want to wear it if it is going to determine if you are going to be stuck in coach in a middle seat for an eight hour flight or be in first class. You can change out of it once you get airborne.

Agree with you about EOS and MAXJET. GO ON THEM IF YOU CAN. No need for uniform then!

[Kristie]

You can change out of it once you get airborne.

not always...

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Check and see if you have jumpseat agreements with MaxJet or EOS. You'd have to go into Standsted (sp?) but the trip is well worth it. Seggy's probably right about jump seating in uniform, but I would take the hit on treatment just to not have to wear it. I went over on EOS, did some inter Europe flying on BA (with an ID90 but I still went up and talked to the crew and ended up in first class both times) and then came back on American. I somehow didn't end up paying any taxes coming back on American as the guy just ticketed me with a boarding pass.

One thing to keep in mind is that some companies (American I know, and maybe some others) have a domestic and international jump seat list. Mostly Mexico and Canada count as domestic so if your company only can provide domestic service to their jumpseaters, they only allow you to go domestic. I guess that might be one of the few benefits of being a wholly owned, as we get to travel thanks to "dad's" international coverage.

Recap... Go on EOS or MaxJet if you can.

So we can jumpseat on EOS and MAXJET? Wow. I checked and yes they are in our agreement. How far is standsted from downtown london?

Also, about the uniform thing, were you leaving the US? or coming back? Thanks

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by Seggy

You can jumpseat but not in the cockpit overseas. You need a seat in the back.

As much as the view from up front is different from the back, if you could JS in the cockpit international would you really want too?

Talk about being uncomfortable for 8+ hours...

[Chewie von Nubbins]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

So we can jumpseat on EOS and MAXJET? Wow. I checked and yes they are in our agreement. How far is standsted from downtown london?

Also, about the uniform thing, were you leaving the US? or coming back? Thanks

Stansted is quite a distance from either Gatwick or LHR. I flew there last winter and used both the bus and train. USE THE TRAIN. There is a Stansted express which I believe will put you on Liverpool street in downtown London. The train costs about 22 pounds (44 dollars) for a 30 minute ride. If you get brave and want to try the bus, their traffic into and around London is even worse than trying to get into and out of NYC.

Have a great time!

[OldTownPilot]

Stanstead is just a short hop on the Stanstead Express. Might be a little more than a tube ticket from LHR. When I did it, it was about 40 minutes if I remember correctly. IMO that would be the way to go, arriving refreshed and all. Plus the train ride was a little bit more comfortable than my rides on the tube.

http://www.stanstedexpress.com/

[Seggy]

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

As much as the view from up front is different from the back, if you could JS in the cockpit international would you really want too?

Talk about being uncomfortable for 8+ hours...

Ha, Max if you have a choice of either...

A) Have to sit in the cockpit to get a free ride home

or

B) Stuck in an international city like London were hotels are VERY expensive, spend another day away, and MAYBE miss work...

I'll take the seat up front, if one could get it!

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by Seggy

Ha, Max if you have a choice of either...

A) Have to sit in the cockpit to get a free ride home

or

B) Stuck in an international city like London were hotels are VERY expensive, spend another day away, and MAYBE miss work...

I'll take the seat up front, if one could get it!

Well duh. I was comparing and contrasting having a seat in the back and the option to be up front!

[Seggy]

Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Well duh. I was comparing and contrasting having a seat in the back and the option to be up front!

Ahh ok got read ya wrong.

Take me for example. Do you think I would be happy in the middle seat in the last economy row of a 777 for 8+ hours as we make our way across the pond? Give me the jumpseat ANY time over a window or middle coach seat for long amounts of time!

[H46Bubba]

I hate the sitting b###h! I don't mind window on short hops, but on log flights, no way! I like traveling on widebody a/c with my family, because we can get the whole middle row or the two rows of two.

[OldTownPilot]

Eh, I'm a beech 1900 kinda guy. Give me a window and an aisle all at once.

[Maximillian_Jenius]

Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

Eh, I'm a beech 1900 kinda guy. Give me a window and an aisle all at once.

Eh, I always thought you were a "t.v. jet" kinda guy?

[IcarusGR]

Working for a European Airline, the answer is NO.

Stansted has express buses running to London every 30 minutes, good luck!

[mrivc211]

Originally Posted by IcarusGR

Working for a European Airline, the answer is NO.

Stansted has express buses running to London every 30 minutes, good luck!

Answer to what?

[IcarusGR]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

Answer to what?

You cannot jumpseat internationally at least with a European Carrier. Some airlines might allow you a few minutes in the cockpit enroute but for the duration of the flight especially over the big pond I highly doubt it as it's against the rules.

[E_Dawg]

When I went ORD LHR I asked for OMC but they still charged me... I called and they said it was appropriate because of taxes. It still looks to me like I was charged as if I had listed though... So I guess be ready to pay regardless.

Anyways I was NOT charged coming back. All I paid were taxes. Make sure they print your payment on the ticket stub as this serves as your receipt. I believe it's something like 40 or 50 pounds to leave. With the crappy US dollar that's gonna be between 80 or 100 bucks. All of this is taken care of prior to security, so go to the first ticket counter you see.

Speaking of security be ready to take your shoes off at least 3 times... they have multiple checkpoints over there.

You do not need to ride in uniform but don't expect first class treatment. I was in coach and figured it couldn't hurt to ask for a better seat (since seats were open.) She pretty much rolled her eyes and told her I was lucky to be on the plane... Have a good time out there; I hope your $$ is well spent!

[little_cricket]

UA OMC they shouldn't charge you outbound for sure, maybe taxes inbound (not always). Sounds like they listed you as a regular nonrev... That is a bummer, because once they do that you are screwed and will never get a refund. I always try to bribe the gate agent and double check my DM card. Good luck next time.

[mrivc211]

Its a sticky situation because they want you to list on that non rev number, but if you list and show up and they don't put you as OMC, you get charged. If you show up to the gate and haven't listed, you get the rolling eyes, the huff and puff, and I'm busy right now, go list and come back. So I'm gonna try to jump out there and back from the UK, I'll be going out of ORD to LHR. Theres 3 flights from there.

Also does anyone know if I can jumpseat on virgin atlantic? That ticket is costing me $240 roundtrip to DXB because of LHR departure tax!!!

[IcarusGR]

Originally Posted by mrivc211

Its a sticky situation because they want you to list on that non rev number, but if you list and show up and they don't put you as OMC, you get charged. If you show up to the gate and haven't listed, you get the rolling eyes, the huff and puff, and I'm busy right now, go list and come back. So I'm gonna try to jump out there and back from the UK, I'll be going out of ORD to LHR. Theres 3 flights from there.

Also does anyone know if I can jumpseat on virgin atlantic? That ticket is costing me $240 roundtrip to DXB because of LHR departure tax!!!

LHR is the worst on taxes!!

First class ticket cost me $465 to JFK while from JFK to LHR the first class ticket was $267!!!!

[jdflight]

I jumped United to Paris and back without too much trouble. Be especially early when you come back because they've never heard of SkyWest and it might take a little while. Technically, international jump protocol is to wear a suit, but I just wore standard jumpseat clothing. Ed is right, though, they may try to get you to pay taxes, so just prepare. And you can't sit up front. Gotta have space in the back somewhere (hopefully biz or first).

[FlyChicaga]

I've also jumped from ORD to CDG on United, and they treated me great. The flight attendants even offered me Business Class on the way over. I was trying to get to EWR on a pass, but the weather was poor and flights were delayed. Going to the gate, I explained I had planned on another flight, so I'm not listed, but any chance I would be able to jump on this one? They were very helpful. None of the usual, "go list and come back." Might be a good approach to take.

Good luck, and have fun!!