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Old May 22nd, 2006, 03:07   #1
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Default Any SO cal FBO's with Warriors or Arrows???

Just wondering I am planning to check out an Arrow or a Warrior (preferably 2000 and up model with the Garmins) in So cal. However I notice that a lot of FBO's dont have them. It seems that most if not all SO cal FBO's love the Cessnas, which in my opinion Warriors, though a bit underpowered, are more stable and directionaly as well. And I like the low wing feel. so does anyone on here know of any FBO's with Arrow's or warriors??
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Just wondering I am planning to check out an Arrow or a Warrior (preferably 2000 and up model with the Garmins) in So cal. However I notice that a lot of FBO's dont have them. It seems that most if not all SO cal FBO's love the Cessnas, which in my opinion Warriors, though a bit underpowered, are more stable and directionaly as well. And I like the low wing feel. so does anyone on here know of any FBO's with Arrow's or warriors??
Chris, come out to my FBO. It's not with Garmins, but we do have some warriors!
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Just wondering I am planning to check out an Arrow or a Warrior (preferably 2000 and up model with the Garmins) in So cal.
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Old May 22nd, 2006, 15:17   #5
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Default Re: Any SO cal FBO's with Warriors or Arrows???

Just off the top of my head, I can't think of any FBO's that offer new(ish) Warriors or Arrows! Mine has a Warrior, but it is by no means new! However, they have a brand new C-T182T with like 40hours and G1000, does that count?
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Default Re: Any SO cal FBO's with Warriors or Arrows???

I'm pretty sure Piper hasn't produced an Arrow in a long time, so you won't find any "newer" ones. OCFC at KSNA has a couple 2000 Archers with Garmin stacks though.
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Universal air academy at El Monte has an Arrow4 and two archers.
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Universal air academy at El Monte has an Arrow4 and two archers.
Good to see ya posting bro!

How's the instructing going?

I'll give ya a call sometime, maybe i can come down there!
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Damn...if he wants to fly one with a Garmin then help him find one, dont give him crap. I know you are all perfect and all but come on.
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I'm pretty sure Piper hasn't produced an Arrow in a long time, so you won't find any "newer" ones.
Piper still makes the Arrow. Plenty of new ones out there.

http://www.newpiper.com/aircraft/arrow/default.asp
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Piper still makes the Arrow. Plenty of new ones out there.

http://www.newpiper.com/aircraft/arrow/default.asp
Cool. I thought they were done. Thanks.
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Default Re: Any SO cal FBO's with Warriors or Arrows???

Correct me if I'm wrong but you don't even have your PPL completed right (Chris)? If so why are you concerning yourself with an Arrow of all things? That is a high performance (I believe) "complex" aircraft. Are you trying to skip walking (again) and go straight to driving?

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Correct me if I'm wrong but you don't even have your PPL completed right (Chris)? If so why are you concerning yourself with an Arrow of all things? That is a high performance (I believe) "complex" aircraft. Are you trying to skip walking (again) and go straight to driving?

Not high performance. Only 200HP. It is complex.
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Not high performance. Only 200HP. It is complex.
Thanks...I wasn't sure. But still if he hasn't complete his PPL (which honestly not sure if he has or not) I think he is kinda jumping the gun in wanting to pilot a complex aircraft like the arrow.
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 12:23   #18
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my $0.02-
Even if you are a new Pvt pilot i would not discourage a complex checkout especially if you have any low wing, especially piper time at all. I did my complex at around 80 hrs and found it a rather simple transition. I did a few hours in Flight simulator 2004 with the constant speed prop and then an hour of ground and found that besides a few small differences ie the prop, a little more power, and retractable gear it is just an airplane and should be conquered no problem. Just remember GUMPS, except instead of just saying undercarriage and looking at your fixed gears, put the gear down and check for the greens. anyway just my two cents for what its worth complex is a lot of fun and a nice little increase in speed just requires a little bit o ground and some attention to detail.
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