Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers - Page 2

Louie1975 · April 8th, 2007, 01:29

How does this get in the news???

Doug Taylor · April 8th, 2007, 02:27

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Originally Posted by Louie1975

How does this get in the news???

No idea.

flywithUS · April 8th, 2007, 02:52

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Originally Posted by Louie1975

How does this get in the news???

*shrugs*

Of course, how does THIS get in the news?

http://www.wesh.com/news/11548602/detail.html

Make sure you watch the video to see the "triple teaming" of "tonight's big story."

mojo6911 · April 8th, 2007, 03:18

Think maybe the PA was on, by accident?

Nick · April 8th, 2007, 03:28

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Originally Posted by mojo6911

Think maybe the PA was on, by accident?

I think it would have mentioned that in the article. Hell, that'd probably be on Youtube by now!

I would hope the F/O would slap the mic out of his hand if he made a PA like that anyway.

Doug Taylor · April 8th, 2007, 03:31

Generally, when the other pilot is tlaking on the PA instead ofthe interphone, you usually don't find out until it's too late.

There are people who have said dumb stuff on the PA and those that haven't done it recently.

Guilty!

mtsu_av8er · April 8th, 2007, 09:05

I don't care how much crew scheduling, dispatch, The Vatican, his wife . . . doesn't matter how mad he was. If he was that angry, he should have gone someplace else and had that conversation. He was wrong, period.

P.S. If crew scheduling makes you THAT mad, you can always just quit and let somebody else do the job.

mpenguin1 · April 8th, 2007, 09:14

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Originally Posted by SeanD

This was on the local news here in LAS yesterday. Is this something really necessary to cancel an entire flight? You would think the CA could have gotten on the PA and offered an apology to the pax then went on their way to DTW.

After the Captain cursed out the passenger, I don't think that they had any other choice.

WestIndian425 · April 8th, 2007, 09:29

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

I'm betting he was on the phone with SOMEONE from the company.

"Crew scheduling....can you hold please."
"No...I can't ho.... Dammit."
"Scheduling, this is Bob."
"Hey, this is Captain Miller on...."
"Employee number."
"What? Oh...Uh, N4617. Anyways..."
"Oh, we've got some notifications for you. You're extended tomorrow."
"Extended? WTF? I'm calling because I'm not even going to get enough rest TONIGHT!"
"I show you as getting 8 hours. You flew 6 and a half today, so it's reducable to 8."
"Actually, with the re-routes, ATC delays and storms we flew over 8 1/2, not counting this LAS-DTW I'm about to do."
"Well, you were SCHEDULED 6 1/2, so you're legal."
"I'm gonna call in fatigued tomorrow."
"OOOOH. Well, we'll have to give you a missed trip for that."
"WTH? Who the $&^@ do you think you are. Why don't YOU get up here and fly this (#@&# plane for 8 or 10 $*&^@ hours with a bunch of @#*&s that don't care if you've got 200 hours or 5000 as long as they get to $@^@ Detroit for less than a hundred #*^# dollars!"
"Sir, it's not necessary to...."
"You're (#&$#& right it's not necessary, but I'm $*&# gonna do it!"
FA: "Uh, Captain, you're scaring the passengers."
"Let THEM talk to scheduling. I QUIT!"

Geez, Kell! You're scaring me...I'm still on reserve.

Doug Taylor · April 8th, 2007, 13:03

I wonder what the real story is? Too bad i don't have access to the NWA ALPA website.

mikecweb · April 8th, 2007, 13:34

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Originally Posted by flywithUS

*shrugs*

Of course, how does THIS get in the news?

http://www.wesh.com/news/11548602/detail.html

Make sure you watch the video to see the "triple teaming" of "tonight's big story."

Heather Sorensen(First PAX interviewed) is hot.

Nick · April 8th, 2007, 13:36

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Originally Posted by mikecweb

Heather Sorensen(First PAX interviewed) is hot.

kellwolf · April 8th, 2007, 15:12

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The passenger said the plane was only 50 to 100 feet off the ground when the pilot pulled out of the landing. He said at that point, the pilot came over the intercom and told the passengers that he was sorry for the aborted landing, and he said it was because a Continental Airlines jet had pulled in front of them on the runway.

Yeah, and the pax would know that how? The radar altimeter in their seat? I'm calling BS media on this one. We're at idle and in the flair at 50 feet in the -200.....

Nick · April 8th, 2007, 15:48

Kellwolf, this is the pilot swearing on the cell phone thread.

kellwolf · April 8th, 2007, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Nick

Kellwolf, this is the pilot swearing on the cell phone thread.

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http://www.wesh.com/news/11548602/detail.html

Follow said link from two different posts above in the same thread.....

Nick · April 8th, 2007, 16:03

D'oh! You're right I even watched that video last night.

Good thing the "pilot put the pedal to the metal."

Maximillian_Jenius · April 8th, 2007, 17:32

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Originally Posted by WestIndian425

Geez, Kell! You're scaring me...I'm still on reserve.

Don't worry. You're at a better regional (at the moment)!

aviatorrbt · April 8th, 2007, 19:06

He is going to have a heck of a time with the FAA. If he was seen as unfit to fly because he was so upset the FAA may suspend his licence... or at least make him do some paper work and pass an mental test.

flyover · April 8th, 2007, 19:39

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Generally, when the other pilot is tlaking on the PA instead ofthe interphone, you usually don't find out until it's too late.

There are people who have said dumb stuff on the PA and those that haven't done it recently.

Guilty!

Managed to say "Oh F#*k!" on the PA one time and live to tell about it.

flyover · April 8th, 2007, 19:44

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Originally Posted by mtsu_av8er

I don't care how much crew scheduling, dispatch, The Vatican, his wife . . . doesn't matter how mad he was. If he was that angry, he should have gone someplace else and had that conversation. He was wrong, period.

P.S. If crew scheduling makes you THAT mad, you can always just quit and let somebody else do the job.

Agree.

For a professional aviator anytime you are closer to the airplane than the top of the jetway the cell phone should be stowed. Over time the cell phone has intruded more and more into professional duties so that incidents like this are inevitable. A pilot shouldn't be having a friendly personal conversation in sight or hearing of his passengers, much less an angry one.

murl · April 8th, 2007, 23:50

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Originally Posted by mikecweb

Heather Sorensen(First PAX interviewed) is hot.

Useless without pictures........

Doug Taylor · April 9th, 2007, 00:16

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Originally Posted by flyover

Managed to say "Oh F#*k!" on the PA one time and live to tell about it.

I was doing a PA test on a 727 once and I said, "Luke.... I am your FATHER!" only to realize that it wasn't a first flight of the day, it was a thru flight from MIA with about 20 frightened passengers onboard.

Then I ended up smoking an AC pack about 10 minutes later.

Wasn't my most confident day spent on probation... I still gave myself "all fours"!

mikecweb · April 9th, 2007, 01:14

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Originally Posted by murl

Useless without pictures........

Watch the video from WESH.com posted above.

flyover · April 9th, 2007, 08:22

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I was doing a PA test on a 727 once and I said, "Luke.... I am your FATHER!" only to realize that it wasn't a first flight of the day, it was a thru flight from MIA with about 20 frightened passengers onboard.

Then I ended up smoking an AC pack about 10 minutes later.

Wasn't my most confident day spent on probation... I still gave myself "all fours"!

Proving my point that 99+% of passengers will put up with about anything.

dbrault17 · April 9th, 2007, 09:30

BofA lost $980 from a cash deposit. Not to mention $200 dollars form overdraft fees from it. I hate them.

April 8th, 2007, 01:29	#26
Louie1975 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York Posts: 231	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers How does this get in the news???

April 8th, 2007, 03:18	#29
mojo6911 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: GKY Posts: 1,915	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers Think maybe the PA was on, by accident?

April 8th, 2007, 03:31	#31
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers Generally, when the other pilot is tlaking on the PA instead ofthe interphone, you usually don't find out until it's too late. There are people who have said dumb stuff on the PA and those that haven't done it recently. Guilty! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 8th, 2007, 09:05	#32
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,590	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers I don't care how much crew scheduling, dispatch, The Vatican, his wife . . . doesn't matter how mad he was. If he was that angry, he should have gone someplace else and had that conversation. He was wrong, period. P.S. If crew scheduling makes you THAT mad, you can always just quit and let somebody else do the job. __________________ Ike is one nasty storm, and it's all the fault of management. That's why we need ALPA.

April 8th, 2007, 13:03	#35
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers I wonder what the real story is? Too bad i don't have access to the NWA ALPA website. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

April 8th, 2007, 15:48	#39
Nick Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,525	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers Kellwolf, this is the pilot swearing on the cell phone thread. __________________ Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.

April 8th, 2007, 16:03	#41
Nick Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,525	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers D'oh! You're right I even watched that video last night. Good thing the "pilot put the pedal to the metal." __________________ Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress in this period in history.

April 8th, 2007, 19:06	#43
aviatorrbt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: FL Posts: 433	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers He is going to have a heck of a time with the FAA. If he was seen as unfit to fly because he was so upset the FAA may suspend his licence... or at least make him do some paper work and pass an mental test.

April 9th, 2007, 09:30	#50
dbrault17 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 272	Re: Flight canceled after pilot curses at passengers BofA lost $980 from a cash deposit. Not to mention $200 dollars form overdraft fees from it. I hate them.

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