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Old December 21st, 2006, 00:28   #1
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How are the ground controllers coping with the new right turn only policy at UPS?
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Old December 21st, 2006, 00:32   #2
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Was that for the airplanes? I thought it referred to the delivery drivers.



...........or was the sarcasm so obivous, I missed it....?
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Probably better than the UPS employees families when they still do it on their days off!
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You wouldn't think of something as benign as avoiding a left-hand turn could conserve fuel, but Atlanta-based United Parcel Service (UPS) swears by it. In fact, the parcel carrier has technology in its systems that help map this out routes that minimize the number of left turns the driver has to make. According to spokesperson Steve Holmes, avoiding left turns at intersections reduces idling which in turn lowers fuel consumption. "It seems small, but when you multiply it across 88,0000 vehicles making nearly 15 million deliveries every day during the course of a year, it adds up."

And at stop lights, making a right turn at an intersection tends to be faster than at a left turn, since you have only to wait for an opportunity to turn in one lane of traffic. You also have the option of "right on red" in most jurisdictions, unless otherwise indicated by traffic signs. "So even if you didn't save fuel, you're going to move more quickly through a route."

"Because 98% of our packages are processed electronically by shippers, we know what's entering our system each day, what's still in our system each day, when each package is going to arrive at a center, when the package is scheduled for delivery -- including time of day -- and where it will be delivered," Holmes says.

What's more, Holmes says, UPS drivers are trained to always turn off their package cars when they stop for a delivery, never idling at the curb or in a driveway. "Even if the driver is out of the truck for a few seconds, the vehicle is always turned off."
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It takes 3 rights turns to equal one left....what are they thinking? This all sounds fine, but....its just crazy...
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It takes 3 rights turns to equal one left....what are they thinking? This all sounds fine, but....its just crazy...
Yes, but think about the 'red light' situation. For the most part you cannot make a left turn on red. While you can on the right. Less Idling time and with the amount of trucks UPS has that adds up very fast.......
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It is also a case that UPS does a lot of circling around a neighborhood, so although you might think it is not very smart - when they think of the roads they cover the number of rights is equal to the number of lefts, rather then having to do 3 times as many.

I also think another motivation is less accidents - turning left is riskier.
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"but Atlanta-based United Parcel Service (UPS) swears by it"

HAHAHA....

So typical UPS.

They want me to taxi on one engine, too. Guess I should be shuttin' down the right one....
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if you're gunna be out of the truck for "a few seconds" wouldn't it waste more gas to restart that big brown Ugly Piece of Something?
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if you're gunna be out of the truck for "a few seconds" wouldn't it waste more gas to restart that big brown Ugly Piece of Something?
actualyl yes...

a car wastes more gas starting up then you might think,... especially when compared to ilding for 'few seconds'
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It sounds like they're using their software to avoid right turns where possible, but not banning them completely. I worked as a temp driver for FedEx Home Delivery a couple winters ago and they had software map out your routes. It wasn't perfect, but gererally ok. For example, I'd find more efficient ways to deliver in quiet neighborhoods where stopping and crossing the street to a house on the left side was no problem, although the software was set up to avoid that.
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How are the ground controllers coping with the new right turn only policy at UPS?
ATC: UPS 1234, Hold Southeast of the Maverick VOR on the 120 radial, left turns, EFC 1200.

UPS 1234: Uhhhh.... unable.
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