Part 142, "Bustin' Balls", ERAU and Chris Ford's Signature - Page 2

S40_flyer · May 21st, 2006, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

Your sig confirms that you are.

Its just says that I enjoy flying...

For your information riddle is a pt. 142 now...

There are no hour limitations for any ratings in exchange for more stage checks. I can get ratings faster and then build my hours wokring as a CFI. I may have as many as 100 hours less than most by the time I get my CFI (I should have about 250TT). I can build the difference in about a month instructing...

It may cost more per hour but I need less time so it ends up costing about the same...

Champcar · May 21st, 2006, 14:18

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Originally Posted by S40_flyer

Its just says that I enjoy flying...

For your information riddle is a pt. 142 now...

There are no hour limitations for any ratings in exchange for more stage checks. I can get ratings faster and then build my hours wokring as a CFI. I may have as many as 100 hours less than most by the time I get my CFI (I should have about 250TT). I can build the difference in about a month instructing...

It may cost more per hour but I need less time so it ends up costing about the same...

142 sucks. All that sim time sucks. I cant see the airlines feeling too warm about alot of sim time from a new hire. Them level D sims arent that much cheaper than the 172 anyways.

desertdog71 · May 21st, 2006, 14:18

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Originally Posted by S40_flyer

Its just says that I enjoy flying...

For your information riddle is a pt. 142 now...

There are no hour limitations for any ratings in exchange for more stage checks. I can get ratings faster and then build my hours wokring as a CFI. I may have as many as 100 hours less than most by the time I get my CFI (I should have about 250TT). I can build the difference in about a month instructing...

It may cost more per hour but I need less time so it ends up costing about the same...

I don't think I want a CFI with 100 LESS hours than normal.

Oh and 250TT is the time required under Part 61 for a CFI.

Once again you managed to sound cocky, by stating that you can be a CFI faster than anyone elses program. I understand what you are saying, but I guarantee a rip coming.

Mariano · May 21st, 2006, 14:22

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Originally Posted by Champcar

Nice...S 40 I got news. Any moron can fly an airplane, so don't feel special.

And you are the living proof.

............. (Just kidding)

Just busting your balls. (like you were busting S 40's)

Champcar · May 21st, 2006, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Mariano

And you are the living proof.

............. (Just kidding)

Just busting your balls. (like you were busting S 40's)

Hey I know im not that sharpest tool in the shed. (just look at my spelling and grammar from time to time)

Chris_Ford · May 21st, 2006, 14:24

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Originally Posted by S40_flyer

Its just says that I enjoy flying...

For your information riddle is a pt. 142 now...

There are no hour limitations for any ratings in exchange for more stage checks. I can get ratings faster and then build my hours wokring as a CFI. I may have as many as 100 hours less than most by the time I get my CFI (I should have about 250TT). I can build the difference in about a month instructing...

It may cost more per hour but I need less time so it ends up costing about the same...

WELL GOSH, I HAD YOU ALL WRONG!

I got my CFI at ~220 TT (part 61, and that's not any sort of attempt at bragging), so I doth believe you are not only cocky, but gullible. How was the ERAU salesman to you? Did he give you a shiny pair of wings to go with your $150,000 bumper sticker?

Enjoy the sim. Maybe they'll get you a CRJ type too, that would be t3h 4w3s0m3.

S40_flyer · May 21st, 2006, 14:25

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Originally Posted by desertdog71

I don't think I want a CFI with 100 LESS hours than normal.

Oh and 250TT is the time required under Part 61 for a CFI.

Once again you managed to sound cocky, by stating that you can be a CFI faster than anyone elses program. I understand what you are saying, but I guarantee a rip coming.

Like I said. ERAU is a PART 142...

It doesnt matter what the part 61 is if your under part 142...

In that case I wont have 100 less hours than normal will I?

Your twisting my words and you know it man, what a crock of #####.

Mariano · May 21st, 2006, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

Your sig confirms that you are.

With all due respect Mr. Fordian, but look who's talking about cocky signatures.

Champcar · May 21st, 2006, 14:26

Ive got a 142 question. I herd somewere that the airlines were not allowed to count Sim time towards a new hires total time...is this true?

Chris_Ford · May 21st, 2006, 14:27

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Originally Posted by Mariano

With all due respect Mr. Fordian, but look who's talking about cocky signatures.

I'm just quoting what people have told me

Dugie8 · May 21st, 2006, 14:27

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Originally Posted by desertdog71

I don't think I want a CFI with 100 LESS hours than normal.

Why??

Oh and 250TT is the time required under Part 61 for a CFI.

250TT is the requirement for commercial pilot under part 61, no hour requirment is stated, other than having to hold a commerical or ATP cert. I had my commerical cert at 190 hours (part 141) and my CFI at 210. (splitting hairs, I know )

Once again you managed to sound cocky, by stating that you can be a CFI faster than anyone elses program. I understand what you are saying, but I guarantee a rip coming.

Nothing cocky in his statment at all, part 142 has its advantages, you pass a checkride when you are ready, not when you do two more lessons in the pattern to get that .8 hobss time to meet a time requirement. Part 142 has its disadvantages too.

Is it beer thirty yet?

desertdog71 · May 21st, 2006, 14:31

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Originally Posted by S40_flyer

Like I said. ERAU is a PART 142...

It doesnt matter what the part 61 is if your under part 142...

In that case I wont have 100 less hours than normal will I?

Your twisting my words and you know it man, what a crock of #####.

OK let me recap, you said about 250TT and you will have your CFI in a prior post.

The requirement under Part 61 is 250 hours to get your commercial which is a requirement to get your CFI. So therefore 250 hours is the minimum hours for a CFI under Part 61. Now again you said 250TT for your CFI, how is that 100 hours less than Part 61?

Oh and Chris how did you manage a CFI at 220 hours under Part 61? 250 hours is the requirement for commercial.

Now S40 Volvo dude, where did I twist your words?

S40_flyer · May 21st, 2006, 14:32

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

WELL GOSH, I HAD YOU ALL WRONG!

I got my CFI at ~220 TT (part 61, and that's not any sort of attempt at bragging), so I doth believe you are not only cocky, but gullible. How was the ERAU salesman to you? Did he give you a shiny pair of wings to go with your $150,000 bumper sticker?

Enjoy the sim. Maybe they'll get you a CRJ type too, that would be t3h 4w3s0m3.

Posterchild of Purdue University...cool...

If i put "(This is not some sort of attempt at being cocky)" would everything be ok then?

S40_flyer · May 21st, 2006, 14:33

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Originally Posted by Dugie8

Is it beer thirty yet?

Thank you Dugie8!

Dugie8 · May 21st, 2006, 14:33

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Originally Posted by desertdog71

OK let me recap, you said about 250TT and you will have your CFI in a prior post.

The requirement under Part 61 is 250 hours to get your commercial which is a requirement to get your CFI. So therefore 250 hours is the minimum hours for a CFI under Part 61. Now again you said 250TT for your CFI, how is that 100 hours less than Part 61?

Oh and Chris how did you manage a CFI at 220 hours under Part 61? 250 hours is the requirement for commercial.

Now S40 Volvo dude, where did I twist your words?

You answered your own question. Once you have a Commercial cert, under any part (61, 141, 142, mil flight time conversion, etc) you can get the required training and take your CFI ride.

Mariano · May 21st, 2006, 14:34

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Originally Posted by Champcar

I herd somewere

Please tell me that you did this on purpose.

And I know I'm the last person to correct others about grammar and spelling, but since Ford established a precedent in this thread, I thought "Why not".

Champcar · May 21st, 2006, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Mariano

Please tell me that you did this on purpose.

And I know I'm the last person to correct others about grammar and spelling, but since Ford established a precedent in this thread, I thought "Why not".

Damn I knew there was an "a" in there.

desertdog71 · May 21st, 2006, 14:37

Dugie....For the same reason I wouldn't want a fresh CFI out of any school to teach me. Call me Hypocritical since I will expect people to learn from me at some point when I am a fresh CFI. However my right as a consumer is that I am not going to go that route myself.

I am not a Part 141 or 142 proponent because I fail to see how flying LESS makes you better? I will take a solid Part 61 program everytime.

S40_flyer · May 21st, 2006, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Champcar

Ive got a 142 question. I herd somewere that the airlines were not allowed to count Sim time towards a new hires total time...is this true?

Thats correct, you can mention FTD time and they may take it into consideration as far as I know but it doesnt count as total time.

Feel free to correct me becasue I'm not 100% sure.

desertdog71 · May 21st, 2006, 14:39

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Originally Posted by Dugie8

You answered your own question. Once you have a Commercial cert, under any part (61, 141, 142, mil flight time conversion, etc) you can get the required training and take your CFI ride.

I see exactly what you are saying, so private thru commercial under Part 141 or 142 require less time, then get the CFI Part 61. I follow you completely. ALL of my training is Part 61, that is why it did not immediately come to mind.

Chris_Ford · May 21st, 2006, 14:40

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Originally Posted by desertdog71

Oh and Chris how did you manage a CFI at 220 hours under Part 61? 250 hours is the requirement for commercial.

50 hours FTD. Got my commercial at like 205 or so...

S40_flyer · May 21st, 2006, 14:41

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Originally Posted by desertdog71

Dugie....For the same reason I wouldn't want a fresh CFI out of any school to teach me. Call me Hypocritical since I will expect people to learn from me at some point when I am a fresh CFI. However my right as a consumer is that I am not going to go that route myself.

I am not a Part 141 or 142 proponent because I fail to see how flying LESS makes you better? I will take a solid Part 61 program everytime.

You take the same or more stagechecks and checkrides as any other part...

Chris_Ford · May 21st, 2006, 14:41

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Originally Posted by S40_flyer

Posterchild of Purdue University...cool...

If you understood the source of that line, then maybe you'd understand it...

S40_flyer · May 21st, 2006, 14:45

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Originally Posted by Chris_Ford

If you understood the source of that line, then maybe you'd understand it...

Well, im just doing as you advise...

"take EVERYTHING I SAY 100% LITERAL"

desertdog71 · May 21st, 2006, 14:48

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Originally Posted by S40_flyer

You take the same or more stagechecks and checkrides as any other part...

yeah and we all know that EVERY CHECKRIDE is the same no matter who does it right?

I doubt a DE who gets multiple checkrides from say a particular University is gonna be failing too many borderline students, that would be bad for business.

That is the same reason that people avoid the FSDO's like the Plague if possible for the CFI initial.
Stagechecks? shouldn't your instructor know what your progress is without a stagecheck?
I haven't taken a stagecheck yet, and I don't plan on any. A practice checkride yes, but no stagechecks.

May 21st, 2006, 14:26	#34
Champcar Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: KROC Posts: 2,245	Re: How DARE they strike! Ive got a 142 question. I herd somewere that the airlines were not allowed to count Sim time towards a new hires total time...is this true? __________________ Commercial Single/Multi Instrument IGI

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desertdog71 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KIDP/KCNU Posts: 3,008	Re: How DARE they strike! Dugie....For the same reason I wouldn't want a fresh CFI out of any school to teach me. Call me Hypocritical since I will expect people to learn from me at some point when I am a fresh CFI. However my right as a consumer is that I am not going to go that route myself. I am not a Part 141 or 142 proponent because I fail to see how flying LESS makes you better? I will take a solid Part 61 program everytime. __________________ www.flywhiteair.com http://www.myspace.com/desertdog71 Following message is for SkyCougar. Took my chances on a big jet plane, Never let them tell you that they're all the same.

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