Mesa

flyallday · April 5th, 2003, 01:22

Anybody out there know how long it takes to upgrade to captian at Mesa?

Doug Taylor · April 5th, 2003, 01:24

Personally, I'm not sure, but one of my fraternity brothers is a Mesa pilot, and I'll zap him an email and ask.

flyallday · April 5th, 2003, 03:49

Thanks, Also whats there new payscale?
I got accepted into MAPD but Im not sure If I want to go, I feel its the best program for me but over on flightinfo it seems there are a lot of pilots that look down on pilots who fly for Mesa, not really sure why but thats why Im thinking about not attending MAPD

A320_DUDE · April 5th, 2003, 04:00

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Thanks, Also whats there new payscale?
I got accepted into MAPD but Im not sure If I want to go, I feel its the best program for me but over on flightinfo it seems there are a lot of pilots that look down on pilots who fly for Mesa, not really sure why but thats why Im thinking about not attending MAPD

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They look down at Mesa because of their new contract they will become the new bottom feeders of the small jet airline world. Their payscales and workrules completely suck. They have put the rest of the smally jet drivers at a disadvantage....until recently most small jet airlines were working out a "ComAir" type contract....now we are gonna see management at these companies pull out the YV contract and asking their guys why they can't work for those peanuts. I'd rather be at American Eagle then at Mesa. Spend your money somewhere else.

MissedApproach · April 5th, 2003, 12:12

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Thanks, Also whats there new payscale?
I got accepted into MAPD but Im not sure If I want to go, I feel its the best program for me but over on flightinfo it seems there are a lot of pilots that look down on pilots who fly for Mesa, not really sure why but thats why Im thinking about not attending MAPD

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I to am planning on going through MAPD in Fall. Do the majors openly discrimate against mesa pilots? Would my chances of getting hired by a major be better if I went through another regional?

sbav8r · April 5th, 2003, 12:46

Whatever you do don't let them move you into Freedumb Air when your done. That would be career suicide. Or did Freedom get into the union with the last contract? I'm not sure but I do know there is much anymosity towards those guys.

flyallday · April 6th, 2003, 01:45

This info is coming from a Mesa pilot

In two years we are supposed to have 75-100 more jets and have to hire 1000 pilots. The new contract prohibits 1900 FO's from going to the jet unless it is as a captain. You can upgrade as soon as you're able in the 1900D (maybe a year or so in the right seat, and thats how long it will take you to get the 1500 TT) and there's an 18 month seatlock as a beech captain. you can bid jet captain after the 18 months. I still think it will take 3-4 years seniority to hold jet captain because NO ONE is leaving. If you get hired as FO on the jet it will take a few years.

first year beech FO pay is about 17-18K. Year 2 beech FO is 20K.
first jear JET FO pay is about 18K also. year 2 is 27K and yr 3 is 31.

I dont understand why everybody is so down on the money Mesa pilots get, how much are other companys paying there pilots like Tran states Etc....

April 5th, 2003, 01:22	#1
flyallday Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA baby!!! Posts: 226	Mesa Anybody out there know how long it takes to upgrade to captian at Mesa?

April 5th, 2003, 01:24	#2
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mesa Personally, I'm not sure, but one of my fraternity brothers is a Mesa pilot, and I'll zap him an email and ask.

April 5th, 2003, 03:49	#3
flyallday Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA baby!!! Posts: 226	Re: Mesa Thanks, Also whats there new payscale? I got accepted into MAPD but Im not sure If I want to go, I feel its the best program for me but over on flightinfo it seems there are a lot of pilots that look down on pilots who fly for Mesa, not really sure why but thats why Im thinking about not attending MAPD

April 5th, 2003, 04:00	#4
A320_DUDE Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Hartford,CT Posts: 220	Re: Mesa [ QUOTE ] Thanks, Also whats there new payscale? I got accepted into MAPD but Im not sure If I want to go, I feel its the best program for me but over on flightinfo it seems there are a lot of pilots that look down on pilots who fly for Mesa, not really sure why but thats why Im thinking about not attending MAPD [/ QUOTE ] They look down at Mesa because of their new contract they will become the new bottom feeders of the small jet airline world. Their payscales and workrules completely suck. They have put the rest of the smally jet drivers at a disadvantage....until recently most small jet airlines were working out a "ComAir" type contract....now we are gonna see management at these companies pull out the YV contract and asking their guys why they can't work for those peanuts. I'd rather be at American Eagle then at Mesa. Spend your money somewhere else.

April 5th, 2003, 12:12	#5
MissedApproach Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 540	Re: Mesa [ QUOTE ] Thanks, Also whats there new payscale? I got accepted into MAPD but Im not sure If I want to go, I feel its the best program for me but over on flightinfo it seems there are a lot of pilots that look down on pilots who fly for Mesa, not really sure why but thats why Im thinking about not attending MAPD [/ QUOTE ] I to am planning on going through MAPD in Fall. Do the majors openly discrimate against mesa pilots? Would my chances of getting hired by a major be better if I went through another regional?

April 5th, 2003, 12:46	#6
sbav8r Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 195	Re: Mesa Whatever you do don't let them move you into Freedumb Air when your done. That would be career suicide. Or did Freedom get into the union with the last contract? I'm not sure but I do know there is much anymosity towards those guys.

April 6th, 2003, 01:45	#7
flyallday Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA baby!!! Posts: 226	Re: Mesa This info is coming from a Mesa pilot In two years we are supposed to have 75-100 more jets and have to hire 1000 pilots. The new contract prohibits 1900 FO's from going to the jet unless it is as a captain. You can upgrade as soon as you're able in the 1900D (maybe a year or so in the right seat, and thats how long it will take you to get the 1500 TT) and there's an 18 month seatlock as a beech captain. you can bid jet captain after the 18 months. I still think it will take 3-4 years seniority to hold jet captain because NO ONE is leaving. If you get hired as FO on the jet it will take a few years. first year beech FO pay is about 17-18K. Year 2 beech FO is 20K. first jear JET FO pay is about 18K also. year 2 is 27K and yr 3 is 31. I dont understand why everybody is so down on the money Mesa pilots get, how much are other companys paying there pilots like Tran states Etc....

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