Airline Approaches - Page 2

EatSleepFly · October 8th, 2006, 21:13

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Originally Posted by jtrain609

BTW, shooting an NDB approaches with an RMI is cheating!

My "new" airplane is high-tech. It has an RMI and an autopilot!

jtrain609 · October 8th, 2006, 21:18

Yeah but you can MEL both, right?

EatSleepFly · October 8th, 2006, 21:23

Of course! It's a freighter, there's not much you can't MEL!

jtrain609 · October 8th, 2006, 21:23

"Left engine running rough. CDLed per..."

Lee D · October 8th, 2006, 23:04

For us in the Brasilia I'd say the ILS is the most common. GPS approaches are not uncommon these days. Heck, just did a VOR approach into Bakersfield last week and an VOR-DME into Elko NV just the other day.

Just off the top of my head, the only NDB approach I can think of ever doing here is in Sun Valley Idaho. However we usually do the GPS approach now. (Lower mins.)

KLB · October 8th, 2006, 23:15

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Originally Posted by GaTechKid

Anyway, you look out to the right and see White Plains and feel sorry for the Colganites based there.

I'm no Colganite, but White Plains' not a bad place to stay.....that is, if you can afford it.

Maximillian_Jenius · October 8th, 2006, 23:23

What's the difference between a GPS & RNAV approach? I thought RNAV was basically a GPS approach!

jtrain609 · October 8th, 2006, 23:44

Naw, a GPS approach is an RNAV approach but an RNAV approach is not a GPS approach.

If you have an actual RNAV unit, like say a KNS 80, then you can "move" a VOR and create waypoints you can fly to. So you can shoot an RNAV approach with a GPS because the database will already have these waypoints in it.

But you can't make do a GPS approach with an RNAV unit. While GPS IS aRea NAVigation (get it?), it's not actually an RNAV unit, which is a specific piece of equipment.

Maximillian_Jenius · October 8th, 2006, 23:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Naw, a GPS approach is an RNAV approach but an RNAV approach is not a GPS approach.

If you have an actual RNAV unit, like say a KNS 80, then you can "move" a VOR and create waypoints you can fly to. So you can shoot an RNAV approach with a GPS because the database will already have these waypoints in it.

But you can't make do a GPS approach with an RNAV unit. While GPS IS aRea NAVigation (get it?), it's not actually an RNAV unit, which is a specific piece of equipment.

I knew that you'd be the one to answer. I hope in a years time I'm as cool and knowledgeable as you!

jtrain609 · October 8th, 2006, 23:48

Dude I don't know ####, I just happened to fly somewhere that we had a KNS80 and I figured out how to use it

EDIT: DUDE! Turn on AIM!

Cruise · October 9th, 2006, 02:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaTechKid

The Expressway Visual to LGA is quite possibly the greatest approach on the east coast. It really doesn't get any better than getting vectored over downtown Manhattan and Central Park.

Man, I love that approach! Cruise over Manhattan, Shea Stadium, Flushing Meadows.......

It's just a great view for the entire approach.....good stuff, good stuff.

Cruise · October 9th, 2006, 02:39

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Originally Posted by KLB

I'm no Colganite, but White Plains' not a bad place to stay.....that is, if you can afford it.

I'm not based there.....but I think Colgan gives those people (HPN) somewhere around a $300 bump per month to adjust for cost-of-living in the area.

modesto2 · October 9th, 2006, 07:43

We still do a lot of VOR approaches into Mexico. Only a handful of the airports down there have a ILS.

WestIndian425 · October 9th, 2006, 11:08

JFK's Canarsie approach is a nice one as well, using 1 VOR for two runways.

From what I can gather, there are two NDB approaches in the San Joaquin valley (at least that I know of): both at Tracy, using Tracy NDB.

Bandit_Driver · October 9th, 2006, 13:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Dude I don't know ####, I just happened to fly somewhere that we had a KNS80 and I figured out how to use it

EDIT: DUDE! Turn on AIM!

I'm impressed. I used to fly a B200 that had an RNAV and no one could figure the darn thing out. Had to love the GPS that was mounted between the seats though.

October 8th, 2006, 21:18	#27
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,329	Re: Airline Approaches Yeah but you can MEL both, right?

October 8th, 2006, 21:23	#28
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Airline Approaches Of course! It's a freighter, there's not much you can't MEL!

October 8th, 2006, 21:23	#29
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,329	Re: Airline Approaches "Left engine running rough. CDLed per..."

October 8th, 2006, 23:04	#30
Lee D Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 626	Re: Airline Approaches For us in the Brasilia I'd say the ILS is the most common. GPS approaches are not uncommon these days. Heck, just did a VOR approach into Bakersfield last week and an VOR-DME into Elko NV just the other day. Just off the top of my head, the only NDB approach I can think of ever doing here is in Sun Valley Idaho. However we usually do the GPS approach now. (Lower mins.)

October 8th, 2006, 23:23	#32
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 18,997	Re: Airline Approaches What's the difference between a GPS & RNAV approach? I thought RNAV was basically a GPS approach! __________________ Rear Admiral www.gayviator.com Maximillian Pegasus

October 8th, 2006, 23:44	#33
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,329	Re: Airline Approaches Naw, a GPS approach is an RNAV approach but an RNAV approach is not a GPS approach. If you have an actual RNAV unit, like say a KNS 80, then you can "move" a VOR and create waypoints you can fly to. So you can shoot an RNAV approach with a GPS because the database will already have these waypoints in it. But you can't make do a GPS approach with an RNAV unit. While GPS IS aRea NAVigation (get it?), it's not actually an RNAV unit, which is a specific piece of equipment.

October 8th, 2006, 23:48	#35
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,329	Re: Airline Approaches Dude I don't know ####, I just happened to fly somewhere that we had a KNS80 and I figured out how to use it EDIT: DUDE! Turn on AIM!

October 9th, 2006, 07:43	#38
modesto2 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 32	Re: Airline Approaches We still do a lot of VOR approaches into Mexico. Only a handful of the airports down there have a ILS.

October 9th, 2006, 11:08	#39
WestIndian425 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: KEWR (by way of Brooklyn, NY) Posts: 951	Re: Airline Approaches JFK's Canarsie approach is a nice one as well, using 1 VOR for two runways. From what I can gather, there are two NDB approaches in the San Joaquin valley (at least that I know of): both at Tracy, using Tracy NDB. __________________ God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground.

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