ATTN CAPE AIR AND NANTUCKET AIR PILOTS

[FlightItch]

I am currently living on Cape Cod. I am doing landscaping for my step fathers company. I was watching the cape air flights out of Hyannis and I swear I saw a Cessna 402 every 10 min or less! How many is there? How is it working for them? I would love to get in and start a entry level job with them just to get my foot in the door. Any input would be great I'm just curious

[stuckingfk]

Originally Posted by FlightItch

I am currently living on Cape Cod. I am doing landscaping for my step fathers company. I was watching the cape air flights out of Hyannis and I swear I saw a Cessna 402 every 10 min or less! How many is there? How is it working for them? I would love to get in and start a entry level job with them just to get my foot in the door. Any input would be great I'm just curious

This job requires an ATP so I wouldn't classify this as an entry level job.

Other than that, I don't have much to say.

[Torch1930]

I think you can fly mail and cargo with just a multi and commercial but I may be wrong. But thats still a lot.

[wheelsup]

Originally Posted by stuckingfk

This job requires an ATP so I wouldn't classify this as an entry level job.

Other than that, I don't have much to say.

I remember hearing that sometimes they'd hire ramp guys with a commercial and when an a/p broke they'd but the ramp guy in as an SIC.

I think what he meant by "entry level job" is getting in on the ground floor ie ramper.

[MrLeisure757]

I've started to know Cape Air pretty well even though I do not work for them. I talked to a pilot the other day and he told me they are looking for their pilots to be "at ATP standards" and if they are not, then they may fly mail. Personally, I think it's a great gig to build time. And ontop of that the airline itself does a great job at what they do. I fly them frequently around the Cape and Islands and it's always pleasant. There is at least one Cape Air pilot here on the board, he can probably fill you in on everything else about the company.

I know what you mean about them coming over every few minutes. I'm right under the right base for Runway 24....as if I need to hear more planes after listening to APUs burning all day...

[flyhigh]

Originally Posted by wheelsup

I remember hearing that sometimes they'd hire ramp guys with a commercial and when an a/p broke they'd but the ramp guy in as an SIC.

you are right about that...my former cfi went thru cape air and now he's with shuttle america. he worked on the ramp for several months before getting hired to be a pilot. i've heard the training program there is very good.

my former cfi told me they fly without somebody in the right seat, unless the weather is very bad. but usually they fly single ifr, which he says regional/major airlines approve greatly of (please correct me if this isnt true). one more thing i'll say is he started out flying pax, but when he got higher up in the "ranks", he flew all mail. it's funny to see a cape air taxing and seeing a passenger in the right seat.

[MrLeisure757]

Originally Posted by flyhigh

my former cfi told me they fly without somebody in the right seat, unless the weather is very bad. but usually they fly single ifr, which he says regional/major airlines approve greatly of (please correct me if this isnt true). one more thing i'll say is he started out flying pax, but when he got higher up in the "ranks", he flew all mail. it's funny to see a cape air taxing and seeing a passenger in the right seat.

Funny you say that...last Tuesday I flew to Boston after work and since the weather was pretty nasty we had another pilot in the right seat. On the way back on Thursday I rode right seat. I found it hard to stay awake once those props were in sync....hmmmmmmhmmmmmhmmmmm

[shinysideup]

Here is the run down. Cape Air has hired ramp/operations personelle to fly as an SIC when it is required.

Back up information for those who need it. Part 135 scheduled IFR, you need an SiC onboard. If you have an autopilot you MAY use the autopilot instead of a SIC. Therefore if the autopilot is INOP, you need to have an SIC. Also, the PIC may not use an autopilot instead of the SIC, unless they have 100 hours time in make and model of aircraft. So for the first 100 hours of time you need an SIC to fly IFR

SICs for Cape Air are hired usually between 800-1000 hours, fly SIC when needed, then when they hit the 135 mins (1200 plus all the other ones which I can't think of off the top of my head) then they fly the mail. (Cape Air does all the express mail for Nantucket, and also some freight). Because we are a SCHEDULED air carrier, to fly the passengers you must have an ATP, therefore our applicants are usually much more qualified then that of an RJ operation hireing with 600-100me.

It is very unlikely that someone would go from the pax back to the mail plane.

So in wrap up: Lower time guys we hire go from Pax SIC, Mail PIC, Pax PIC.