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Old May 4th, 2006, 12:44   #1
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Default New Virgin America

here it is http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1040140/M/
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Old May 4th, 2006, 12:46   #2
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Woo hoo, into a world of high fuel costs, steep transcon competitition, et al.

Good luck Mr. Branson.
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Old May 4th, 2006, 13:15   #3
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Default Re: New Virgin America

To the best of my knowledge Virgin is batting 50/50 with their airlines- Vintage some DC-3 operator out of FL, a corp. charter company and Virgin Sun all went out of business.

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here's a link to a pic of their first a320, http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...&TopOfYest=yes
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Woo hoo, into a world of high fuel costs, steep transcon competitition, et al.

Good luck Mr. Branson.
He's paying A320 CA's $80k/yr
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here's a link to a pic of their first a320, http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...&TopOfYest=yes
I think SeanD beat you to it. Did you even read the first post?
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To the best of my knowledge Virgin is batting 50/50 with their airlines- Vintage some DC-3 operator out of FL, a corp. charter company and Virgin Sun all went out of business.

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...Anyone think that the continued use of "Virgin" for all of Branson's subsidaries is past played!?
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My goodness!
Did you all really miss Virgin Galactic??
Before you say it: Yes way!
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He's paying A320 CA's $80k/yr
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Old May 4th, 2006, 19:38   #10
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...Anyone think that the continued use of "Virgin" for all of Branson's subsidaries is past played!?
Not all of them have Virgin in them - my fav. is http://www.ulusaba.com
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Who knows? Maybe Virgin will get screwed when they come to America?

(pun very much intended)
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Yep. I can see the headlines now: "Uncle Sam Pops Virgin's Cherry"
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Default Re: New Virgin America

I dont like the foriegn owned cariers coming into the US. I think its wrong, we are already "over capacity" with the airlines here.

Another thing too, this wil lead to foreign flag cariers that are government owned...not good for our own, privately owned companies.
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Yep. I can see the headlines now: "Uncle Sam Pops Virgin's Cherry"
LMAO , nice!
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Default Re: New Virgin America

Everyone knocks their pay... They are paying their Captain's $80K/year. Is that really that bad considering they are all first year captains?

I don't think too many other airlines are hiring street captains but this can't be too far off from what any other airline pays a first year pilot? I am also guessing that the pay goes up dramatically each year?
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I dont like the foriegn owned cariers coming into the US. I think its wrong, we are already "over capacity" with the airlines here.

Another thing too, this wil lead to foreign flag cariers that are government owned...not good for our own, privately owned companies.
There should be regulations on that.

They are kind of stupid though. Instead of coming to the US where there are lots of competition, they should have gone to South America where there isn't so much. They could easily put some airlines out of bussiness there. Then again, maybe they can do the same here.
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My goodness!
Did you all really miss Virgin Galactic??
Before you say it: Yes way!
Sweet they're going to build a spaceport in New Mexico! So that means the aliens can dock there instead of making BS passes. I love Albuquerque and hot air balloons!
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There should be regulations on that.

They are kind of stupid though. Instead of coming to the US where there are lots of competition, they should have gone to South America where there isn't so much. They could easily put some airlines out of bussiness there. Then again, maybe they can do the same here.
There actually are regulations restricting foriegn carriers from flying domestic routes in the US...at least there used to be. I beleive the term to describe a foreign airline flying domestic routes is called "cabotage"

I remember something about this in the news recently where Bush was concidering legislation allowing foriegn carriers to fly domestic routes...but im not sure of the details (or if its even final yet). Im sure there is plenty of opposition from US carriers...and I am strongly against it. Its just gonna send US companies further down the drain and as already discused in this thread pilot payscales along with them.
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Default Re: New Virgin America

Virgin is 51% American owned, and is employing Americans - what is the big deal.
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Yep. I can see the headlines now: "Uncle Sam Pops Virgin's Cherry"
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There should be regulations on that.

They are kind of stupid though. Instead of coming to the US where there are lots of competition, they should have gone to South America where there isn't so much. They could easily put some airlines out of bussiness there. Then again, maybe they can do the same here.
There are regulations. Too many. Virgin must be majority American owned. So it's an American company with Virgin branding.
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There are regulations. Too many. Virgin must be majority American owned. So it's an American company with Virgin branding.
yeah, that makes sense.
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