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| Old Skool |
Thoughts from the two pilot groups?
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I heard this rumor a week ago and laughed my ass off. Then I got a PM from a Colganite last night asking WTF was up. Now I know. Unfortunately, I'm getting set to get whipsawed by my company now. My bet is 9E management will try to whipsaw us against the Colgan folks. Currently, our scope says any flying done by Pinnacle Airlines, Inc has to be done by Pinnacle airlines pilots on the seniority list. Pinnacle Airlines CORP is who bought Colgan. Here comes the GoJet/Freedom/Big Sky again......
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Excuse me while I finish picking up my jaw off the ground.
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On the 9E side, we have no clue what's going on. We're expecting the worst in the form of whipsawing at this point.... No word on if they're gonna be kept two separate, merge the seniority list or whatever. Management hasn't even been interested in the negotiating table on the current contract in about 3 months. First it was the ASA with NWA, and now this. I'd heard the rumor last week and thought it was funny as hell. Now, it's not so funny. I never thought the Colgan family would sell the airline.
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Crusty Clown Voice....Arrrrggghhhhhhh oiiiii.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY
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Chuck Colgan? Why? Securing your financial future?
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Argh. Just went back and checked the new ASA with NWA. It's between NWA and Pinnacle Airline CORP. We all know what that means......
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Well.....####.....
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| Old Skool |
Seggy, you might get to move up to the -900 yet This won't be good for rates or how you move up in the company.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY
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I'm sure there will be some ship jumpers.
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| Old Skool | Right now, they're gonna keep the two separate, which means I should stay off reserve and Seggy's still on track to upgrade soon. The thing I'm most worried about is 9E's management suddenly coming to the table with "You'll take this deal, or Colgan's getting your planes."
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I have to admit.. that is kinda surprising!!
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Wow... there was one I didn't see coming. Let's hope that they keep you seperate. Whipsaw is never a good thing. |
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Your point JEP?
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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY
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I thought you were challenging what Kellwolf said by using the highlighted information. Sorry.
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Moderator powers activate..... form of: merging the two near identical threads....
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i see the whipsaw coming for pcl pilots. that sucks, you guys are way overdue. I see colgan pilots getting casted as scabs later on for taking planes or flying from pcl since we are non union. whats the number to truck masters again?
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Yeah, I'm not following either. Don't see anything about merging seniority lists. Keep in mind the holding company is the one that bought Colgan. I'm referring to keeping Pinnacle Airlines, Inc and Colgan seperate. Although, I did read lower that they are going to keep the two separate. But, as stated earlier, that's the best way to whipsaw the two against each other. Merger the lists, and they lose that.
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| Old Skool | Sadly, there's truth to that. I've already talked to Seggy today, and we're both beside ourselves. We don't wanna get whipsawed in the middle of negotiations and they don't wanna get painted as the bad guys. Truthfully, MANAGEMENT is the bad guy if that happens, not the pilots. I don't see the Colgan guys taking a pay cut. It's already low enough over there. I see management using that fact to keep us from getting the pay raises we need and deserve over here.
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OMG I just lost $50 on this Rumot. Someone mentioned it to me the other day and I said no way not gonna happen. Gees! Best of luck guys and remember that at the end of the day we are all on the same team. It's management that sucks. |
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