Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads)

Propilot · September 29th, 2006, 21:35

A passenger plane (737-800) flown by Brazilian airline Gol disappeared over the Amazon jungle on Friday after losing radar contact and failed to arrive at its destination with 155 people on board, the company said.

Rest of story...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092901355.html

Looks like mid-air

AlexF · September 29th, 2006, 21:37

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092901355.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washington Post

SAO PAULO, Brazil (Reuters) - A passenger plane flown by Brazilian airline Gol disappeared over the Amazon jungle on Friday after losing radar contact and failed to arrive at its destination with 155 people on board, the company said.

The head of Brazil's airports authority, Infraero, said the Gol aircraft collided with another smaller plane in the Amazon region, the Globo news agency reported.The smaller plane, an executive jet, was able to land in a town called Serra do Cachimbo even though it suffered wing damage, Globo reported.

Gol flight 1907, which officials were trying to locate, left Manaus at 2:36 p.m. local time (1836 GMT) but did not arrive in Brasilia at 6:12 p.m. (2112 GMT) as scheduled, a spokesman for the Manaus airport said...

AlexF · September 29th, 2006, 21:38

O.K. It looks like ProPilot beat me to the post. And for some reason I can't delete this. Mods?

mpenguin1 · September 29th, 2006, 21:39

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - A Brazilian jetliner with 140 people aboard was reported missing Friday over the Amazon jungle after colliding with a smaller executive jet, aviation authorities said.

Wladamir Caze, spokesman for the Brazilian aviation authority, told The Associated Press that Gol airlines flight 1907 left the jungle city of Manaus and disappeared after a collision.

He did not elaborate but news reports said the plane reportedly struck a Brazilian-made Legacy aircraft near the Serra do Cachimbo, a Para state city about 600 miles southeast of Manaus. The Legacy managed to land. Manaus is about 1,800 miles northwest of Rio.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060930/..._plane_missing

GatorFC · September 29th, 2006, 21:40

Officials: Plane carrying 155 disappears

Quote:

SAO PAULO, Brazil (Reuters) -- Brazilian airline Gol said Friday it was trying to locate a passenger plane that disappeared from radar and failed to arrive at its destination.

AlexF · September 29th, 2006, 21:42

Post numero tres!

AlexF · September 29th, 2006, 21:43

It's funny, 4 different post, the exact same subject, yet 4 completely different sources!

GatorFC · September 29th, 2006, 21:51

Mods, please delete/integrate as necessary.

SteveC · September 29th, 2006, 21:55

4 threads merged.

AlexF · September 29th, 2006, 21:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

4 threads merged.

Awsome, Crazy mod power!

Thanks

GatorFC · September 29th, 2006, 21:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

4 threads merged.

Now, to determine what the alliances will be!

Outwit, Outplay, Outlast

meyers9163 · September 29th, 2006, 22:17

Interesting new article..... Didnt know if anyone knew anything about it...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060930/..._plane_missing

SteveC · September 29th, 2006, 22:49

5th thread merged.

Maximillian_Jenius · September 29th, 2006, 23:04

Lets play the game of how many threads can be merged in one night and here is your host SteveC!

MQAAord · September 29th, 2006, 23:07

Just for kicks I thought I'd start a 6th thread about it

But I figured I'd get a swift kick in the arse from Steve if I did so I didn't

TFaudree_ERAU · September 30th, 2006, 00:22

And now to begin the real discussion...
It sounds to me as if the two aircraft were operating in a non-radar environment. I'd put my money on controller error.

mrivc211 · September 30th, 2006, 06:06

How could both aircraft not have received RA on each other? Specially with a new 737.

mpenguin1 · September 30th, 2006, 09:26

Brazil passenger jet found crashed in Amazon

http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articl...mktNews&rpc=44

escue planes found the wreckage of a Brazilian passenger jet on Saturday, a day after it disappeared with 155 people on board over the Amazon jungle, Brazil's airport authority said.

"The plane was found. The wreckage was found," Jose Carlos Pereira, president of the airport authority Infraero, told reporters.

SteveC · September 30th, 2006, 09:59

Hmmmm. Wonder where the discrepancy will be found?

Quote:

Piers said the Embraer pilot told the authorities "he practically did not see the plane. When he saw something it was but a shadow. And he felt a shock, which made him lose part of a wing." Nevertheless, radars showed the Legacy and the Boeing were flying with an altitude difference of about 1,000 feet (300 metres).

(bold added)

Radar (thus both plane's encoding altimeters) showed them 1,000 feet apart? If that statement is true it will be interesting to see how that was possible.

.

BCTAv8r · September 30th, 2006, 11:21

Based on the list of passengers, I was able to go to the Brazilian version of Myspace (Orkut) and check who some of the passengers are. According to someone that was supposedly family of one of the victms, there are survivors. I don't know if this is just speculation or if it's inside info that the airline told the families but haven't been published yet.

ronaldpilot · September 30th, 2006, 11:29

Brazilian Aviation Departament informed 5 minutes ago that the Boeing maybe crashed terrain in "vertical position." If it happened, they will not find any survivors at all.

BCTAv8r · September 30th, 2006, 11:59

Infraero has just stated they have recieved info that there are survivors, althought not how many.

SteveC · September 30th, 2006, 12:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCTAv8r

Infraero has just stated they have recieved info that there are survivors, althought not how many.

I can't find a link.....have one?

BCTAv8r · September 30th, 2006, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

I can't find a link.....have one?

http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/c...5u126520.shtml

It's in Portuguese though.

SteveC · September 30th, 2006, 12:32

Thanks. I couldn't find anything on Infraero's site.

Hope it's true!

Babel Fish translation:

Quote:

The Infraero affirmed in the beginning of the afternoon of this Saturday to the Online Leaf to have received information on survivors from the accident with Boeing 737-800 of the Goal, occurred in the afternoon of yesterday in the Mato Grosso, the 200 km of Peixoto Azevedo. However, the possible number of survivors was still not divulged.

September 29th, 2006, 21:35	#1
Propilot Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NE United States Posts: 304	Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads) A passenger plane (737-800) flown by Brazilian airline Gol disappeared over the Amazon jungle on Friday after losing radar contact and failed to arrive at its destination with 155 people on board, the company said. Rest of story... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...092901355.html Looks like mid-air __________________ Just fly

September 29th, 2006, 21:38	#3
AlexF Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal or Mexico? I get confused which is which! Posts: 870	Re: Brazil airliner missing with 155 people! O.K. It looks like ProPilot beat me to the post. And for some reason I can't delete this. Mods? __________________ If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done?

September 29th, 2006, 21:39	#4
mpenguin1 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 9,851 Blog Entries: 5	Brazilian jet missing after collision RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil - A Brazilian jetliner with 140 people aboard was reported missing Friday over the Amazon jungle after colliding with a smaller executive jet, aviation authorities said. Wladamir Caze, spokesman for the Brazilian aviation authority, told The Associated Press that Gol airlines flight 1907 left the jungle city of Manaus and disappeared after a collision. He did not elaborate but news reports said the plane reportedly struck a Brazilian-made Legacy aircraft near the Serra do Cachimbo, a Para state city about 600 miles southeast of Manaus. The Legacy managed to land. Manaus is about 1,800 miles northwest of Rio. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060930/..._plane_missing __________________ To see a world in a grain of sand And Heaven in a wild flower Hold infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in a hour. -William Blake

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AlexF Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: SoCal or Mexico? I get confused which is which! Posts: 870	Re: Brazilian jet missing after collision Post numero tres! __________________ If you try to fail and succeed, which have you done?

September 29th, 2006, 21:43	#7
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September 29th, 2006, 22:17	#12
meyers9163 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,928	Brazil Plane Missing Interesting new article..... Didnt know if anyone knew anything about it... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060930/..._plane_missing

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TFaudree_ERAU Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia is for Lovers, yacht chasing on the weekends Posts: 1,770	Re: Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads) And now to begin the real discussion... It sounds to me as if the two aircraft were operating in a non-radar environment. I'd put my money on controller error.

September 30th, 2006, 06:06	#17
mrivc211 Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 1,994	Re: Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads) How could both aircraft not have received RA on each other? Specially with a new 737.

September 30th, 2006, 09:26	#18
mpenguin1 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 9,851 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads) Brazil passenger jet found crashed in Amazon http://yahoo.reuters.com/news/articl...mktNews&rpc=44 escue planes found the wreckage of a Brazilian passenger jet on Saturday, a day after it disappeared with 155 people on board over the Amazon jungle, Brazil's airport authority said. "The plane was found. The wreckage was found," Jose Carlos Pereira, president of the airport authority Infraero, told reporters. __________________ To see a world in a grain of sand And Heaven in a wild flower Hold infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in a hour. -William Blake

September 30th, 2006, 11:21	#20
BCTAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 6,057	Re: Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads) Based on the list of passengers, I was able to go to the Brazilian version of Myspace (Orkut) and check who some of the passengers are. According to someone that was supposedly family of one of the victms, there are survivors. I don't know if this is just speculation or if it's inside info that the airline told the families but haven't been published yet.

September 30th, 2006, 11:29	#21
ronaldpilot Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BROCKTON,MA Posts: 12	Re: Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads) Brazilian Aviation Departament informed 5 minutes ago that the Boeing maybe crashed terrain in "vertical position." If it happened, they will not find any survivors at all.

September 30th, 2006, 11:59	#22
BCTAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 6,057	Re: Brazil 737-800 mid-air today, 155 on board. (merged threads) Infraero has just stated they have recieved info that there are survivors, althought not how many.

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