Introduction

Brent.Inc · September 21st, 2006, 02:40

Hi, my name is Brent Buchholtz and I've been fascinated in aviation since I was young and started to visualize it as a career. I did a lot of research on FBO's and flight schools which led me to ATP where I am going to go to pursue my career. I heard about jetcareers.com and have come here to find an obscene amount of information about all different areas of aviation and am addicted to the site. I will be posting more as I learn more and hope to see you all in the forums! Please direct my post to the right area, if this is not, I was not 100% sure of where to post an intro, thanks!

Brent

DE727UPS · September 21st, 2006, 02:48

Hi Brent,

You probably should have put this at the members announcements but don't worry about it.

Why did you choose ATP?

Personally, I don't think it's the best choice for many people but they do have a great website/marketing.

Please keep up updated on how your training goes.

Captain_Bob · September 21st, 2006, 03:21

Welcome Brent!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

...but they do have a great website/marketing.

Not nearly as nice as FSI or DCA!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

Please keep up updated on how your training goes.

Yes... please do.

Bob

DE727UPS · September 21st, 2006, 03:35

"Not nearly as nice as FSI or DCA!"

There ya go Bob, you found something we can agree on...

Captain_Bob · September 21st, 2006, 03:37

Oh there's more than you think... believe it or not.

Just gotta look past our "specific" issues that we both seem to discuss from time to time.

Bob

Brent.Inc · October 1st, 2006, 03:18

Hey guys,

I have to agree they have a great website and marketing, but from all the research I've currently done they stick to what they say which I hear is hard to find at a lot of schools, while it is quite expensive I would say that the quality is worth the cost, not only that but so many people recommend ATP as a great school. For me the accelerated program is perfect because it fits my study style compared to going to a FBO which would take a larger amount of time to go through. I see a lot of people disagree with the amount of time that one is finished with at ATP and wonder why it is a negative if ATP graduates are still getting hired. I'm still researching and have yet to find a school that has a reputation as good as ATP but am sure there are certainly some out there, but ATP is just right for me.

kellwolf · October 1st, 2006, 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brent.Inc

For me the accelerated program is perfect because it fits my study style compared to going to a FBO which would take a larger amount of time to go through.

Very common misconception. With a motivated student, you can finish in that same amount of time even at an FBO. I did. I also had a couple of students finish ratings in lighning fast speed as an instructor. I think it's more about the instructor and students and their motivations than the name on the front of the building.

KLB · October 1st, 2006, 13:08

If you are studious, have good access to your instructor, decent weather, and good maintenance.....you could get things taken care of in a timely manner anywhere.

montanapilot · October 1st, 2006, 14:58

someone who is motivated can get it done and a pretty comparable amount of time for alot cheaper.

Brent.Inc · October 8th, 2006, 04:34

From what I hear, FBO's cannot compare in the amount of time that ATP does with its immersion program, can you give some examples and insight.

frog_flyer · October 8th, 2006, 05:32

Don, the more you fight with my hero (bob), the more I ship my #### via fedex......... think about it bubba........ that's likes .000000000000000000153 cents out of your pocket.......... eh?!!!

Maximillian_Jenius · October 8th, 2006, 05:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by frog_flyer

Don, the more you fight with my hero (bob), the more I ship my #### via fedex......... think about it bubba........ that's likes .000000000000000000153 cents out of your pocket.......... eh?!!!

Lol...

Brent.Inc · October 9th, 2006, 04:56

Captain_Bob · October 10th, 2006, 00:59

Brent... Kellwolf and KLB bring up some very valid points. I'll even quote Don here:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DE727UPS

The secret to success in flight training is motivated student, experienced instructor, and a well maintained airplane. That's all you need.

ATP has that... but, there are many FBO type flight schools who specialize in accelerated training. When doing your research... make sure they have those things...

SkyMates and White Air are two that come to mind right off the bat due to their wonderful support of JC.com here!

I suppose even Ari could be considered an accelerated FBO type of flight school.

Bob

DE727UPS · October 10th, 2006, 03:38

"FBO's cannot compare in the amount of time that ATP does with its immersion program"

ATP is fast for a set price. It's on their website. Take their price to an FBO that has a twin and I bet they could meet the price and do it just as fast. Not all FBO's, but I'll bet for every ATP location in the country you'll find three or four FBO's that could get it done just as well, might cost you less, and maybe you'll find a CFI that has more than six months experience.

If there is an ATP location where you live, they would be a strong contender. Just don't count all FBO's out because of what you see at the ATP forum or read at the ATP website. Coming to the general fourm at JC is giving you a much more balanced input, as you can see from the responses so far.

Brent.Inc · October 10th, 2006, 21:12

Ok I can see your points ^^

September 21st, 2006, 02:40	#1
Brent.Inc Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 35	Introduction Hi, my name is Brent Buchholtz and I've been fascinated in aviation since I was young and started to visualize it as a career. I did a lot of research on FBO's and flight schools which led me to ATP where I am going to go to pursue my career. I heard about jetcareers.com and have come here to find an obscene amount of information about all different areas of aviation and am addicted to the site. I will be posting more as I learn more and hope to see you all in the forums! Please direct my post to the right area, if this is not, I was not 100% sure of where to post an intro, thanks! Brent __________________ Indeed

September 21st, 2006, 02:48	#2
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,481	Re: Introduction Hi Brent, You probably should have put this at the members announcements but don't worry about it. Why did you choose ATP? Personally, I don't think it's the best choice for many people but they do have a great website/marketing. Please keep up updated on how your training goes.

September 21st, 2006, 03:35	#4
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,481	Re: Introduction "Not nearly as nice as FSI or DCA!" There ya go Bob, you found something we can agree on...

September 21st, 2006, 03:37	#5
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,852	Re: Introduction Oh there's more than you think... believe it or not. Just gotta look past our "specific" issues that we both seem to discuss from time to time. Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

October 1st, 2006, 03:18	#6
Brent.Inc Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 35	Re: Introduction Hey guys, I have to agree they have a great website and marketing, but from all the research I've currently done they stick to what they say which I hear is hard to find at a lot of schools, while it is quite expensive I would say that the quality is worth the cost, not only that but so many people recommend ATP as a great school. For me the accelerated program is perfect because it fits my study style compared to going to a FBO which would take a larger amount of time to go through. I see a lot of people disagree with the amount of time that one is finished with at ATP and wonder why it is a negative if ATP graduates are still getting hired. I'm still researching and have yet to find a school that has a reputation as good as ATP but am sure there are certainly some out there, but ATP is just right for me. __________________ Indeed

October 1st, 2006, 13:08	#8
KLB Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: DFW Posts: 2,483	Re: Introduction If you are studious, have good access to your instructor, decent weather, and good maintenance.....you could get things taken care of in a timely manner anywhere.

October 1st, 2006, 14:58	#9
montanapilot Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: Portland, Orygun Posts: 1,638	Re: Introduction someone who is motivated can get it done and a pretty comparable amount of time for alot cheaper.

October 8th, 2006, 04:34	#10
Brent.Inc Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 35	Re: Introduction From what I hear, FBO's cannot compare in the amount of time that ATP does with its immersion program, can you give some examples and insight. __________________ Indeed

October 8th, 2006, 05:32	#11
frog_flyer Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: FTW Posts: 3,932 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Introduction Don, the more you fight with my hero (bob), the more I ship my #### via fedex......... think about it bubba........ that's likes .000000000000000000153 cents out of your pocket.......... eh?!!! __________________ Charter Member - JC Pilot Motion Picture Society (JC PiMPS) "There needs to be more drinking here on JC. We need more ******* partying!" -Doug Taylor

October 9th, 2006, 04:56	#13
Brent.Inc Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 35	Re: Introduction Haha __________________ Indeed

October 10th, 2006, 03:38	#15
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,481	Re: Introduction "FBO's cannot compare in the amount of time that ATP does with its immersion program" ATP is fast for a set price. It's on their website. Take their price to an FBO that has a twin and I bet they could meet the price and do it just as fast. Not all FBO's, but I'll bet for every ATP location in the country you'll find three or four FBO's that could get it done just as well, might cost you less, and maybe you'll find a CFI that has more than six months experience. If there is an ATP location where you live, they would be a strong contender. Just don't count all FBO's out because of what you see at the ATP forum or read at the ATP website. Coming to the general fourm at JC is giving you a much more balanced input, as you can see from the responses so far.

October 10th, 2006, 21:12	#16
Brent.Inc Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oceanside, CA Posts: 35	Re: Introduction Ok I can see your points ^^ __________________ Indeed

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