Uniforms at the instructing level - Page 2

SteveC · August 12th, 2006, 18:19

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Originally Posted by A300Capt

... but I'd still rather just be called "Bill"...except of course from my f/o's who must still refer to me as "Sir", "My Captain", "Captain Sir" or my personal favorite...."Your Lordship". Has a nice ring to it..doesn't it?!?

I was right there with you all the way up to the "Bill" part. There we will have to part company, I'm afraid. I just can't agree with you on that, 'cause "Bill" just wouldn't suit me, not one bit!

Maximillian_Jenius · August 12th, 2006, 18:20

I think that as a flight instructor and as an employee if the company you work for madates a uniform wear it. But don't require it for the students....grrrr!

desertdog71 · August 12th, 2006, 18:35

I see no point to wearing an airline style uniform.

When I visited schools before making my selection I visited places with a bunch of Nazi Youth looking wannabes wearing airline uniforms and the stereotypical aviator sunglasses. I was totally turned off and scratched them off the list. To me its just trying to portray yourself as something you are not.

Looking professional does not require this type of uniform. A simple polo with company logo is more than sufficient. Students on the other hand should not be required to wear a uniform at all.

USMCmech · August 12th, 2006, 21:05

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Originally Posted by KBUF

At my flight school, we are required to wear a dress shirt and a tie...anyone else work at a school with this requirement? Just curious.

My personal goal is to fly professionally for my entire career without ever have worn a tie.

Tim · August 12th, 2006, 23:09

When I was ATA we had to wear the uniform and it sucked in the summer...Looking back I got many funny looks when walking into a FBO with that on

N422NM · August 12th, 2006, 23:22

Another thread on this ???? Didn't last months version of this turn into something like 5 pages...

Do CFI (airline) uniforms suck...yup. Unfortunately if the CFI wants a paycheck at the places that require them they are a necessary evil I guess.

Are they a marketing ploy ? Yup, I think so.

Does it matter in the quality of training ? I doubt it.

In the end, who cares ? No one except people on this forum I think.....

kellwolf · August 12th, 2006, 23:33

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Originally Posted by jrh

Then he made a point I hadn't heard before. He said he flew a cross country with a friend one weekend while off the clock, so he was wearing shorts, a t-shirt, and sandals. The line service workers didn't hardly give him the time of day when he pulled up to the FBO. The next day he flew the same trip to the same FBO with a student and they were both in uniform. The FBO staff treated them like royalty.

I SERIOUSLY doubt they treated them better b/c they were wearing uniforms. They still rolled up in a 152. Did he ever think it might have been a DIFFERENT CREW working the second day? Now, if he's talking about the guys/gals on the inside, they saw the uniform and probably thought they were with a King Air or something outside. To me, that's just pretending to be something you're not.

Screaming_Emu · August 12th, 2006, 23:37

who gives a damn what they're wearing, so long as the instruction is good.

N422NM · August 12th, 2006, 23:42

If I ran an FBO or academy that had only topless supermodels as CFI's I'm sure I would find some guy that would complain about their uniform on here...

Champcar · August 12th, 2006, 23:43

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Originally Posted by N422NM

If I ran an FBO or academy that had only topless supermodels as CFI's I'm sure I would find some guy that would complain about their uniform on here...

FBO Hotties!

jtrain609 · August 12th, 2006, 23:46

Wearing uniforms when you instruct helps the communists.

Timbuff10 · August 13th, 2006, 00:36

No air conditioner = no uniform, no tie, no epaulets!

Open windows don't count as air conditioner.

There was a school in Fredrick, Maryland I was looking at applying at for a CFI job a while back. They seemed pretty desperate... When I went in the chief was wearing a full uniform along with one of the other CFIs. I hung on to my resume that day.

I refuse to participate in that sort of thing.

JaceTheAce · August 13th, 2006, 00:43

For hot weather, why not wear a tank top and a Speedo®?

Maximillian_Jenius · August 13th, 2006, 00:44

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Originally Posted by N422NM

If I ran an FBO or academy that had only topless supermodels as CFI's I'm sure I would find some guy that would complain about their uniform on here...

Me...

JaceTheAce · August 13th, 2006, 00:46

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Me...

Heck, I wouldn't complain! What are you talking about Max?! You too can appreciate a nice lookin' woman.

N422NM · August 13th, 2006, 00:46

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Originally Posted by Maximillian_Jenius

Me...

Then I'll assign the dude that has to wear the speedo to you...

I believe in EEO....LOL

Ralgha · August 13th, 2006, 00:54

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

I SERIOUSLY doubt they treated them better b/c they were wearing uniforms. They still rolled up in a 152. Did he ever think it might have been a DIFFERENT CREW working the second day? Now, if he's talking about the guys/gals on the inside, they saw the uniform and probably thought they were with a King Air or something outside. To me, that's just pretending to be something you're not.

I've rolled up to Flightcraft at PDX in a 152, had it break on me, and the Flightcraft staff went far out of their way to help me out. I was wearing khaki pants, some kinda shirt, sneakers, and a winter ski jacket (it was cold). Didn't exactly look professional.

Maximillian_Jenius · August 13th, 2006, 01:05

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Heck, I wouldn't complain! What are you talking about Max?! You too can appreciate a nice lookin' woman.

I know but I just wanted to be the sole voice of dissent!

Maximillian_Jenius · August 13th, 2006, 01:07

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Originally Posted by N422NM

Then I'll assign the dude that has to wear the speedo to you...

I believe in EEO....LOL

Make him an Olympic swimmer and you gotta deal!

scottyboy75 · August 13th, 2006, 01:39

At least it is not a flight helmet and nomex flight suit. There has been a safety notice published that states pilots have been burned in post crash fires. Robinson has now suggested that all pilots wear helmets and nomex. We are just waiting to see what the insurance companies have to say, as they are the ones who run the industry. Their is only one thing a helmet is good for, it gives the investigator a place to look so they can identify you by dental records.

WAFlyBoy · August 13th, 2006, 04:10

The flight school I teach at requires students and instructors to wear uniforms. I don't really mind terribly. They don't make us wear ties in the summer and the uniform is a good conversation starter with the chicks in town. (latter intended as a joke.... kind of)

Anyhow, we only train foreign pilots at this campus and I'm quite certain that the requirement of a uniform fosters an environment of professionalism and discipline that wouldn't exist if we wore street clothes while training.

Mr_Creepy · August 13th, 2006, 09:17

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Originally Posted by Tim

When I was ATA we had to wear the uniform and it sucked in the summer...Looking back I got many funny looks when walking into a FBO with that on

Reminds me of one day that the "Coke Nazi" said that the CRJ instructors should be wearing uniforms. LOL I couldn't help but laugh in her face

Mr_Creepy · August 13th, 2006, 09:19

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Originally Posted by scottyboy75

Their is only one thing a helmet is good for, it gives the investigator a place to look so they can identify you by dental records.

What a great quote - almost perfect?

"There"

scottyboy75 · August 13th, 2006, 11:43

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Originally Posted by Mr_Creepy

What a great quote - almost perfect?

"There"

Woops, long day of drinking and hanging drywall.

FlyingNole · August 13th, 2006, 11:51

Even people who have spelling errors in their quotes

August 12th, 2006, 18:20	#27
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 19,231	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level I think that as a flight instructor and as an employee if the company you work for madates a uniform wear it. But don't require it for the students....grrrr! __________________ Rear Admiral www.gayviator.com Maximillian Pegasus

August 12th, 2006, 18:35	#28
desertdog71 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KIDP/KCNU Posts: 3,008	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level I see no point to wearing an airline style uniform. When I visited schools before making my selection I visited places with a bunch of Nazi Youth looking wannabes wearing airline uniforms and the stereotypical aviator sunglasses. I was totally turned off and scratched them off the list. To me its just trying to portray yourself as something you are not. Looking professional does not require this type of uniform. A simple polo with company logo is more than sufficient. Students on the other hand should not be required to wear a uniform at all. __________________ www.flywhiteair.com http://www.myspace.com/desertdog71 Following message is for SkyCougar. Took my chances on a big jet plane, Never let them tell you that they're all the same.

August 12th, 2006, 23:09	#30
Tim Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,205	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level When I was ATA we had to wear the uniform and it sucked in the summer...Looking back I got many funny looks when walking into a FBO with that on __________________ Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turn skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.----- Leonardo Da Vinci

August 12th, 2006, 23:22	#31
N422NM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 36-44-28.5000N / 108-13-47.8000W Posts: 521	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level Another thread on this ???? Didn't last months version of this turn into something like 5 pages... Do CFI (airline) uniforms suck...yup. Unfortunately if the CFI wants a paycheck at the places that require them they are a necessary evil I guess. Are they a marketing ploy ? Yup, I think so. Does it matter in the quality of training ? I doubt it. In the end, who cares ? No one except people on this forum I think.....

August 12th, 2006, 23:37	#33
Screaming_Emu Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,396	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level who gives a damn what they're wearing, so long as the instruction is good. __________________ Commercial Pilot - ASEL, AMEL, Instrument CFI/II 1050TT CRJ-700 FO at Southernjets Connection Former flight instructor out of KBWI and W29 Loves Dutch chicks "jtrain609: I wish I had a pair"

August 12th, 2006, 23:42	#34
N422NM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 36-44-28.5000N / 108-13-47.8000W Posts: 521	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level If I ran an FBO or academy that had only topless supermodels as CFI's I'm sure I would find some guy that would complain about their uniform on here...

August 12th, 2006, 23:46	#36
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level Wearing uniforms when you instruct helps the communists.

August 13th, 2006, 00:36	#37
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level No air conditioner = no uniform, no tie, no epaulets! Open windows don't count as air conditioner. There was a school in Fredrick, Maryland I was looking at applying at for a CFI job a while back. They seemed pretty desperate... When I went in the chief was wearing a full uniform along with one of the other CFIs. I hung on to my resume that day. I refuse to participate in that sort of thing. __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

August 13th, 2006, 00:43	#38
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,544	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level For hot weather, why not wear a tank top and a Speedo®? __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Join the Impact - Protest Prop 8 on November 15th!

August 13th, 2006, 01:39	#45
scottyboy75 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SLC Posts: 764	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level At least it is not a flight helmet and nomex flight suit. There has been a safety notice published that states pilots have been burned in post crash fires. Robinson has now suggested that all pilots wear helmets and nomex. We are just waiting to see what the insurance companies have to say, as they are the ones who run the industry. Their is only one thing a helmet is good for, it gives the investigator a place to look so they can identify you by dental records. __________________ Comm Rotorcraft CFI, CFII Rotorcraft

August 13th, 2006, 04:10	#46
WAFlyBoy Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wa Posts: 744	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level The flight school I teach at requires students and instructors to wear uniforms. I don't really mind terribly. They don't make us wear ties in the summer and the uniform is a good conversation starter with the chicks in town. (latter intended as a joke.... kind of) Anyhow, we only train foreign pilots at this campus and I'm quite certain that the requirement of a uniform fosters an environment of professionalism and discipline that wouldn't exist if we wore street clothes while training.

August 13th, 2006, 11:51	#50
FlyingNole Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 2,090	Re: Uniforms at the instructing level Even people who have spelling errors in their quotes __________________ Don't call her a babe, ok? She is a Chechnyan prostitute, and you will address her as such! -ATHF

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