Illustration of Brazilian mid-air

[Mahesh]

Simulated probable situation presented by Brazilians engineers, based on initial data. Not conclusive or official positions are shown.

http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/0,,IIF661-5598,00.html

Click on the "Clique para iniciar" box ... what means "Click to Start" ... the presentation is in Portuguese.

This was sent to someone at my company by a LAN captain.

[the_dmn8tr]

That is a good illustration, don't know about the accuracy, but a plausible hypothesis. Found this article yesterday:

http://airportbusiness.com/article/a...tion=1&id=8419

It seems to me as if the Brazilian governemnt is trying to railroad these pilots. Granted we don't know the evidence and we can just speculate, but when a government official calls the pilots' statement on the accident "irresponsible," it tends to create some suspiscion as to why he would say that. Sure he might have evidence, but he has been blaming these pilots from the get-go, if charges are filed, I wonder how easily a fair trial for these guys will be obtained.

[BCTAv8r]

The pilots are indeed not allowed to leave the country. Poor guys are staying at the Copacabana Marriott drinking caipirinhas with beautiful women.

[jtrain609]

Originally Posted by BCTAv8r

The pilots are indeed not allowed to leave the country. Poor guys are staying at the Copacabana Marriott drinking caipirinhas with beautiful women.

And are away from their families and could be put in jail for the rest of their life. Yup, they've got it good!

[Chris_Ford]

Translation of the slides (I did this on my own and I don't speak Portuguese, so forgive me)

1 of 7:
The Boeing and the Legacy fly on a frontal collision course, with a (something) and altitude too close together.

2 of 7:
The winglet from the left wing of the Legacy hits the left wing of the boeing between the (end?) and the turbine

3 of 7:
And the left winglet of the Boeing hits the stablizer of the Legacy

4 of 7:
This explains why the right winglets and stablizers were undamaged

5 of 7:
(The winglet did something) and the wing of the Boeing broke

6 of 7:
With only a portion of the wing and no stablizer, the Gol pilot loses control of the airplane

7 of 7:
Out of control, the airplane's nose breaks. Intense force tears apart the cabin

Not 100% of everything but'll give you an idea.

[Mahesh]

Originally Posted by BCTAv8r

The pilots are indeed not allowed to leave the country. Poor guys are staying at the Copacabana Marriott drinking caipirinhas with beautiful women.

Actually as I had mentioned before, my colleague at my current job used to fly as captain with one of the pilots at ACA and is also a good friend of his. He has been in daily contact with them and says both are very depressed and understandably have major survivors guilt. I think it is kind of insensitive to imply that they are hanging out drinking and partying.

[BCTAv8r]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

And are away from their families and could be put in jail for the rest of their life. Yup, they've got it good!

If they were indeed at fault then I don't have any objections to them facing consequences.

[jtrain609]

Originally Posted by BCTAv8r

If they were indeed at fault then I don't have any objections to them facing consequences.

I'm glad you're perfect and you've never made a mistake in an airplane before.

Rumor has it that there's an AD out there for Legacy transponders turning themselves off for no reason. Are these guys going to be held responsible for that?

[ComplexHiAv8r]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Rumor has it that there's an AD out there for Legacy transponders turning themselves off for no reason. Are these guys going to be held responsible for that?

I have heard this too, but haven't seen anything "offical" on that.

[BCTAv8r]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

I'm glad you're perfect and you've never made a mistake in an airplane before.

Rumor has it that there's an AD out there for Legacy transponders turning themselves off for no reason. Are these guys going to be held responsible for that?

Not if it is the aircraft's fault. That's just like me driving on the wrong side of the road and killing a bunch of people and then use the "nobody's perfect" excuse. Again, this is all if they are indeed at fault.