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Old March 18th, 2006, 00:22   #51
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Just curious, have of your guys throughout your career ever had people not taking you seriously about this flying stuff? I guess most people around here don't really see black people flyin' but I dunno..
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I really haven't noticed much difference at all. I've never had a problem.
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Exactly why it cant be ignored and must be spoken on. There are still knuckleheads that think its OK. I gotta admit, I do get a kick out of the subtle racism and classism going on today.
Here's what's scary. They did something where they sent resumes with exactly the same qualifications on them, one set with "black" names and one set with "white" names.

It didn't matter what the company's EEO policy was, it didn't even matter if the hiring manager was black or white.

You wanna guess who got called for interviews more?
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Man, that sucks. Thanks to mom and dad for naming me after my uncle!
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Man, that sucks. Thanks to mom and dad for naming me after my uncle!
I'm in trouble then...
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Like anyone knows what your last name is in this country!

Don't mistake "American Black" with "African"-sounding names! I don't think there's many "La Sheneqwa's" running around Lagos.
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You're right Doug. WHat was I thinking? Ther eis no racism in the airline industry. In fact, Therei s no racism in America. People get ahead based on their merits.This whole business about race is all a phasad made up by radicals. Its a wonderful world we live in. Everything is fair and equal.
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[off-topic]Why would anyone want to do that to their child??[/hijack]
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To the victor goes the spoils, and with knowledge, skill, and some grit (a la ChiSox, although I'm a YANKEE fan!) the goal gets met!
Go Yankees Hometown! I lived in Mount Vernon for a while.
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Just curious, have of your guys throughout your career ever had people not taking you seriously about this flying stuff? I guess most people around here don't really see black people flyin' but I dunno..
I felt that I wasn't taken seriously in the flight training program at the university I attended, but I haven't experienced much negativity so far while CFI'ing.
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No shizzle, I know somebody named "Kashe", and she named her daughters "Dinera" and "Corencee'".

Those girls are screwed forever . . .

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I've had a couple of interesting experiences here in the south. I've been called "colored" a few times to my face, by students or potential students. Once, while discussing some of the long hours and low pay around flight schools, I had a guy comment that "You colored boys are probably used to that kinda thing". Once, around the airport, we were talking about how cool it is to plug an mp3 player or CD player into the audio panel of the SP, and one of the airport locals asked me if it was hard to fly while I listened to Snopp Dog, laughing. That type of stuff.

Now, has race ever held me back in my career? Nope. I've been luckiy enough to deal only with wonderful people so far on the way up, and I'm glad for that. I'm lucky enough to be in an organization where people look beyond the color of your skin, if they even notice that at all.

Racism will hold you back IF YOU LET IT. Or, you can just march over the top of it and come out stronger. To think that racism is non-existent is pure silliness. To think that each negative thing that happens to you is racism - well, that's just as bad.
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You're right Doug. WHat was I thinking? Ther eis no racism in the airline industry. In fact, Therei s no racism in America. People get ahead based on their merits.This whole business about race is all a phasad made up by radicals. Its a wonderful world we live in. Everything is fair and equal.
Whoah nelly! I never said that.

Here's my personal philosophy. When I got into aviation it was (is?!) an extraordinarily competitive business. So I accepted the fact that I was going to have to strive to be more qualified, better, faster, smarter, whatever-er than the next guy in order to succeed in the business.

Is there inequity and racism in the business? Oh I'm sure it's there, but you have to make the decision early on if you're going to look across the landscape of the career and see "walls" and "ceilings" as something to complain about or see them as something to climb over and break through.

And that applies to everyone from all walks of life.
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It may be sounds a little "lame". The line I learned from Movie -"Patch Adam"

Focus on the solution, Do not focus on the problem.
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it has nothing to do with his race and everything to do with his attitude. Just for the simple fact that he brought up he thinks that he is getting overlooked due to his race is rediculous. He more than likely interviewed poorly at one and now his attitude is becomming a self fullfilling prophecy.

Obviously oh boy cant interview well else he would have a job already....plain and simple. I have seen guys with 2 times the amount of time and experience as someone else get dropped because they have poor attitudes and interview poorly over someone with less time but projects the proper attitude.
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