In need of a Pilot Job. - Page 2

caliginousface · August 23rd, 2006, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by casey

real pilots use swatch. good enough for the olympics, good enough for me!

I still haven't figured out the chronograph procedure. Damn the Swiss!

Andrew_VT · August 23rd, 2006, 00:06

Josh, what is a flight instructor intern, serious question, i want to know. Do they pay less, making you jump through hoops to upgrade to full blown flight instructor? If thats the case i totally understand why you would want to find another job.

Timbuff10 - I didnt know people still did paper 8710s (only half sarcastic) IACRA takes the decimal points, ive always included them, but now you have me thinking those decimals just dissapear somewhere in cyberspace. My DE's hate paperwork, they want to get the process over with right then and there, no mailing and signing. Plus the student gets their certificate in the mail much sooner...why not switch over?

Doug Taylor · August 23rd, 2006, 00:14

Sheesh people, chill the hell out.

Every single one of you in this thread was a JC "Newbie". When did we start eating our young?

slushie · August 23rd, 2006, 00:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Sheesh people, chill the hell out.

Every single one of you in this thread was a JC "Newbie". When did we start eating our young?

mmm youthburger.

N422NM · August 23rd, 2006, 01:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Sheesh people, chill the hell out.

Every single one of you in this thread was a JC "Newbie". When did we start eating our young?

Brains...brains....young aviatior brrraaaiiiinnnsss.......

JEP · August 23rd, 2006, 01:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh Southerlin

Is there anybody out there looking for a Pilot or Co-Pilot with low time? I'm also a CFI and MEI.

My hours consist of: Total Time 555.1, SEL 493.6, MEL 51.9, Instrument Time 69.5, Cross Country 260.7, Night 47.3, Instruction Given 142.2, Takeoff's and Landings 1,111, Complex Time 152.9.

Aircraft flown: C-152 77.2, C-172R(Skyhawk) 103.0, C-182(Skylane) 10.5, PA28-161(Piper Warrior) 214.6, PA28R-201(Piper Arrow) 102.4, PA44-180(Piper Seminole) 51.9.

Right now I'm currently employed by Georgia Aviation Technical College as a Flight Instructor Intern. The school is a Part 141 flight school. This is also where I graduated from. Any help would be greatfully apprishated. I have a current Resume aviable upon request.

-Josh Southerlin

airborne680072000@yahoo.com
Email me for phone number

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Can't fault the guy for being resourceful.

My questions are:

a. Where are you working now?

If you're not currently working, basically your only options are getting your CFI, maintaining currency and continuing your job search.

You're not really that marketable at your current flight times, especially if you're not current.

Unless I am missing something Doug he already has his CFI....

Back to work now....

Timbuff10 · August 23rd, 2006, 02:00

I like paper 8710s... They just give me that warm happy feeling inside

Yeah, I know IACRA is supposed to be easier and I am registered for it or whatever but until they go with an online way of doing it I think I am sticking with my paper version.

E_Dawg · August 23rd, 2006, 02:02

I'd keep instructing to get some multi time. You're pretty close to the mins for some places. And spell check your resume before you send it out

OneNineHundy · August 23rd, 2006, 03:54

I don't know about in the US but here in New Zealand I am a flight instructor intern.

Basically what that means is I am enrolled in a 3 year diploma course. In the first year you get PPL,CPL,Single engine instrument rating, and flight instructor rating. This costs $55,000 and includes around 300 flight hours.

In my second year (which I am currently half way through) you instruct the first year students, and also any aero club flying. The second year costing $8,000 and include 50 hours IFR flying, and air transport rating. Also in this year I lecture the year one students on 5 of their theory subjects.

In my third year I will get my multi engine instrument rating and do some multi air transport work, as well as continueing instructing as required. This 3rd year costs $5000. At the end of the course we are guarenteed 625 hours, and not to expect much more at all.

We are expected to work 5 days a week, 8am - 5pm and this includes one weekend day. We also complete 5 business papers over the 3 years.

Is this a good deal? Well I will let you be the judge, we are treated like staff, just free staff. The hours attained at the end of the 3 years are a plus, but it makes you wonder whether you could be doing the exact same job but get paid for your work.

A question for you guys, would you do this type of course in the US? I hope no one thinks its PFJ, and I am selling the industry short, it is a generally accepted practice in New Zealand. Anyhow I would appreciate your thoughts.

P.s Doug is there anyway I can change my username? Just having my name is a little uninspiring and at the time I signed up I could think of nothing better.

Thanks

Ryan

Vladimir Lenin · August 23rd, 2006, 09:28

woooow, new zealand, where men pft and sheep are nervous

BobDDuck · August 23rd, 2006, 12:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanHealey

A question for you guys, would you do this type of course in the US? I hope no one thinks its PFJ, and I am selling the industry short, it is a generally accepted practice in New Zealand. Anyhow I would appreciate your thoughts.

I don't think anybody is going to call it PFJ/PFT too much. Are litmus test would be are they paying you for your time instrucing or are you just getting the flight time/ratings for cheaper? In the States anyways I think it would be pretty bad to not get paid for your time instructing people. It might not be a lot, but if you are paying $8000 AND working for the company that isn't that great. If you are paying $8000 for the flight time/ratings and they are paying your for your time spent instructing then that isn't so bad. But then again you Kiwis do things differently so it might be 100% acceptable down there.

moxiepilot · August 24th, 2006, 08:37

"flight instructor intern" gives me the heebie jeebies. while a second year flight student has more knowledge than a newbie, i can't think of how many times the law of primacy is going to be violated.

caliginousface · August 24th, 2006, 18:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Sheesh people, chill the hell out.

Every single one of you in this thread was a JC "Newbie". When did we start eating our young?

Sorry Doug.

August 23rd, 2006, 00:06	#27
Andrew_VT Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vermont Posts: 617	Re: In need of a Pilot Job. Josh, what is a flight instructor intern, serious question, i want to know. Do they pay less, making you jump through hoops to upgrade to full blown flight instructor? If thats the case i totally understand why you would want to find another job. Timbuff10 - I didnt know people still did paper 8710s (only half sarcastic) IACRA takes the decimal points, ive always included them, but now you have me thinking those decimals just dissapear somewhere in cyberspace. My DE's hate paperwork, they want to get the process over with right then and there, no mailing and signing. Plus the student gets their certificate in the mail much sooner...why not switch over?

August 23rd, 2006, 00:14	#28
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August 23rd, 2006, 02:00	#32
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	Re: In need of a Pilot Job. I like paper 8710s... They just give me that warm happy feeling inside Yeah, I know IACRA is supposed to be easier and I am registered for it or whatever but until they go with an online way of doing it I think I am sticking with my paper version. __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

August 23rd, 2006, 02:02	#33
E_Dawg Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 4,311	Re: In need of a Pilot Job. I'd keep instructing to get some multi time. You're pretty close to the mins for some places. And spell check your resume before you send it out __________________ Yeah, I just stare at my desk; but it looks like I'm working. I do that for probably another hour after lunch, too. I'd say in a given week I probably only do about fifteen minutes of real, actual, work.

August 23rd, 2006, 03:54	#34
OneNineHundy Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: New Zealand Posts: 84	Re: In need of a Pilot Job. I don't know about in the US but here in New Zealand I am a flight instructor intern. Basically what that means is I am enrolled in a 3 year diploma course. In the first year you get PPL,CPL,Single engine instrument rating, and flight instructor rating. This costs $55,000 and includes around 300 flight hours. In my second year (which I am currently half way through) you instruct the first year students, and also any aero club flying. The second year costing $8,000 and include 50 hours IFR flying, and air transport rating. Also in this year I lecture the year one students on 5 of their theory subjects. In my third year I will get my multi engine instrument rating and do some multi air transport work, as well as continueing instructing as required. This 3rd year costs $5000. At the end of the course we are guarenteed 625 hours, and not to expect much more at all. We are expected to work 5 days a week, 8am - 5pm and this includes one weekend day. We also complete 5 business papers over the 3 years. Is this a good deal? Well I will let you be the judge, we are treated like staff, just free staff. The hours attained at the end of the 3 years are a plus, but it makes you wonder whether you could be doing the exact same job but get paid for your work. A question for you guys, would you do this type of course in the US? I hope no one thinks its PFJ, and I am selling the industry short, it is a generally accepted practice in New Zealand. Anyhow I would appreciate your thoughts. P.s Doug is there anyway I can change my username? Just having my name is a little uninspiring and at the time I signed up I could think of nothing better. Thanks Ryan

August 24th, 2006, 08:37	#37
moxiepilot Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: CFI / CFII in PA Posts: 2,742	Re: In need of a Pilot Job. "flight instructor intern" gives me the heebie jeebies. while a second year flight student has more knowledge than a newbie, i can't think of how many times the law of primacy is going to be violated.

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