anyone under 21 sending resumes to regionals?

higney85 · May 4th, 2006, 22:20

I will be done with my 4 year degree at the beginning of July. Only problem I have is that I don't turn 21 till mid july. I am trying to send out resumes now in hopes of a class date just after I graduate. The ATP written is required by all the regionals I am looking at... I e-mailed ATP about the all atp written program (been hearing great reviews) and asked about the 21yr old prereq. The e-mail I recieved says you must be 21 to take the written, even if you are going to a 121 carrier where it doesnt theoretically expire. Has anyone run into this problem? or have a solution?

sorrygottarunway · May 5th, 2006, 09:10

if you have some major flight time, wow them in an interview, or have some really good connections, it is very difficult. At Colgan there are a *few*- very few that are under 21. They were either in the right place at the right time, or had already built an exceptional background. Keep in mind that when a company looks at you, they want to see a mature, respectable adult for them to invest their money in. Training for the right seat can cost quite a bit of money (sim time, hotel, travel, paying you while you train).

Anyhow, thats my experience when talking to my fellow coworkers.

As far as the written goes, 21 is the limit, but once you are hired by a 121 carrier it does not expire for 5 years (I'm not sure if this is correct, something like that).

Hopefully this was helpful!

higney85 · May 5th, 2006, 12:38

yea i found 61.35... hopefully my resume will be enough w/o the written

SeanD · May 5th, 2006, 12:54

I was in CLT not long ago and I saw a group of pilots sitting in those rocking chairs in the terminal that I swear didnt look over 21 years old.

wheelsup · May 5th, 2006, 13:01

Mesa routinely hires people under 21 - the youngest I know of was 19.

Diamnd15 · May 5th, 2006, 18:31

well do those mesa guys come from mapd, cuz otherwise how else would they get in?

Bigey · May 5th, 2006, 20:23

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Originally Posted by Diamnd15

well do those mesa guys come from mapd, cuz otherwise how else would they get in?

Just dont go to college and started flight training at 17? It's very possible i think? Do an ATP kinda thing right out of highschool or something?

E_Dawg · May 5th, 2006, 22:00

You can always spend the next 2 months working on your 4 year, then take the ATP written. Problem solved.

SteveC · May 5th, 2006, 22:05

I would take a couple of months off and see Europe on the cheap. Youth hostels for a roof over your head, Europass for transportation, and bread from the street vendors for a meal. You'll have the time of your life.

You will never, ever, ever regret taking those few months off from your career path.

CFI_Ty · May 6th, 2006, 14:38

I'm 19, no college and I will be flying the Embraer 135/145 shortly. There are some regionals that dont have an age limit and some that are very strict on it (American Eagle).

higney85 · May 6th, 2006, 15:51

if you do the 4-year degree in 3 years (summer school) and start instructing at age 19... by 21 you are ready for a regional if you know the right people for the multi time.

Diamnd15 · May 6th, 2006, 17:30

wow ur 19 and going to be on an erj, thats awesome, whats ur tt and with who are you going to be flying for?

Chris_Ford · May 6th, 2006, 17:34

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Originally Posted by Diamnd15

wow ur 19 and going to be on an erj, thats awesome, whats ur tt and with who are you going to be flying for?

Yeah really, have fun not having a childhood.

Enjoy the working world!

FlyinTim · May 6th, 2006, 19:44

I am 20 and have 1500/100.. I got my CFI at 19 1/2... its not too hard to do... I went to Utah Valley online and took full time lessons... beats any webster or riddle kid or anything, lot cheaper too...
Anyways I am not gonna go anywhere till next year, gonna go to school to enjoy myself.. and get me ##### done before I get in the regionals...

any comments on that decision?... Kinda still in the middle of goin in the regionals....

Bandit_Driver · May 7th, 2006, 00:55

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Originally Posted by sorrygottarunway

As far as the written goes, 21 is the limit, but once you are hired by a 121 carrier it does not expire for 5 years (I'm not sure if this is correct, something like that).

The ATP written has no expiration as long as you are continuously employed at 121 or 135 carrier. If you become unemployed after the standard 2 year expiration on written exam the exam will then need to be retaken before getting your ATP.

Kingairer · May 7th, 2006, 17:23

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Originally Posted by CFI_Ty

I'm 19, no college and I will be flying the Embraer 135/145 shortly. There are some regionals that dont have an age limit and some that are very strict on it (American Eagle).

SWEET! Now you can upgrade when you hit 26 at Eagle! j/k Toujours Frais!

Chris_Ford · May 7th, 2006, 17:25

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Originally Posted by Kingairer

SWEET! Now you can upgrade when you hit 26 at Eagle! j/k Toujours Frais!

I'm guessing you've been in CYUL a lot lately?

sorrygottarunway · May 7th, 2006, 23:32

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Originally Posted by Kingairer

SWEET! Now you can upgrade when you hit 26 at Eagle! j/k Toujours Frais!

LOL

Swissair · May 8th, 2006, 15:59

It's all about how much effort you put into it.
I graduated with a four year degree from a respectable University at the age of 20. It took me two years, a fall term and a couple of summer classes, and I was able to fly on the side as well.

Obviously it's a lot of work... but hey 2 years for a 4 year aint bad!

I could probably have attended a ATP tryp school for my CFI's and maybe some multi time building and had an interview before age 21.

It's all a question of motivation and making the most out of what options you have. If your High School offers AP's... Take them! they speed up the degree process! If your college offers summer courses... Take them! If your flight school is willing to accomodate your strange hours of availability... Work with them!

It's not gonna be easy, but you can fly through this stuff in no time if you just stay focused and take advantage of every opportunity that comes your way...

ok... my rant is over

GJ1 · May 8th, 2006, 17:44

19??? Jesus, I'm 18 and have trouble keeping a 172 flying right!!!

Maximillian_Jenius · May 8th, 2006, 18:05

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19??? Jesus, I'm 18 and have trouble keeping a 172 flying right!!!

cause you ghetto...

GJ1 · May 8th, 2006, 18:58

you got jokes!?!?!?!

Maximillian_Jenius · May 8th, 2006, 19:00

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you got jokes!?!?!?!

I got jokes an jokes an jokes!

lineguy · May 8th, 2006, 23:12

I'd definetely start school and have a life. Those 21yr olds at Regionals with no college will regret it when they end up with all the minimums for a major with no degree. It will be hard to hit the books again, trust me. For the 21 yr olds WITH the degree I say GOOD job, especially one in a non-aviation field.

There are so many different paths that it really doesn't matter how old you are. I'm 21 and am only about half way through instrument training with 1 yr left for a BA in Business. I'll be 22, maybe 23 when I graduate with, I hope a Commercial license and a few Part 91 King Air gigs awaiting me. Skip those darn Regionals! It's who you know in this business.

You can be 30 yrs old, go to ATP for 3 months, instruct for a year and meet Regional req'ts in a little over a year. Do the time and log the PIC, do some networking and make it to a major before 40 and retire at 60. All while having a life. What more does one need?

jonnyb · May 9th, 2006, 00:31

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Originally Posted by wheelsup

Mesa routinely hires people under 21 - the youngest I know of was 19.

God help us all.