How important is an aviation degree?

foretwoone · April 24th, 2006, 23:08

Im considering doin a Bachelors in criminal justice next year at my local community college, is it necessary to have an aviation degree, or will i get hired with my ratings and a B.A in a random field? Also, is it vital that i get an MEI or is a CFII sufficient?

Champcar · April 24th, 2006, 23:09

They dont give a rats behind what your degree is, just the fact that you have one. Thats it, simple.

Alchemy · April 24th, 2006, 23:11

Why not be a cop if you have a degree in criminal justice? Cops in my city start off at 50 grand per year and move up from there. It will take you almost a decade to begin making that much in aviation. Also, you could possibly look into flying for the force if you get hired in a major city that has an aviation branch of the PD. That would be the way to go IMO.

scoobs · April 24th, 2006, 23:12

Being a cop sucks. Thats why. And if you stay out of the regionals you can make 50K in less then a decade.

Chris_Ford · April 24th, 2006, 23:14

Don't get an aviation degree.

lalalalalala

Champcar · April 24th, 2006, 23:15

Don't listen to him, hes got cash.

Kristie · April 25th, 2006, 01:08

There have been a lot of discussions on this topic.. have you done a search and or checked out the "hot topic" forum?

frog_flyer · April 25th, 2006, 01:16

jesus this comes up every day.

every day its the same.

get your major in something else.

im so pissed off the stars lost im about to run my head through a wall

Doug Taylor · April 25th, 2006, 01:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by foretwoone

is it necessary to have an aviation degree

NO

SoFlo · April 25th, 2006, 01:17

I have a degree in Criminal Justice. Go for it. Law Enforcement is always looking for people and I almost went for a profession in five-o. The money is there. My vote says do it.

bwade210 · April 25th, 2006, 01:32

It's not.....learn from my mistake and get something completely different. I went to a different school than some of my best friends and in the end, I would be in the same position I am now, had I gone to their college!

Timbuff10 · April 25th, 2006, 01:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by frog_flyer

im so pissed off the stars lost im about to run my head through a wall

sweeeeeeeeeeep

Avs baby!

Tim · April 25th, 2006, 02:09

Get a degree in something. Hell basketweaving would be fine. Just get the paper

Doug Taylor · April 25th, 2006, 02:46

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Originally Posted by Tim

Get a degree in something. Hell basketweaving would be fine. Just get the paper

True.

However, I'd suggest getting a degree in your second career choice. if I had studied computer science, I could crank out projects a lot faster rather than spending days googling crap and posting questions on forums based in Chechnya on how to do things.

Tim · April 25th, 2006, 03:00

You could have been a manager at Mo better chicken

khysanth · April 25th, 2006, 03:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by frog_flyer

jesus this comes up every day.

every day its the same.

get your major in something else.

im so pissed off the stars lost im about to run my head through a wall

This does not come up everyday, no need to be so dramatic. It's maybe once every few weeks.

mastermags · April 25th, 2006, 11:08

another.

mhcasey · April 25th, 2006, 11:14

I also am pissed off that the Stars lost.

jtrain609 · April 25th, 2006, 11:17

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Originally Posted by khysanth

This does not come up everyday, no need to be so dramatic. It's maybe once every few weeks.

It comes up more often than that, once you spend a little more time around these parts you'll realize that. When some of the folks that have been here for a few years are literally answering this question for the 300th time, we start saying "USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION" or the beautiful new "Hot Topics" section.

foretwoone · April 25th, 2006, 20:51

Lol, i used the search but its sometimes hard to get a topic with the answer you need. Anyway thanks all. Good info here, i think thats what i'll do, get a degree at a local school, but i just need to find an fbo nearby, which right now seems unlikely.

Chris_Ford · April 25th, 2006, 20:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by foretwoone

Lol, i used the search but its sometimes hard to get a topic with the answer you need. Anyway thanks all. Good info here, i think thats what i'll do, get a degree at a local school, but i just need to find an fbo nearby, which right now seems unlikely.

Where do you live?

foretwoone · April 26th, 2006, 00:09

Im in lower NY, theres alot of schools in New Jersey and in the lower states, but NY has very few, prob because of 9/11. The nearest one is 30 minutes away, so i'll end up paying for it big time in gas.
Just out of curiosity where would you guys cut the limit on a ppl cert fee, $5000 or more around $8000?

jtrain609 · April 26th, 2006, 00:44

More like $8,000. My FBO quotes $5,000, but it's a crap shoot between $5,000 and $8,000. I've got one student that'll do it in UNDER $5,000, but one that's going to blow through that.

bLizZuE · April 26th, 2006, 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

NO

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B767Driver · April 26th, 2006, 09:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by foretwoone

Im considering doin a Bachelors in criminal justice next year at my local community college, is it necessary to have an aviation degree, or will i get hired with my ratings and a B.A in a random field? Also, is it vital that i get an MEI or is a CFII sufficient?

Some of the reputable university aviation programs do provide an outstanding foundation in the education of a pilot. Some will offer a two year associate degree program...where essentially you earn your certification through commercial pilot.

At my airline they did not start hiring civilian pilots in any substantial numbers until the mid '90s. Part of this reason was that the company felt that they could not substantiate the pilot applicant's quality of training. Military trained pilots were a known quantity...and everyone knows exactly what level of proficiency was attained during initial pilot training. If a civilian pilot earned his/her ratings down at the FBO...well...who knows what kind of training they were getting. Could've been good...could've been poor...who knows?

Learning to fly at a reputable school eliminates some of the guesswork for the airline hiring department as to what type of education an applicant received while learning to fly.

I think some airlines will view a university aviation degree in a favorable light. When I interviewed at Delta...it seemed to be a positive part of the interview.

Having said that...I don't think the aviation degree will make you or break you in the industry. It may provide a slight edge during a job interview.

More importantly...for an individual...is to educate/prepare yourself for a career outside/alongside aviation. Even if all you want to do is work in aviation...there is a good chance over the next 40 years that your employment in aviation will be temporarily or permanently interrupted. So be prepared for that interruption.

Intellectually, an aviation degree is very manageable. It will take some dedication to complete...and everyone learns to fly at a somewhat different pace. I might suggest enrolling in a 2 year aviation degree program to earn those certificates...and concurrently earning a 4 year degree in a less specialized discipline.

As with all education...make sure it is preparing you for success. There's a lot of educated derelicts out there. A college degree does not automatically prepare you for a career. That's your job...to ensure that the degree is preparing you to meet your future objectives.

April 24th, 2006, 23:08	#1
foretwoone Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31	How important is an aviation degree? Im considering doin a Bachelors in criminal justice next year at my local community college, is it necessary to have an aviation degree, or will i get hired with my ratings and a B.A in a random field? Also, is it vital that i get an MEI or is a CFII sufficient? __________________ <!-- Copied from MySpace.com --> <a href="<A href="http://www.myspace.com/nyflyguy">Find">http://www.myspace.com/nyflyguy">Find me on MySpace and be my friend!</a>

April 24th, 2006, 23:09	#2
Champcar Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: KROC Posts: 2,245	Re: How important is an aviation degree? They dont give a rats behind what your degree is, just the fact that you have one. Thats it, simple. __________________ Commercial Single/Multi Instrument IGI

April 24th, 2006, 23:11	#3
Alchemy Old Skool Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 1,845	Re: How important is an aviation degree? Why not be a cop if you have a degree in criminal justice? Cops in my city start off at 50 grand per year and move up from there. It will take you almost a decade to begin making that much in aviation. Also, you could possibly look into flying for the force if you get hired in a major city that has an aviation branch of the PD. That would be the way to go IMO.

April 24th, 2006, 23:12	#4
scoobs Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 678	Re: How important is an aviation degree? Being a cop sucks. Thats why. And if you stay out of the regionals you can make 50K in less then a decade.

April 24th, 2006, 23:14	#5
Chris_Ford Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,329	Re: How important is an aviation degree? Don't get an aviation degree. lalalalalala

April 24th, 2006, 23:15	#6
Champcar Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: KROC Posts: 2,245	Re: How important is an aviation degree? Don't listen to him, hes got cash. __________________ Commercial Single/Multi Instrument IGI

April 25th, 2006, 01:08	#7
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 19,291 Blog Entries: 3	Re: How important is an aviation degree? There have been a lot of discussions on this topic.. have you done a search and or checked out the "hot topic" forum? __________________ Wife of a Delta B767 ER F/O jetgirls.net

April 25th, 2006, 01:16	#8
frog_flyer Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: FTW Posts: 4,092	Re: How important is an aviation degree? jesus this comes up every day. every day its the same. get your major in something else. im so pissed off the stars lost im about to run my head through a wall __________________ "There needs to be more drinking here on JC. We need more ******* partying!" -Doug Taylor 260TT 25 ME

April 25th, 2006, 01:17	#10
SoFlo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Florida Posts: 703	Re: How important is an aviation degree? I have a degree in Criminal Justice. Go for it. Law Enforcement is always looking for people and I almost went for a profession in five-o. The money is there. My vote says do it.

April 25th, 2006, 01:32	#11
bwade210 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KSAT & K1T7 Posts: 474	Re: How important is an aviation degree? It's not.....learn from my mistake and get something completely different. I went to a different school than some of my best friends and in the end, I would be in the same position I am now, had I gone to their college! __________________ "Failure to prepare, is preparing to fail!"

April 25th, 2006, 02:09	#13
Tim Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,205	Re: How important is an aviation degree? Get a degree in something. Hell basketweaving would be fine. Just get the paper __________________ Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turn skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.----- Leonardo Da Vinci

April 25th, 2006, 03:00	#15
Tim Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,205	Re: How important is an aviation degree? You could have been a manager at Mo better chicken __________________ Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turn skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.----- Leonardo Da Vinci

April 25th, 2006, 11:08	#17
mastermags Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 1,311	Re: How important is an aviation degree? another. __________________ http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mastermags2/ If you are racist, I will invade you with the North. CFI, CFII, MEI, CRJ-700 FO, humanitarian

April 25th, 2006, 11:14	#18
mhcasey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 553	Re: How important is an aviation degree? I also am pissed off that the Stars lost.

April 25th, 2006, 20:51	#20
foretwoone Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31	Re: How important is an aviation degree? Lol, i used the search but its sometimes hard to get a topic with the answer you need. Anyway thanks all. Good info here, i think thats what i'll do, get a degree at a local school, but i just need to find an fbo nearby, which right now seems unlikely. __________________ <!-- Copied from MySpace.com --> <a href="<A href="http://www.myspace.com/nyflyguy">Find">http://www.myspace.com/nyflyguy">Find me on MySpace and be my friend!</a>

April 26th, 2006, 00:09	#22
foretwoone Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 31	Re: How important is an aviation degree? Im in lower NY, theres alot of schools in New Jersey and in the lower states, but NY has very few, prob because of 9/11. The nearest one is 30 minutes away, so i'll end up paying for it big time in gas. Just out of curiosity where would you guys cut the limit on a ppl cert fee, $5000 or more around $8000? __________________ <!-- Copied from MySpace.com --> <a href="<A href="http://www.myspace.com/nyflyguy">Find">http://www.myspace.com/nyflyguy">Find me on MySpace and be my friend!</a>

April 26th, 2006, 00:44	#23
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Re: How important is an aviation degree? More like $8,000. My FBO quotes $5,000, but it's a crap shoot between $5,000 and $8,000. I've got one student that'll do it in UNDER $5,000, but one that's going to blow through that. __________________ "Jetlink 2940, on another radio, contact clearance for new airways..."

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