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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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| Interesting video of NTSB accident recreation. Last edited by Doug Taylor; February 18th, 2007 at 13:16. Reason: Fixed the link |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: De Land, FL,
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| When did this happen? |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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| Old Skool | Mid to late 90s methinks. CFIT big timeeeee
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| Old Skool | At least it wasn't as bad as the CRM video we watch! |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arizona
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arizona
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| A little more information NTSB conclusions: Contributing to the accident were the captain's fatigue, Korean Air's lack of flight crew training, as well as the intentional inhibition of the Guam ILS. The crew had been using an outdated flight map, which stated that the Minimum Safe Altitude for a landing plane was 1770 feet (540 m) as opposed to 2150 feet (656 m). Flight 801 had been maintaining 1870 feet (570 m) when it was waiting to land. On August 6, 2000, the third anniversary of the crash, a black marble obelisk was unveiled on the crash site as a memorial to the victims. After the accident, the flight number for the route was changed to Flight 805.
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| Old Skool | I know someone who trained Korean students, and said he'd never fly Korean Air, as a result! |
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| As TORIA mentioned in her response....it was a langing into Agana Guam. The area around the airport is hilly and the airport is on a hill. Happened shortly after I left Guam, but heard from folks who helped in clean up efforts---was a mess. We studied this accident in one of my safety courses and how CRM is different between U.S. carriers and foreign carriers. I have flown Korean Airlines back and forth to Korea on many occasions and have no problem flying them. I'm sure some of their training has changed a bit since this accident. |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Fort Lauderdale
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| I taught Korean students at Pan Am Flight Academy in Fort Pierce and they were 1000% better than the Chinese students I taught. It's the Chinese airlines I'm staying away from. The Koreans are like robots...you tell em' what to do and how to do it and they repeat it over and over and over.. perfect for the airline flight deck. |
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| Old Skool | Korean's definitely cleaned up their act. Back in the bad old days, they had serious issues. There was a KAL safety audit that was floating around the internets but it doesn't seem to be around anymore. If that was accurate, there were some serious problems at KAL. The best I have for this report is this link. http://www.findarticles.com/p/articl...13/ai_54489400 The company's safety record took an added bruising when a 20-page internal audit report was leaked recently. The damning document was posted on the Internet by Alex Paterson, a former airline pilot living in Australia, "in the interests of airline safety," he declared. While KAL officials concede the report is authentic, they have panned it as a gross exaggeration of the carrier's safety practices. But seriously, folks, how can you expect them to do well? I mean, they can't see out of their slanty little eyes and they can't even pronounce fly and airplane right. "Today, I fry airprane." |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA
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| Junior Member | What is the video about that you watch?
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