Far/aim 2007

waverebel · October 24th, 2006, 13:22

Does anyone know when the 2007 FAR/AIM will become effective, or is it already? I have a CFI ride next month and just want to make sure I have the current edition, one less thing to the examiner to pick on.

I am also pretty sure that the new CFI PTS is coming up nov 1st.

Minnesota_Flyer · October 24th, 2006, 13:23

It's out.

JaceTheAce · October 24th, 2006, 13:26

Doesn't it not become effective until January 1, 2007 @ 12am?

waverebel · October 24th, 2006, 13:27

Not sure, thats what I was wondering

Minnesota_Flyer · October 24th, 2006, 13:31

The FAR are effective now (or were as of 8-3-2006).
AIM is current through March 14, 2007.

Timbuff10 · October 24th, 2006, 15:48

Yeah there is a date in the first couple of pages there that says when it becomes effective. When I was in CFI school it was during Dec of 2003. The instructor said my 2003 far/aim was outdated and that I should be using the 2004. He then showed me where it says it expires.

Just because it says the year across the top cover doesn't mean that is when it is good for.

Minnesota_Flyer · October 24th, 2006, 16:05

I'm not seeing any effective date on the ASA FAR/AIM.

The inside cover page just says "This publication contains current regulations as of August 3, 2006. The Aeronautical Information Manual is current through March 14, 2007."

I've got a ride coming up, so if the 2007 FAR/AIM is legit yet, that would be good to know.

Bandit_Driver · October 24th, 2006, 22:31

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Originally Posted by Timbuff10

Just because it says the year across the top cover doesn't mean that is when it is good for.

Yeah, that would make too much sense for government publication.

Timbuff10 · October 24th, 2006, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minnesota_Flyer

I've got a ride coming up, so if the 2007 FAR/AIM is legit yet, that would be good to know.

Yeah, when one comes out you can flip to page ii and it says when the regs are current. If you walk in there with the one that has 2007 written on the cover then you should be good.

Good luck on your ride... Dominate that thing!

MidlifeFlyer · October 25th, 2006, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

Yeah, that would make too much sense for government publication.

The FAR/AIM you buy from an aviation book publisher is =not= a government publication. It's a privately-published reprint of a government publication (AIM) and part of a series of continually amended government regulations (FAR).

The original government sources are never out of date. The privately-published collection might be.

Don't worry about whether the book is out =before= the FAR or the AIM become effective. Won't happen. On the other hand, parts of the book might be obsolete before it's even available for purchase (more likely with the FAR which changes when the FAA makes or modifies regs than with the AIM, which is actually on a twice-a-year publication schedule)

EatSleepFly · October 25th, 2006, 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minnesota_Flyer

I've got a ride coming up, so if the 2007 FAR/AIM is legit yet, that would be good to know.

I just took an ATP/type oral and brought a 2006 FAR/AIM. Neither the check airman or the POI that was observing it said a word about it. It's still 2006 as far as I'm concerned. Good luck!

Timbuff10 · October 25th, 2006, 01:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by EatSleepFly

I just took an ATP/type oral and brought a 2006 FAR/AIM. Neither the check airman or the POI that was observing it said a word about it. It's still 2006 as far as I'm concerned. Good luck!

I think that is the thing though, when you look at the actual regs put out by the FAA, they aren't listed as "the 2006 regs" they are just "the regs".

It is when ASA, and Jeppesen gets ahold of them and publishes them in their book that they slap that year on the cover.

flyguy · October 25th, 2006, 02:27

If your ride is with a DPE, I wouldn't even worry about it. They proably will be fine with either. If it is with the FSDO, they may be a bit more anal. The 2007 edition is the one that is current now.

MidlifeFlyer · October 25th, 2006, 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbuff10

It is when ASA, and Jeppesen gets ahold of them and publishes them in their book that they slap that year on the cover.

Which makes sense, as does the blurb some have inside that tells the date the information is based on. That way you know how out-of-date it might be.

BTW, most of the publishers will provide periodic updates online to take interim changes into account.

flyguy · October 25th, 2006, 18:21

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Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer

BTW, most of the publishers will provide periodic updates online to take interim changes into account.

Which you should consider downloading before going to a ride with the FSDO.

October 24th, 2006, 13:22	#1
waverebel Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 62	Far/aim 2007 Does anyone know when the 2007 FAR/AIM will become effective, or is it already? I have a CFI ride next month and just want to make sure I have the current edition, one less thing to the examiner to pick on. I am also pretty sure that the new CFI PTS is coming up nov 1st.

October 24th, 2006, 13:23	#2
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,895	Re: Far/aim 2007 It's out. __________________ I'm free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally. Commercial Pilot - ASEL, Instrument 290 TT

October 24th, 2006, 13:26	#3
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 7,303	Re: Far/aim 2007 Doesn't it not become effective until January 1, 2007 @ 12am? __________________ Dash 8 FO "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan."

October 24th, 2006, 13:27	#4
waverebel Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Houston Posts: 62	Re: Far/aim 2007 Not sure, thats what I was wondering

October 24th, 2006, 13:31	#5
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,895	Re: Far/aim 2007 The FAR are effective now (or were as of 8-3-2006). AIM is current through March 14, 2007. __________________ I'm free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally. Commercial Pilot - ASEL, Instrument 290 TT

October 24th, 2006, 15:48	#6
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,234	Re: Far/aim 2007 Yeah there is a date in the first couple of pages there that says when it becomes effective. When I was in CFI school it was during Dec of 2003. The instructor said my 2003 far/aim was outdated and that I should be using the 2004. He then showed me where it says it expires. Just because it says the year across the top cover doesn't mean that is when it is good for. __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

October 24th, 2006, 16:05	#7
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,895	Re: Far/aim 2007 I'm not seeing any effective date on the ASA FAR/AIM. The inside cover page just says "This publication contains current regulations as of August 3, 2006. The Aeronautical Information Manual is current through March 14, 2007." I've got a ride coming up, so if the 2007 FAR/AIM is legit yet, that would be good to know. __________________ I'm free of all prejudices. I hate everyone equally. Commercial Pilot - ASEL, Instrument 290 TT

October 25th, 2006, 02:27	#13
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: Far/aim 2007 If your ride is with a DPE, I wouldn't even worry about it. They proably will be fine with either. If it is with the FSDO, they may be a bit more anal. The 2007 edition is the one that is current now. __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

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