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| Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul
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| Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ
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Maybe we can find a way to recall the "leaders" at ALPA National, too.
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| Agent Smith |
Good luck to them. It's exceptionally difficult to recall an elected official. We tried to can ours in SLC a few months ago, but they were certainly clever.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul
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More from Star Tribune (http://www.startribune.com/1778/story/390789.html -- registration site): Quote:
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| Big Chief's Woman |
I wonder why the negotiating committee is using the pension as ammunition? most pilots already know that pensions are gone...it's not really a bargaining chip anymore... IMO, it shouldn't be "between" pension and TA... it should be both pension and TA...but we know pensions are more than likely gone...so since that's the case, the effort should be going to the TA. |
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| Old Skool |
Looks like he survived the re-call. Turns out the MEC decided unanimously that it was better to show a united front in the face of the TA. Quote:
Now it looks like McClain is going to fight to get government legislation to protect pensions. Day late and a dollar (or five) short if you ask me. By the time he gets it pushed through (if he does) there won't be more than one or two pension plans left to protect.....
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| Big Chief's Woman | Quote:
![]() it doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever to keep someone in the MEC who obviously is not going for the best possible results FOR the pilots...united front or not.. there is none at the moment and they need to get someone in there that will help patch the "united" and put the front back in "front"... | |
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| Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul
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Kellwolf may have better insight on this than me, but I think there is a very signficant split between older and younger pilots on ratification. NWA is still dangling the pension carrot, promising to keep the pilot pension plan if about a dozen things all happen (including pilot ratification and the pension legislation). The older pilots (IMHO) are willing to do just about anything, including accept pay reductions, to hang on to pension benefits (which may be worth literally millions to senior pilots). The younger pilots, who either see the writing on the wall or see that pensions are 30 years away -- pay cuts are now, are not so willing to take a pay cut to save the pension plan. My guess is it gets uglier at NWA before it gets better. MF
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| Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia
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See Minnesota_Flyer's post above for an excellent example of potential dichotomy in contract negotiations.
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