Definition of a Full Stop Landing

uvscaviator · April 10th, 2006, 22:24

In the private pilot requirements it states:
One solo cross-country flight of at least 150 NM total distance, with full-stop landings at a minimum of three points and with one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 50 NM between the takeoff and landing locations.

What is the definition of a full stop landing in these circumstances? Does the engine have to be shut down or just come to a complete stop?

Thanks

Chris_Ford · April 10th, 2006, 22:26

Just come to a complete stop... There's always the "touch the brakes" method of full stop.

uvscaviator · April 10th, 2006, 22:29

So is a Stop and Go considered a full stop in the FAA's eyes?

ComplexHiAv8r · April 10th, 2006, 22:37

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Originally Posted by uvscaviator

So is a Stop and Go considered a full stop in the FAA's eyes?

I was always told a complete stop and exit runway. Then taxi back to the runway for another flight. Not sure on ruling, could of just been policy of flight school to pad hobbs times.

Did I say that outloud??

Timbuff10 · April 10th, 2006, 23:16

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Originally Posted by ComplexHiAv8r

I was always told a complete stop and exit runway. Then taxi back to the runway for another flight. Not sure on ruling, could of just been policy of flight school to pad hobbs times.

Did I say that outloud??

That would be a way for the school to make some more money. Depending on the runway length, it may be a safety issue at that particular airport though.

A stop and go is a full stop.

Mr_Creepy · April 10th, 2006, 23:47

Stop & go = Full Stop Landing

desertdog71 · April 11th, 2006, 01:00

Do a short field landing to a full stop followed by a short field takeoff.

From what I was told. Land, taxi back and takeoff. Simple as that.

For that matter if you did touch and go's I doubt the FAA full stop police will be present to record your landings and slam you later.

I think the land, taxi back and takeoff will satisfy both the feds and a guilty conscience.

Timbuff10 · April 11th, 2006, 01:16

Yeah, during my solos I did full stop taxi backs and even stopped for lunch at one of my airports. I figured I needed the time anyway so I may as well get credit for taxiing around and doing an extra runup on my solo.

sorrygottarunway · April 11th, 2006, 01:40

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Originally Posted by Timbuff10

Yeah, during my solos I did full stop taxi backs and even stopped for lunch at one of my airports. I figured I needed the time anyway so I may as well get credit for taxiing around and doing an extra runup on my solo.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who planned all his solos around FOOD!

mastermags · April 11th, 2006, 01:41

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Originally Posted by desertdog71

I think the land, taxi back and takeoff will satisfy both the feds and a guilty conscience.

I don't know about you, but I've got a lot more conscience than money. A stop and go is a full stop.

Timbuff10 · April 11th, 2006, 02:25

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Originally Posted by sorrygottarunway

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who planned all his solos around FOOD!

says the guy with the chef in his little picture dealy over there on the left

Timbuff10 · April 11th, 2006, 02:28

I talked to an old timer a while back that told me the "full stop" originated from back in the day when most planes were tail draggers. He said it was easy to get the front wheels on the ground but the mains were the tough part, thus the "full stop" was born. It just kinda stuck ever since then.

Good stuff huh?

MidlifeFlyer · April 11th, 2006, 09:12

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Originally Posted by Mr_Creepy

Stop & go = Full Stop Landing

You bet. There is such a thing as overanalysis (although the FAR does seem to invite it). Full stop simply means the wheels stop rolling - just like you're supposed to do in your car at a stop sign.

JaceTheAce · April 11th, 2006, 13:56

Except when you're from California, you do the "California Stop" hehehe

mastermags · April 11th, 2006, 14:10

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Originally Posted by JaceTheAce

Except when you're from California, you do the "California Stop" hehehe

And what would that be?

Chris_Ford · April 11th, 2006, 14:19

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Originally Posted by mastermags

And what would that be?

Light up the brake lights, look both ways, go. Note that "stop" is nowhere in that sequence.

April 10th, 2006, 22:24	#1
uvscaviator Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 44	Definition of a Full Stop Landing In the private pilot requirements it states: One solo cross-country flight of at least 150 NM total distance, with full-stop landings at a minimum of three points and with one segment of the flight consisting of a straight-line distance of at least 50 NM between the takeoff and landing locations. What is the definition of a full stop landing in these circumstances? Does the engine have to be shut down or just come to a complete stop? Thanks

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April 11th, 2006, 01:00	#7
desertdog71 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: KIDP/KCNU Posts: 3,008	Do a short field landing to a full stop followed by a short field takeoff. From what I was told. Land, taxi back and takeoff. Simple as that. For that matter if you did touch and go's I doubt the FAA full stop police will be present to record your landings and slam you later. I think the land, taxi back and takeoff will satisfy both the feds and a guilty conscience. __________________ www.flywhiteair.com http://www.myspace.com/desertdog71 Following message is for SkyCougar. Took my chances on a big jet plane, Never let them tell you that they're all the same.

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Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	Yeah, during my solos I did full stop taxi backs and even stopped for lunch at one of my airports. I figured I needed the time anyway so I may as well get credit for taxiing around and doing an extra runup on my solo. __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

April 11th, 2006, 02:28	#12
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	I talked to an old timer a while back that told me the "full stop" originated from back in the day when most planes were tail draggers. He said it was easy to get the front wheels on the ground but the mains were the tough part, thus the "full stop" was born. It just kinda stuck ever since then. Good stuff huh? __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

April 10th, 2006, 22:26	#2
Chris_Ford Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,329	Just come to a complete stop... There's always the "touch the brakes" method of full stop.

April 10th, 2006, 22:29	#3
uvscaviator Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 44	So is a Stop and Go considered a full stop in the FAA's eyes?

April 11th, 2006, 13:56	#14
JaceTheAce Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego Posts: 7,544	Except when you're from California, you do the "California Stop" hehehe __________________ "Time spent flying is not deducted from one's lifespan." Join the Impact - Protest Prop 8 on November 15th!

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