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April 6th, 2006, 16:47
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Ok here is my rant for the day. After having my coffee in the morning I set out to shovel 4 inches of the wettest heaviest snow I have ever seen in my life. After I had worked my @#$ off for an hour I noticed my new next door neighbor wondering out to introduce himself. After some kind pleasantries, and of course a short talk about the LDS church, he proceeded to fire off about them dam over paid pilots. After several deep breaths I gathered my thoughts and pointed out the typical parts of the story that most lay people are unaware of. After I had finished my short dissertation of the lesser known facts, he simply ranted on about how taking a pay cut still left pilots making somewhat near the same as doctors. (I must have missed the memo on how doctors have become the national benchmark of pay) So I tried to proceed with some other thoughts on the subject, leaving my emotions aside. (Per B757Driver great advice) (See strike yourself out of a job thread post #43) I found myself at a loss; I could not persuade the misinformed gentlemen to even consider another point of view. However I did have a sort of epiphany, due to the complete lack of information outlets to the public on the labor side of the issue, it is up to us to be the representatives of our profession. Pretty striking that I just barley figured that out hu.. Any how, as representatives a bit more structured approach is necessary. Although opinions have been expressed on this board, I believe that we need to send a uniformly clear message about the pilot’s side of the issue. Any thoughts about how to accomplish this, any advice on how convey our message as a larger group? Dose anyone care that the public views pilots the way that they do? SO I SAY United we stand divided we fall, this is a modern day call to arms to defend our profession……... That’s all I’ve got, anyone else
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April 6th, 2006, 17:00
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Well, we are in the United States, so the only real way to get anything across is to make a movie, a good movie at that, a blockbuster, to show the pilot's side of things. Or a couple movies, maybe a comedy about a group of underpaid awesome, fun-loving people (very Ski School/Old School esque) working at regional airlines, a drama about the "heavy" issues of the business... The fact is, the public is too lazy to search for the truth themselves, they just sit there and let the media spoon-feed them crap and they take it as truth. Movies are the only way to go.
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April 6th, 2006, 17:07
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that's a pretty darn good idea actually! either that or I'm thinking a reality show! haha
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April 6th, 2006, 17:13
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April 6th, 2006, 17:14
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The Adventures of Doug, and don't even think of suggesting a bedroom scene
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April 6th, 2006, 17:26
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April 6th, 2006, 18:49
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April 6th, 2006, 19:01
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April 6th, 2006, 20:27
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Here's a couple easy counters to the doc vs pilot argument: Doctors hold one life in their hands at a time; pilots may hold up to 600. An airline captain's "internship/residency" is as long or longer than a doctor's. Which has more risk: visiting a doctor's office or being hurtled through the -55 deg C atmosphere at 500 mph?
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April 6th, 2006, 21:20
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April 6th, 2006, 22:43
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April 7th, 2006, 01:37
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So glad you're on our side, Chris. So glad. 
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April 7th, 2006, 04:25
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April 7th, 2006, 04:25
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April 7th, 2006, 08:24
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If they do indeed "tell all", that flick won't be positive press for the pilot profession. NWA's pilots acted so unbelievably barbaric toward scabs and their families that I will never seek employment there; I would rather work at Burger King for minimum wage than associate with such people.
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April 7th, 2006, 09:10
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April 7th, 2006, 11:14
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I don't think Redtail is going to be the kind of flick I was talking about. It won't do us any good if only 100,000 or so see it. It can;t be a documentary. It has to be a good, popular hit for it to do any damage. P.S. I just hope in this movie, if they ever make it, they figure out a way to make the artificial horizon move. I hate it when the plane in a movie makes a violent dive or bank and you're in the cockpit, and the horizon is just sitting there perfectly level...
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April 7th, 2006, 16:38
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April 7th, 2006, 16:47
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A proctologist?
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April 7th, 2006, 19:04
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What I can't figure out is what this public information campaign is supposed to accomplish. Does anyone really think that pilot pay is under attack because the general public thinks you make too much? Or that doctors get paid what they do because of what the general public thinks? One thing is for sure. The more effort and resources devoted to "influencing" the public, the lower the public opinion of pilots will be. It's the wrong target. Public opinion had absolutely nothing to do with the high pay and benefits that pilots achieved and it will have absolutely nothing to do with restoring them. On a side note I just realised I agreed with Aloft's post. Time for a beer and quiet reflection.
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