How DARE they strike!

[gurisudenko]

http://www.abp1.com/freedomofspeech/.../p_strike.html

WOW...

[jtrain609]

Eh, what are you gonna do? There isn't too much of a reason to get too worked up over it.

[BoilerPilot2007]

I agree that some people might not make as much as they deserve (such as teachers). But give me a break.... some people are unbelievably ignorant.

[gurisudenko]

Meh, people think everything about anything...but still funny to read if you're bored.

[tonyw]

What a tool. I especially like the "$100,000 dollars."

Tool doesn't even know he's saying 100K dollars dollars.

Let's hope he doesn't breed.

[Sandesh]

those hard obstatcles and the cost seems all so worthwhile just to hear people praise us like that- Sarcasm.

[Killtron2000]

You greedy pilots make me sick!

[Bandit_Driver]

ah, the media. You just got to love 'em . They never get anything right with regard to aviation or anything else.

[Killtron2000]

Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver

ah, the media. You just got to love 'em . They never get anything right with regard to aviation or anything else.

No kidding look what happened to the DC-10.

[UH60driver]

Was I daydreaming or did I not learn early in my school years that us Americans have the freedom of choice? Some choose to be police officers, others nurses, and some firefighters for a profession. Some of us chose the aviation industry (not that I am an airline pilot, but I back them up).

I respect and admire the work those professionals who put their life on the line and do think that they are underpaid. However, picking on pilots and throwing in their faces the problems those other professions face as if to ask the pilots to suck it up and drive on is uncalled for. It is not the pilot's problem that those other professions are facing their own issues. The writer should be addressing those professions' problems to the congressmen. If he wants to argue the issues facing the airline industry, then he should research the issues and address them as such, if he can understand them.

I am going to quote the article and respond accordingly...

Back in the early nineties, I personally knew a couple of pilots who flew for some of the major American Airline Corporations. Without going into a major time consuming diatribe about their lifestyle, let's just suffice it to say this:
Their jobs are considerably less risky than those of our grossly underpaid Police Force (at daily risk of being shot to death), professional Nurses (who could easily contract AIDS on the job), or those professional Firefighters who are also grossly underpaid for putting their life on the line almost every single day.

Perhaps the writer will like to visit the NTSB database and read the numerous accounts of accidents and incidents in which pilots were not at fault, yet their lives were on the line. Some paid the ultimate price for doing the job or now have to live with the memory of losing human lives as a result of the events the took place.

Most airline pilots who work for major airline corporations have incredible and excellent benefits which include health, partial dental, 401K retirement, and many frills that go along with being a pilot. Most good airline companies also ensure that pilots are never unduly stressed out and/or that they have to fly in a fatigued state since this would be quite risky to us innocent passengers. There are already many "personal" considerations in place for them.
Oh, and more importantly - most of them have guaranteed salaries which are well above $100,000 (in some cases closer to $200,000) dollars.

Hmmm....Little airline pilot to sleepy writer; can you hear? Hello! Knock Knock Knock. WAKE UP

Here is where this writer disconnects from reality: There are many airline pilots living under poverty level wages trying to raise families. Perhaps the writer would like to share where in the world he is getting such statistics because, from the aviation side, things are not looking so good for the airlines.

I, on the other hand, dare any of them to quit their gosh darned jobs in order to find one that's a bit more realistic and down to earth - such as local GARBAGE and TRASH PICKUP. If it wasn't for those kind of guys, it's very likely that our whole planet would become invested with bacteria, germs, disease, plague, etc. causing countless millions of adults and children to die! Now there's a job that would certainly bring people back to the real world that we live in, and not this B.S. world that the striking airline pilots would like to see created for them.

Golden rule when daring: Do dare only if you are willing take the same dare. Otherwise, sit down and shut up.

A job is a job - nothing more and nothing less . . .
A Pilot's training does not surpass the money or prestige of a Doctor or a Lawyer. But at least they have to fend for themselves without some ridiculous union that even endorses such a ridiculous strike. At least you can sue a Doctor if he screws up. A Pilot's training certainly does not surpass the knowledge of an inventor or College Professor who've probably had to study even longer than a Pilot. There's absolutely no justification whatsoever for these Pilots to be striking for anything and worst of all, if they'd come down to the real plain of existence which most of us reside on, then they'd see first hand that their job and income level is already enviable to most people who can only dream of such incomes and benefits that come with them. Sometimes people can behave truly repulsive and greedy . . .

It is a dangerous environment up there and the skies are safe. Reason: The professionalism and education of those pilots who train and study to achieve that goal. The knowledge of airline pilots does surpass that of an inventor or a college professor; that knowledge is so vast and unknown to the inventor and professor. There are experiences that the latter have never even imagined existed in a person's life.

The education of professional pilots is as intense as a doctor's or a lawyer's education. A professional pilot never stops learning, studying, and training. It is not just any dork flying a multi-million dollar aircraft; it is not just any fool trusted with the lives of other humans in the air; it is not just any idiot taking the responsibility of making decisions which could affect the lives of many. It is an an individual who, in addition to his college years achieving a separate degree, has dedicated years of his life to get to where he/she is. It is a person who possesses the intelligence necessary to observe every bit of a complex environment and manage it, making it a seemingly simple process.

[alphaone]

This is the down side of free speech...

[PGT]

is that article a joke?

seriously someone should get him out of the 90's and into todays world

[pilot602]

Originally Posted by alphaone

This is the down side of free speech...

The only way to fight bad speech is with better speech. Not restricting it.

Don't like what someone has to say? Get off yer arse and write a letter to the editor. Until you take the time and have your words out there for people to see and judge ya don't really have much ground to stand on to complain. (I'm using the universal "you" here, not targeting anyone specific).

This is coming from someone who once upon a time used to report for a living.

[alphaone]

Originally Posted by pilot602

The only way to fight bad speech is with better speech. Not restricting it.

Don't like what someone has to say? Get off yer arse and write a letter to the editor. Until you take the time and have your words out there for people to see and judge ya don't really have much ground to stand on to complain. (I'm using the universal "you" here, not targeting anyone specific).

This is coming from someone who once upon a time used to report for a living.

Thanks for the lecture, I was just saying that to make a point. It is pointless responding to this anyway, cause there will always be someone to fill the role of 'idiot'...

[kellwolf]

If I got worked up over half the blog entries I read, I'd have heart attacks in the Cheney-esque numbers. Thanks for the laughs, though, Cristl.

[mastermags]

I wonder how many of these people who claim that teachers and police officers are underpaid would be willing to take on the extra tax burden to pay them what they are worth?

[wheelsup]

Originally Posted by PGT

is that article a joke?

seriously someone should get him out of the 90's and into todays world

That's the funny thing, that's when this was written LOL. It's gotta be close to 10 years old. Remember the days when legacy pilots actually made a boatload of $$?

Posted above is an article about the 2000 election - says to me this was written sometime in 98 or 99.

[Doug Taylor]

Originally Posted by mastermags

I wonder how many of these people who claim that teachers and police officers are underpaid would be willing to take on the extra tax burden to pay them what they are worth?

You already are! Look closely at some of the advertising done every election season: "We need to pass this bond or cut back on police, fire and teachers in the school!"

Happens out here in Arizona every six months. But the money magically never goes for fire protection, schools, or police. But they'll be back asking for more in the mid terms!

[EricPalmer]

Nice little home made website with someone's "editorial" and poor spelling. How cute.

[Doug Taylor]

I used to get all worked up about stuff like this.

But I've learned one thing in the last 12 or so years of professional aviation:

The most scathingly opinionated people that opine how pilots are overpaid are usually screaming like little girls in the back of the airplane during emergencies and think you're the second coming of Jesus once you land safely.

"Crow" tastes good when served hot off the grill.

[Aeronautik]

He curiously forgot to mention pro athlete salaries. But no, pilot salaries are way more ridiculous....

[meritflyer]

"Pilot's training does not surpass the money or prestige of a Doctor or a Lawyer. But at least they have to fend for themselves without some ridiculous union that even endorses such a ridiculous strike. At least you can sue a Doctor if he screws up. A Pilot's training certainly does not surpass the knowledge of an inventor or College Professor who've probably had to study even longer than a Pilot. There's absolutely no justification whatsoever for these Pilots to be striking for anything and worst of all, if they'd come down to the real plain of existence which most of us reside on, then they'd see first hand that their job and income level is already enviable to most people who can only dream of such incomes and benefits that come with them. Sometimes people can behave truly repulsive and greedy"

ILS down to mins, windshear, hail, gear trouble, aerodynamics, meteorology, engine failures, physics, $100K in education, electrical failures, fires, birdstrikes, hydraulic system failures, pressurization, control surface failures, density altitude, ice, vac system failure, coffin corner, stalls, spins, Vmc, continuous study and testing, crazy pax, possible in-flight threats (hijackings), fog, 0/0 landings, avioding traffic...

Should I go on? $200k isnt high enough!!

[Champcar]

Originally Posted by Killtron2000

No kidding look what happened to the DC-10.

The FAA Director had more to do with the DC-10 mess than the media did.

[ColMustard]

Once you teach a surgeon how to shoot an ILS down to mins in his own plane, you tend to ignore these kind of articles.

BTW, the same surgeon mentioned a study that found the brain activity occurring in a pilot's brain during an IAP was more than double compared to that of a surgeon's during surgery.

As a CFI, you meet folks from all walks of life, and no matter what the profession, each are impressed and respectful of the challenge that flying a plane brings.

-ColM

[Chris_Ford]

Originally Posted by Aeronautik

He curiously forgot to mention pro athlete salaries. But no, pilot salaries are way more ridiculous....

Any Joe can become a pilot. Not so for professional athlete. And as long as people are willing to pay that much for professional athletes, they'll continue to get paid that high.

Funny how many people hate free market capitalism on this site.