Avoiding the Regionals... - Page 4

flyover · April 26th, 2006, 15:05

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Originally Posted by SFLAX

But if are to move forward in this industry we need to look at all ideas. Management is always looking a trying new things, why can't we.

Which is why I'm skeptical that they fired the FA who was hooking on layovers. The potential revenue from pimping the FAs on layovers would have caught their attention right away.

Think what that would do for frequent flier programs.

Doug Taylor · April 26th, 2006, 16:06

It'd be a real ringer in the original PSA's old "Fly ME!" ad campaign.

(or whoever that was)

greaper007 · April 26th, 2006, 17:43

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Originally Posted by greaper007

Mesa has a pretty good upgrade time right now though, don't they? What's the upgrade at express jets or american eagle, like 5 years? It seems like you take what you can get to better your life. If you might have a chance to move on to somewhere bigger why not take a quick upgrade and deal with the low pay and bad work rules.

I'm understand that not everyone agrees with this, however, this is what several major airline pilots have suggested I do. I'm not talking about ####### yourself out. That would be somewhere like Gulfstream or the now defunct Tab Express. I've known lots of people that really liked Mesa, one of our instructors was back in town the other day. He just got a job at Mesa and said that beyond working a lot he couldn't see why they were looked down upon. That and he said that at 2500 hours he'd probably upgrade.

Granted, if you were older and didn't want to start again at another airline. Somewhere like Mesa or Colgan probably wouldn't be the best place for you to work. However, I've read many times on this board that you get to pick from a few different things when starting out at a regional. QOL, Pay, Upgrade time. You only get to pick one.

Besides wasn't Doug the one that said to stay on the 1900 and get the PIC time on his career profile?

Doug Taylor · April 26th, 2006, 22:22

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Originally Posted by greaper007

Besides wasn't Doug the one that said to stay on the 1900 and get the PIC time on his career profile?

That was written back in the day when a CRJ-700/900 was called a DC-9.

CapnJim · April 26th, 2006, 22:37

Flamebait killer:

You guys are sooooo right! Mesa is so totally awesome!! Like, who cares how much money you make as long as you get the turbine time right??? Then you can go be an 1337 777 f0!!!!1!!!!111ONEONEONEONE!!!

CFIse · April 27th, 2006, 08:44

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Originally Posted by CapnJim

You guys are sooooo right! Mesa is so totally awesome!! Like, who cares how much money you make as long as you get the turbine time right??? Then you can go be an 1337 777 f0!!!!1!!!!111ONEONEONEONE!!!

Look - I've done my part to fix the world.

I don't think janitors make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think garbage men make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think people who pick tobacco and sweet corn make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think bus drivers make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think nurses make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I've done MY part - get off my back!

flyover · April 27th, 2006, 08:51

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Originally Posted by CFIse

Look - I've done my part to fix the world.

I don't think janitors make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think garbage men make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think people who pick tobacco and sweet corn make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think bus drivers make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

I don't think nurses make enough money, so I've refused to be one of those.

But's it's only because they haven't done enough to educate the public.

SFLAX · April 27th, 2006, 10:26

Jim,
Your statement says enough, that you are so blind and single minded, no one ever said Mesa was a great place to work. You just think that is what people are saying. My situation is 100% different from yours and Mesa is actually a great place to work. And lets cover the money stuff (my wife is a 1st grade teacher) we have a car payment, a mortage (in San Francisco area) we have my school loans and the other related costs of life. And we put away almost $500 a month into savings. So I am confussed how I make so little, but I have so much. At Mesa we do work more then most airlines, but I can tell you the stories from people that get screwed or feel that they were treated unfair, will probably feel that way in ever job they have. I have never been JA, I have been paid for what I have worked, I have been released really from shifts, I have had at least 12 days off since coming online. Of you have any real questions about Mesa, I will love to ansewer them, I am not defending them, but I feel that you and alot of people have influence on the younger pilots, and just like the public they need to be informned, not just opinions.

flyover · April 27th, 2006, 10:44

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Originally Posted by SFLAX

Jim,
, no one ever said Mesa was a great place to work..........and Mesa is actually a great place to work.

OK, I haven't been paying much attention to the details here, but I'm going to have to give this one to Jim.

jtrain609 · April 27th, 2006, 10:44

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Originally Posted by SFLAX

Jim,
Your statement says enough, that you are so blind and single minded, no one ever said Mesa was a great place to work. You just think that is what people are saying. My situation is 100% different from yours and Mesa is actually a great place to work. And lets cover the money stuff (my wife is a 1st grade teacher) we have a car payment, a mortage (in San Francisco area) we have my school loans and the other related costs of life. And we put away almost $500 a month into savings. So I am confussed how I make so little, but I have so much. At Mesa we do work more then most airlines, but I can tell you the stories from people that get screwed or feel that they were treated unfair, will probably feel that way in ever job they have. I have never been JA, I have been paid for what I have worked, I have been released really from shifts, I have had at least 12 days off since coming online. Of you have any real questions about Mesa, I will love to ansewer them, I am not defending them, but I feel that you and alot of people have influence on the younger pilots, and just like the public they need to be informned, not just opinions.

You know there is a pretty active Mesa captain on here that has told us about the horrible work rules at Mesa, right?

tonyw · April 27th, 2006, 10:59

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

And the 12 year olds witih "Dead Kennedy's" shirts on.

Perhaps I should call it 'The Beaten Horse'

Yeah, call it Hot Topic and you'll attract the guys who got booted off MySpace for cheesing on 14 year old girls.

And the 14 year old girls on there will be "like, I was, like, on this plane, like, the other day or something? And it was like, tiny? And dirty? Um, like, is that normal or something? OMG, there are like, old people on here!"

jtrain609 · April 27th, 2006, 11:04

Hey hey hey, I shop at Hot Topic.

wheelsup · April 27th, 2006, 11:21

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Originally Posted by SFLAX

Jim,
And lets cover the money stuff (my wife is a 1st grade teacher) we have a car payment, a mortage (in San Francisco area) we have my school loans and the other related costs of life. And we put away almost $500 a month into savings. So I am confussed how I make so little, but I have so much. At Mesa we do work more then most airlines, but I can tell you the stories from people that get screwed or feel that they were treated unfair, will probably feel that way in ever job they have. I have never been JA, I have been paid for what I have worked, I have been released really from shifts, I have had at least 12 days off since coming online. Of you have any real questions about Mesa, I will love to ansewer them, I am not defending them, but I feel that you and alot of people have influence on the younger pilots, and just like the public they need to be informned, not just opinions.

What SFLAX means is that his WIFE puts away $500/month

. Being a government employee in that area I can imagine she makes decent coin (although cost of living certainly counters most of the added income I'd bet).

Fortunately, I don't think the majority of the mesa pilots share his thoughts on the subject. I bet they also know how to spell answer, confused, and informed, but that's just a guess. Apparently that's not on the written there.

SFLAX · April 27th, 2006, 11:22

Flyover,

Great use of editing out the context of the statement. I never said the work rules did not suck. I have always stated that to be true. But at this time in my life, Mesa works for me, may not work for you. I know that Captians get alot more of BS and crap at Mesa b/c they are very short handed.

SFLAX · April 27th, 2006, 11:25

I agree my wife makes more then most public school teachers, but when the average price of a condo is in the mid 300's, and all the other added stuff is higher, the little extra she make is washed away. As for spelling really do not care so much about it. Never took the time to learn how to, to busy.

CapnJim · April 27th, 2006, 11:26

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answer, confused, and informed

Ironic that those were the words mispelled, huh?

wheelsup · April 27th, 2006, 11:29

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Originally Posted by CapnJim

Ironic that those were the words mispelled, huh?

I thought it was more ironic that his wife is a teacher, but I was trying to avoid taking too many shots in one reply.

flyover · April 27th, 2006, 11:31

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Originally Posted by SFLAX

I agree my wife makes more then most public school teachers, but when the average price of a condo is in the mid 300's, and all the other added stuff is higher, the little extra she make is washed away. As for spelling really do not care so much about it. Never took the time to learn how to, to busy.

I think you are doing greatl. Most Americans don't know another language. Yet you communicate pretty well at English. What is your native language?

CapnJim · April 27th, 2006, 11:34

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Originally Posted by wheelsup

I thought it was more ironic that his wife is a teacher, but I was trying to avoid taking too many shots in one reply.

I know, right? It's like, way too easy. Especially when the guy just posted how he just writes crap to get people riled up, and then was offended when I called him a flamebaiter.
Such genius can only come from a Mesa FO.
Schooling him would be like beating a retard with a boat anchor: It's ungratifying and the retard never gets any smarter.

SFLAX · April 27th, 2006, 11:36

Go for it. Make the joke, its fine. I have always been a bad speller, writter and other things, but all those things I really could not care about at all. Life is good right now. Have a good flight, has your instructor allowed you to leave the patten yet.

Maximillian_Jenius · April 27th, 2006, 11:41

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Originally Posted by SFLAX

Go for it. Make the joke, its fine. I have always been a bad speller, writter and other things, but all those things I really could not care about at all. Life is good right now. Have a good flight, has your instructor allowed you to leave the patten yet.

He is a pilot at a REAL regional XJT!

CapnJim · April 27th, 2006, 11:41

pwn7!

Love ya Max!
Um, er.... not in that way... but... you know...

Love ya Max!

SFLAX · April 27th, 2006, 11:46

As oppossed to the fake ones, like the ones you play on the computer. Capn Jim, nice retard comment. Was it hard when you found out that the small bus only took you to school and not the other kids. Offended, come on Jim, offend me you could not ever get close.

wheelsup · April 27th, 2006, 11:48

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Originally Posted by SFLAX

Go for it. Make the joke, its fine. I have always been a bad speller, writter and other things, but all those things I really could not care about at all. Life is good right now. Have a good flight, has your instructor allowed you to leave the patten yet.

I'm glad you're happy - there are a lot of people in this world who aren't. It certainly says a lot that you are happy working at Mesa - things certainly must have been rough growing up

.

As for leaving the pattern, I get to do a cross country tomorrow! Can't wait.

P.S.: This thread is about to sprial out of control...I think this place has started down the path toward flightinfoism

CapnJim · April 27th, 2006, 11:56

Yeah, I'm done. There's nothing more to say that wouldn't seem, well, Lav-worthy. I think it's justice enough that he came here to rile us up, and instead was himself riled.

April 26th, 2006, 16:06	#77
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April 26th, 2006, 22:37	#80
CapnJim Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: G-town, Near D-town. In T-state... er... whatever Posts: 4,499	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... Flamebait killer: You guys are sooooo right! Mesa is so totally awesome!! Like, who cares how much money you make as long as you get the turbine time right??? Then you can go be an 1337 777 f0!!!!1!!!!111ONEONEONEONE!!!

April 27th, 2006, 10:26	#83
SFLAX Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On the Road Posts: 177	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... Jim, Your statement says enough, that you are so blind and single minded, no one ever said Mesa was a great place to work. You just think that is what people are saying. My situation is 100% different from yours and Mesa is actually a great place to work. And lets cover the money stuff (my wife is a 1st grade teacher) we have a car payment, a mortage (in San Francisco area) we have my school loans and the other related costs of life. And we put away almost $500 a month into savings. So I am confussed how I make so little, but I have so much. At Mesa we do work more then most airlines, but I can tell you the stories from people that get screwed or feel that they were treated unfair, will probably feel that way in ever job they have. I have never been JA, I have been paid for what I have worked, I have been released really from shifts, I have had at least 12 days off since coming online. Of you have any real questions about Mesa, I will love to ansewer them, I am not defending them, but I feel that you and alot of people have influence on the younger pilots, and just like the public they need to be informned, not just opinions.

April 27th, 2006, 11:04	#87
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,329	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... Hey hey hey, I shop at Hot Topic. __________________

April 27th, 2006, 11:22	#89
SFLAX Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On the Road Posts: 177	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... Flyover, Great use of editing out the context of the statement. I never said the work rules did not suck. I have always stated that to be true. But at this time in my life, Mesa works for me, may not work for you. I know that Captians get alot more of BS and crap at Mesa b/c they are very short handed.

April 27th, 2006, 11:25	#90
SFLAX Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On the Road Posts: 177	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... I agree my wife makes more then most public school teachers, but when the average price of a condo is in the mid 300's, and all the other added stuff is higher, the little extra she make is washed away. As for spelling really do not care so much about it. Never took the time to learn how to, to busy.

April 27th, 2006, 11:36	#95
SFLAX Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On the Road Posts: 177	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... Go for it. Make the joke, its fine. I have always been a bad speller, writter and other things, but all those things I really could not care about at all. Life is good right now. Have a good flight, has your instructor allowed you to leave the patten yet.

April 27th, 2006, 11:41	#97
CapnJim Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: G-town, Near D-town. In T-state... er... whatever Posts: 4,499	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... pwn7! Love ya Max! Um, er.... not in that way... but... you know... Love ya Max!

April 27th, 2006, 11:46	#98
SFLAX Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On the Road Posts: 177	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... As oppossed to the fake ones, like the ones you play on the computer. Capn Jim, nice retard comment. Was it hard when you found out that the small bus only took you to school and not the other kids. Offended, come on Jim, offend me you could not ever get close.

April 27th, 2006, 11:56	#100
CapnJim Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: G-town, Near D-town. In T-state... er... whatever Posts: 4,499	Re: Avoiding the Regionals... Yeah, I'm done. There's nothing more to say that wouldn't seem, well, Lav-worthy. I think it's justice enough that he came here to rile us up, and instead was himself riled.

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