How do you address a TRSA?

slushie · October 19th, 2006, 02:02

"Palm Springs TurrSuh,...."
"Palm Springs Approach,..."
"Whaaaadup!!!!!?!"

surreal1221 · October 19th, 2006, 02:32

Approach will work.

Goldmember · October 19th, 2006, 03:36

Treat it like a Class C, but you do have the ability to decline their radar service if you wish. It sounds silly to do so but if you know a lot about the TRSA your'e about to fly to and approach constantly sends you way out before setting you up for landing, you might consider it.

Cheers.

slushie · October 19th, 2006, 03:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember

Treat it like a Class C

So no permission needed, just give a heads up?
and do you need to wait for them to acknowledge you by reg #?

mtsu_av8er · October 19th, 2006, 03:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by slushie

So no permission needed, just give a heads up?
and do you need to wait for them to acknowledge you by reg #?

Nope! You don't even have to call them at all! Think of it as an optional facility.

CaptainChris87 · October 19th, 2006, 04:03

When I was flying up at UND, Fargo which was 75 or so NM away from us had a TRSA. You do not have to call approach up however if you want their radar services which is helpful since a lot of "Flying SIoux's" are around that area as well as other jets. Over Hillsborough 10NM away from them was where we would call them, treat it like a Class C you need same VIS requirments, two way radio, mode C transponder, and "Fargo Approach, Sioux 64 with lima is with you over Hillsborough, at 3,500, rquesting stop and go to Fargo" should suffice

mtsu_av8er · October 19th, 2006, 04:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainChris87

When I was flying up at UND, Fargo which was 75 or so NM away from us had a TRSA. You do not have to call approach up however if you want their radar services which is helpful since a lot of "Flying SIoux's" are around that area as well as other jets. Over Hillsborough 10NM away from them was where we would call them, treat it like a Class C you need same VIS requirments, two way radio, mode C transponder, and "Fargo Approach, Sioux 64 with lima is with you over Hillsborough, at 3,500, rquesting stop and go to Fargo" should suffice

Whoa . . . slow down.

Huh?

I'm lost . . .

Was that a sentence or a paragraph?

averyrm · October 19th, 2006, 04:15

I'd say drunkeze.

roundout · October 19th, 2006, 08:39

i just make sure to lead off by keying up without listening to see if anyone else is in the midst of communication, saying "AAANNND" then mumbling something unintelligible.... just like any other ATC facility i call.

vheissu · October 19th, 2006, 15:44

I actually fly out of Palm Springs. You just call up approach or departure and all is good.

slushie · October 19th, 2006, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by vheissu

I actually fly out of Palm Springs. You just call up approach or departure and all is good.

Cool.
Vheissu is an awesome album by the way...

DE727UPS · October 19th, 2006, 19:10

It's class C, now, not TRSA. Right? You guys don't mess with me, now. This flying stuff is confusing enough as it is.

Ian J · October 19th, 2006, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

It's class C, now, not TRSA. Right? You guys don't mess with me, now. This flying stuff is confusing enough as it is.

No, a TRSA typically surrounds a Class D airport. It's like class C, but optional.

TaterSalad · October 19th, 2006, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

It's class C, now, not TRSA. Right? You guys don't mess with me, now. This flying stuff is confusing enough as it is.

There are still some TRSA's leftover, from the "old days".

SteveC · October 19th, 2006, 19:26

Still some TRSA's out there.

AOPA Airspace info.

DE727UPS · October 19th, 2006, 19:37

Well dang. I thought all the TRSA's were now class C. Thanks for the clarification.

MarkE · October 19th, 2006, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

Still some TRSA's out there.

AOPA Airspace info.

I think the only TRSA in California is around PSP. Would be curious where some others are.

SteveC · October 19th, 2006, 20:05

Kalamazoo, Michigan AZO

Fly4Pay · October 19th, 2006, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

Well dang. I thought all the TRSA's were now class C. Thanks for the clarification.

I think it was the ARSAs that became class C...

MikeD · October 19th, 2006, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly4Pay

I think it was the ARSAs that became class C...

Yup,

PCAs became Class A
TCAs became Class B
ARSAs became Class C
ATAs became Class D
TRSAs never got a classification.

TRSA is an ARSA where participation isn't mandatory.

jtrain609 · October 19th, 2006, 21:47

If you're MikeD, you address the TRSA however you want. If they've got problems with that, then threaten to turn off your transponder and cancel your IFR clearance.

pwnt

TXaviator · October 19th, 2006, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtrain609

If you're MikeD, you address the TRSA however you want. If they've got problems with that, then threaten to turn off your transponder and cancel your IFR clearance.

pwnt

hah i ####in LOL'ed

tonyw · October 20th, 2006, 01:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

It's class C, now, not TRSA. Right? You guys don't mess with me, now. This flying stuff is confusing enough as it is.

Harrisburg has a TRSA. On my private checkride, when the examiner pointed to it and said tell me what this is and I answered correctly, the look on his face made me realize that it was going to go pretty smoothly.

dingo222 · October 20th, 2006, 02:05

ILM is a trsa is i remember correctly. I always called them PSP approach out there.

mtsu_av8er · October 20th, 2006, 02:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

It's class C, now, not TRSA. Right? You guys don't mess with me, now.

October 19th, 2006, 02:02	#1
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October 19th, 2006, 03:36	#3
Goldmember Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Louisville, KY. Posts: 154	Re: How do you address a TRSA? Treat it like a Class C, but you do have the ability to decline their radar service if you wish. It sounds silly to do so but if you know a lot about the TRSA your'e about to fly to and approach constantly sends you way out before setting you up for landing, you might consider it. Cheers. __________________ What are we going to do tonight brain? --Same thing we do every night Pinky, try and take over the world.

October 19th, 2006, 04:03	#6
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Location: O.C. Posts: 1,784	Re: How do you address a TRSA? When I was flying up at UND, Fargo which was 75 or so NM away from us had a TRSA. You do not have to call approach up however if you want their radar services which is helpful since a lot of "Flying SIoux's" are around that area as well as other jets. Over Hillsborough 10NM away from them was where we would call them, treat it like a Class C you need same VIS requirments, two way radio, mode C transponder, and "Fargo Approach, Sioux 64 with lima is with you over Hillsborough, at 3,500, rquesting stop and go to Fargo" should suffice __________________ -CSUF School of Business and Economics Steven G. Mihaylo Hall.

October 19th, 2006, 04:15	#8
averyrm Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: LCK Posts: 1,654	Re: How do you address a TRSA? I'd say drunkeze. __________________ <-- That guy with Belushi as his avitar

October 19th, 2006, 08:39	#9
roundout Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: kads Posts: 842	Re: How do you address a TRSA? i just make sure to lead off by keying up without listening to see if anyone else is in the midst of communication, saying "AAANNND" then mumbling something unintelligible.... just like any other ATC facility i call. __________________ http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm this reference tool contains examples of the proper spellings and usages of the following words: your, you're, there, their, they're, than, then

October 19th, 2006, 15:44	#10
vheissu Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 281	Re: How do you address a TRSA? I actually fly out of Palm Springs. You just call up approach or departure and all is good.

October 19th, 2006, 19:10	#12
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,577	Re: How do you address a TRSA? It's class C, now, not TRSA. Right? You guys don't mess with me, now. This flying stuff is confusing enough as it is.

October 19th, 2006, 19:26	#15
SteveC Modulator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,788	Re: How do you address a TRSA? Still some TRSA's out there. AOPA Airspace info. __________________ . If life gives you lemons, throw 'em into a quart of vodka. ~Red Green

October 19th, 2006, 19:37	#16
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,577	Re: How do you address a TRSA? Well dang. I thought all the TRSA's were now class C. Thanks for the clarification.

October 19th, 2006, 20:05	#18
SteveC Modulator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,788	Re: How do you address a TRSA? Kalamazoo, Michigan AZO __________________ . If life gives you lemons, throw 'em into a quart of vodka. ~Red Green

October 19th, 2006, 21:47	#21
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Re: How do you address a TRSA? If you're MikeD, you address the TRSA however you want. If they've got problems with that, then threaten to turn off your transponder and cancel your IFR clearance. pwnt

October 20th, 2006, 02:05	#24
dingo222 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The 'ville Posts: 479	Re: How do you address a TRSA? ILM is a trsa is i remember correctly. I always called them PSP approach out there. __________________ It's ok to cry; this is going to hurt

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