"Flight Express 312 . . .

mtsu_av8er · October 17th, 2006, 02:39

. . . Winds are 150 at 24, Gusting to 47. Multiple aircraft reporting continuous moderate turbulence all the way down the final. An MD-80 reported windshear of +/-20 knots to touchdown, and company traffic ahead of you reported +/-30 knots. Runway 20L, cleared to land."

Ummm, ok!

WestIndian425 · October 17th, 2006, 03:56

Wow!!! Where was this?!

surreal1221 · October 17th, 2006, 04:41

Very nice. The Gulf and midwest look like a mess.

IFly85 · October 17th, 2006, 05:23

Yeah, thats why I didn't fly with my student tonight lol

JEP · October 17th, 2006, 07:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestIndian425

Wow!!! Where was this?!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FLX312

EDUC8-or · October 17th, 2006, 10:45

We got pounded last night as well.

Speaking of Flight Express, thanks a TON for your gouge you posted. I never PM'd you for the thanks, my buddy got hired and said your info was a great help. He's down at CRG.

mikecweb · October 17th, 2006, 11:37

Yeah I was overhead when you were getting vectored for that approach. Had a 30degree crab at 8k the whole way back from Atlanta to St. louis. 5.3 block 5.0 actual.

BobDDuck · October 17th, 2006, 14:17

BNA was still a mess this morning. Gusting to 35 but down the runway. We picked up a bunch of ice too. Charlotte wasn't much better either. Just one of those days. Went into Huntsville yesterday and had 75 knots of wind at 1500 feet down the ILS.

TXaviator · October 17th, 2006, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

75 knots of wind at 1500 feet down the ILS.

holy piss

FlyChicaga · October 17th, 2006, 16:34

Have fun bumping around out there! We got canceled tonight, so it's another night lounging around the hotel studying for me.

Flysher · October 17th, 2006, 17:03

winds were close to 100 knots this morning in columbus at 6000 feet. Friend of mine in the Navajo saw 300 knots in the descent.

Doug Taylor · October 17th, 2006, 17:07

I've been primarily doing west coast flying.

Flew into CLE today and what a freeking mess. No wonder the captain offered me the leg. Windy, rainy, turbulent, cloudy, cold (well, at least for this AZ boy)...Ick!

BTW, I do not heart CLE ground control.

BobDDuck · October 17th, 2006, 17:09

It's not so bad with the center runway closed but it was a cluster with those hold short lines when they were using all three 6s.

Doug Taylor · October 17th, 2006, 17:29

Here were my taxi instructions off of 24L:

"Taxi on lima short of sierra"

(ack)

"Wait...uhh, hold right there"

(ack)

"The continental on 24L might make Lima 1"

(ack)

"Ok, Airliner 450 continue on Lima, hold short sierra, he's not goign to make it"

(ack)

"Ok, hold for the Eagle RJ departing the ramp"

"Where is eagle?" (me)

"Oh, ok, he's on Whiskey, hold for the express RJ, the Beech Airliner will wait for you at Sierra then to the gate"

(ack)

(the 1900 continues onto the taxiway)

"Airliner 450, you moving?"

"Nope, the 1900 kept taxiing so we waited"

Aye.... suck suck suck.

falconvalley · October 17th, 2006, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfleisher

winds were close to 100 knots this morning in columbus at 6000 feet. Friend of mine in the Navajo saw 300 knots in the descent.

LOL

falconvalley · October 17th, 2006, 20:39

One of my first charters as a freight pilot took me to Dulles on a nice windy, early morning. I hit turbulence so rough it knocked the controls out of my hands at one point. Then, when I was on final the Airbus behind me was asking for missed approach instructions in-case they couldn't make the runway.

I fought it all the way down. It was the first time in a long time that I was planning on going around, but hoping to happen to be able to make a safe touchdown.

ComplexHiAv8r · October 17th, 2006, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Flew into CLE today

I better not hear you spent time in CLE and didn't call!

alphaone · October 17th, 2006, 23:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Here were my taxi instructions off of 24L:

"Taxi on lima short of sierra"

(ack)

"Wait...uhh, hold right there"

(ack)

"The continental on 24L might make Lima 1"

(ack)

"Ok, Airliner 450 continue on Lima, hold short sierra, he's not goign to make it"

(ack)

"Ok, hold for the Eagle RJ departing the ramp"

"Where is eagle?" (me)

"Oh, ok, he's on Whiskey, hold for the express RJ, the Beech Airliner will wait for you at Sierra then to the gate"

(ack)

(the 1900 continues onto the taxiway)

"Airliner 450, you moving?"

"Nope, the 1900 kept taxiing so we waited"

Aye.... suck suck suck.

You still in CLE? If you got some free time I'll buy you some coffee.

Alchemy · October 18th, 2006, 00:27

Ground is the least of CLE's problems hehehe....for a while I thought "maintain one-six-zero knots" was synonomous with "hello" on CLE approach.

Doug Taylor · October 18th, 2006, 00:37

Oh hell, SLC can be worse sometimes.

They'll ask for 210 knots, 30 miles out, no one's on TCAS, you'll land and taxi into the gate and the place is a ghost town.

EDUC8-or · October 18th, 2006, 09:59

CLE ATC sux big time. The other day they asked us to maintain 210 knots, and when we started slowing about 5 miles out they told us we were supposed to keep our speed up and we had messed up their spacing. About every other time I get some weird instruction from them.

sorrygottarunway · October 18th, 2006, 10:02

I thought ours would look bad... but it just looked like another normal day.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CJC5217

ERfly · October 18th, 2006, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Here were my taxi instructions off of 24L:

"Taxi on lima short of sierra"

(ack)

"Wait...uhh, hold right there"

(ack)

"The continental on 24L might make Lima 1"

(ack)

"Ok, Airliner 450 continue on Lima, hold short sierra, he's not goign to make it"

(ack)

"Ok, hold for the Eagle RJ departing the ramp"

"Where is eagle?" (me)

"Oh, ok, he's on Whiskey, hold for the express RJ, the Beech Airliner will wait for you at Sierra then to the gate"

(ack)

(the 1900 continues onto the taxiway)

"Airliner 450, you moving?"

"Nope, the 1900 kept taxiing so we waited"

Aye.... suck suck suck.

Welcome to The Mistake On The Lake, Doug. At least you guys are on the other side of B. They just re-numbered all our spots on the CAL ramp and it's the biggest cluster.

Ramp: "Jetlink XXXX taxi to the new Spot 5."

Random Jetlink: "Um...ok, Spot 5...Spot 5...and that's..."

Ramp: "Around the terminal where the old Spot 3 was."

To the Captain: "Just taxi slow and I'll look for it."

That place is just a big mess. I can't wait until the new de-ice pad to open. It'll be a mess.

BobDDuck · October 18th, 2006, 19:03

Speaking of ATC issues (random thread creep) we are dropping the first number of the flight number starting November 4th. Hence JIA2345 will become JIA345. Maybe this will stop the mix up as it gets old being called Jetlink, JetBlue and even Jazz. It's going to make for an interesting week though. I just listen for the "bluestreak twenty...." We won't always have the "twenty" any more. Grrr.

FlyChicaga · October 18th, 2006, 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

BTW, I do not heart CLE ground control.

I do not heart anything CLE controlled.

October 17th, 2006, 02:39	#1
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,403	"Flight Express 312 . . . . . . Winds are 150 at 24, Gusting to 47. Multiple aircraft reporting continuous moderate turbulence all the way down the final. An MD-80 reported windshear of +/-20 knots to touchdown, and company traffic ahead of you reported +/-30 knots. Runway 20L, cleared to land." Ummm, ok! __________________ ------- "Sadness bears no remedy for the problems in your life."

October 17th, 2006, 03:56	#2
WestIndian425 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KEWR (by way of Brooklyn, NY) Posts: 916	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Wow!!! Where was this?! __________________ God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground.

October 17th, 2006, 04:41	#3
surreal1221 Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Alpha Tango Lima Posts: 8,655	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Very nice. The Gulf and midwest look like a mess. __________________ AGI.MEI.CFI.CFII.FO.CRJ2 \| Josh \|The TRoP \| Ramble On \|ALPA \| Your DD-214 is where?

October 17th, 2006, 05:23	#4
IFly85 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Live in MEM but commute to RDU Posts: 462	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Yeah, thats why I didn't fly with my student tonight lol

October 17th, 2006, 10:45	#6
EDUC8-or Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NC Posts: 2,146	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . We got pounded last night as well. Speaking of Flight Express, thanks a TON for your gouge you posted. I never PM'd you for the thanks, my buddy got hired and said your info was a great help. He's down at CRG.

October 17th, 2006, 14:17	#8
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,340	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . BNA was still a mess this morning. Gusting to 35 but down the runway. We picked up a bunch of ice too. Charlotte wasn't much better either. Just one of those days. Went into Huntsville yesterday and had 75 knots of wind at 1500 feet down the ILS. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

October 17th, 2006, 16:34	#10
FlyChicaga Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,750	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Have fun bumping around out there! We got canceled tonight, so it's another night lounging around the hotel studying for me. __________________ Tough times do not last. Tough people do.

October 17th, 2006, 17:03	#11
Flysher Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: LCK Posts: 444	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . winds were close to 100 knots this morning in columbus at 6000 feet. Friend of mine in the Navajo saw 300 knots in the descent.

October 17th, 2006, 17:07	#12
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,825 Blog Entries: 1	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . I've been primarily doing west coast flying. Flew into CLE today and what a freeking mess. No wonder the captain offered me the leg. Windy, rainy, turbulent, cloudy, cold (well, at least for this AZ boy)...Ick! BTW, I do not heart CLE ground control. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

October 17th, 2006, 17:09	#13
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,340	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . It's not so bad with the center runway closed but it was a cluster with those hold short lines when they were using all three 6s. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

October 17th, 2006, 17:29	#14
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,825 Blog Entries: 1	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Here were my taxi instructions off of 24L: "Taxi on lima short of sierra" (ack) "Wait...uhh, hold right there" (ack) "The continental on 24L might make Lima 1" (ack) "Ok, Airliner 450 continue on Lima, hold short sierra, he's not goign to make it" (ack) "Ok, hold for the Eagle RJ departing the ramp" "Where is eagle?" (me) "Oh, ok, he's on Whiskey, hold for the express RJ, the Beech Airliner will wait for you at Sierra then to the gate" (ack) (the 1900 continues onto the taxiway) "Airliner 450, you moving?" "Nope, the 1900 kept taxiing so we waited" Aye.... suck suck suck. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

October 17th, 2006, 20:39	#16
falconvalley Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KMKE Posts: 1,924	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . One of my first charters as a freight pilot took me to Dulles on a nice windy, early morning. I hit turbulence so rough it knocked the controls out of my hands at one point. Then, when I was on final the Airbus behind me was asking for missed approach instructions in-case they couldn't make the runway. I fought it all the way down. It was the first time in a long time that I was planning on going around, but hoping to happen to be able to make a safe touchdown. __________________ British Airways flight asks for push back clearance from terminal. Control Tower replies: "And where is the world's most experienced airline going today without filing a flight plan?"

October 18th, 2006, 00:27	#19
Alchemy Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 1,722	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Ground is the least of CLE's problems hehehe....for a while I thought "maintain one-six-zero knots" was synonomous with "hello" on CLE approach.

October 18th, 2006, 00:37	#20
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 39,825 Blog Entries: 1	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Oh hell, SLC can be worse sometimes. They'll ask for 210 knots, 30 miles out, no one's on TCAS, you'll land and taxi into the gate and the place is a ghost town. __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

October 18th, 2006, 09:59	#21
EDUC8-or Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: NC Posts: 2,146	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . CLE ATC sux big time. The other day they asked us to maintain 210 knots, and when we started slowing about 5 miles out they told us we were supposed to keep our speed up and we had messed up their spacing. About every other time I get some weird instruction from them.

October 18th, 2006, 10:02	#22
sorrygottarunway Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DXR, Connecticut Posts: 1,154	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . I thought ours would look bad... but it just looked like another normal day. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CJC5217 __________________ CFI/CFII/MEI ATP, SF340

October 18th, 2006, 19:03	#24
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,340	Re: "Flight Express 312 . . . Speaking of ATC issues (random thread creep) we are dropping the first number of the flight number starting November 4th. Hence JIA2345 will become JIA345. Maybe this will stop the mix up as it gets old being called Jetlink, JetBlue and even Jazz. It's going to make for an interesting week though. I just listen for the "bluestreak twenty...." We won't always have the "twenty" any more. Grrr. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

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