flightinfo.com

braidkid · February 27th, 2003, 13:40

Have any of you guys posted on flightinfo.com and gotten blasted? Geesh, I should know better by now but that's the last time I'm asking anything on there. It's such a shame too because there are so many knowledgable people on there.

Thanks Doug for providing such a good place for us newbies to ask questions and not get blasted. I swear, if any flightinfo hot headed jar heads make their way into jetcareers I'm gonna puke.

I_Money · February 27th, 2003, 13:44

>>I swear, if any flightinfo hot headed jar heads make their way into jetcareers I'm gonna puke.<<

Light Sabers will come and the Jedis will win!

Virusss · February 27th, 2003, 13:48

Yes i myself have seen a lot of hotheads. But it wasnt about posting flying comments it was about mapping. (If you dont know what im talking about click on the link in my signature).

CaliforniaSurfer · February 27th, 2003, 14:34

Also, they take a post and start making the dumbest jokes and run with it for miles.

So you make a post, someone cracks a joke and that thread has 25 replies. You thinking you're getting some good feedback go back to check the thread and it's all just a long joke.

Surf

shooter13 · February 27th, 2003, 15:24

which reminds me...Did you hear the one about... oh sorry

jtrain609 · February 27th, 2003, 15:52

I used to read that place a lot but it became unbearable after September 11th. For a while it turned into constant Arab bashing which I couldn't deal with. Thankfully I found this place! Thanks for providing us with this, Doug!

Cheers

John Herreshoff

flyitup · February 27th, 2003, 18:19

I agree...

Flightinfo has really gone downhill and it is unfortunate because there really are several very knowledgeable members. I don't know what it is about flightinfo and a.net, but I really have no interest in browsing their websites anymore...

flyitup · February 27th, 2003, 18:24

Good lord Braidkid, you got roasted!!

The crap that the moderators allow to take place on that website is ridiculous!

bumflip · February 27th, 2003, 18:38

braidkid · February 27th, 2003, 18:52

Ha, yea, i say everyone on here post some really stupid question and see who can get roasted the worst!!!!

StephenCFI · February 27th, 2003, 19:04

In defense of flightinfo.com, I enjoy their forums as much as jetcareers. (No offense, Doug.) They attract a different crowd - more airline pilots, fewer students. Sure, there are rude people, but it's a big bad world out there. I certainly like the friendliness of jetcareers more!

I used to enjoy reading calforums.com, but they shut their doors to non-CAL pilots a while back, so flightinfo is my only other fix.

I've never like airliners.net. To many posers.

Stephen

aloft · February 27th, 2003, 19:21

Ditto. Having just read the thread in question over there, I think Braidkid gave as good as he got. "We all know of the extreme high times required to gain a regional job in the states..." Huh? It was clear to me that you haven't done your homework. SkyWest is hiring people in the 1500-1800 TT range. When you've got tons of furloughees with 3-5 times that sort of TT, "extreme high times required to gain a regional job" is naturally going to be viewed as flame bait.

mpenguin1 · February 27th, 2003, 19:41

I have had no problems with flightinfo.com or any other site for that matter, we have all been roasted before, on both ends. You can learn plenty from this site as well as other sites.

braidkid · February 27th, 2003, 20:09

Ok, so "extreme" high time was a bit over kill. It's still high time. I know guys with over 2000 hours
who can't get on with a regional. I stated extreme high time required to get on with a regional based
on our current economic situation. I've heard of pilots with under a thousand hours flying big iron in
Europe. A thousand hours difference (to me) is A LOT of time. Must not be much for people on flightinfo or some
people on this board.

Oh and one more thing....Aloft, if you read my smart a$$ reply on flightinfo you would have gathered
that I have done my homework and am very much aware of the rough road to the regionals.
The one downfall of message boards like these are things sometimes don't get fully communicated.

vipermcg · February 27th, 2003, 20:23

In defense of Braidkid, I saw one of the replies he got, and it was downright cruel. The guy called him an a*s hole, for not joining the military or something. This same guy ended his reply by saying "blow me!" I find jetcareers to be the most friendly to all of us "newbies."

flyitup · February 27th, 2003, 20:26

Regardless of what anyone says, there is NO comparison between this website and the other pilot forums... Period.

braidkid · February 27th, 2003, 20:36

Thanks for the backing viper...
I'm wondering if maybe Aloft is one of those flighinfo jar heads in disguise!!!

Haha, just playin with ya Aloft!!!

chunk75 · February 28th, 2003, 00:34

flightinfo is a different crowd with a different purpose. Yes, it can be harsh if you ask questions before doing some research or not realize who the audience is, but it's an invaluable intel resource for those who have already committed to an aviation career. Want to know how to get into the biz? Jetcareers. Want to know what's the deal with all these advertisements for different schools? Jetcareers. If you want to know what the latest gouge is on ASA hiring, flightinfo is probably your best bet.

Yes, people are friendlier here on JC and that is great! Doug has a great board here, and it is *the* premiere site for those starting out and in training.

Chunk

Doug Taylor · February 28th, 2003, 02:39

I dunno, should I start major,regional,corporate forums on the website?

aloft · February 28th, 2003, 02:44

If you build it, they will come. I'd say go for it. ^ visitors = ^ ad revenue.

Parabellum · February 28th, 2003, 02:56

Its always a shame what some people are willing to say when they're hiding behind a computer monitor. My usual response is "Come say that to my face and lets see what a man you really are." I bet in a real life situation that 9 out of 10 wouldn't do it.

There's a cowardly nature that exists among people that like to blow their mouths. I don't know if thats good or bad.

Hootie · February 28th, 2003, 23:33

I really like jetcareers and flightinfo equally. But if I had less than 100 hours I would ask it here first and it should get answered fine. But some topics should get flamed such as.

"yeah, this is my first post and I just got by commercial license. I currently have 230 hours in a c150 and about 22 in a 172rg. I really don't want to flight instruct, do any of you guys know if one of those really small cargo companies like airnet will hire me?"

or

"I just soloed and I was wondering if flying the C5 would be a good way to build time for the airlines. My recruiter says that the AF would kill to get a guy like me who is going on year number 2 in the CAP."

jetcareers has a very nice no flame atmosphere I must say.

BoDEAN · March 2nd, 2003, 17:44

I like both boards also.
One board I "DON'T" like is ilsapproach.

Although there are a few good guys on there, there are a lot of cocky people that just make me want to stay away from there

JediNein · March 3rd, 2003, 10:30

I find flamers on all sites. Some think it's cool to go from message board to message board flaming certain posters. Don't participate for awhile and the flamers will find different targets.

I think it's great for newbies to start asking questions before commitiing to a flight school, a flying career, or the military. This is an essential preflight planning step. FAQs were created on USENET and IRC for this reason. Jetcareers, flightinfo, SPN, and so on need to create their own FAQ and leave them as the top thread in each forum, or as one link at the top of the forum pages. Unlike gardening or dog training, many aviation questions have two or more answers. Therefore the FAQ needs a yes and a no answer (pro/con), or links to the posts that discuss them.

Some starter questions for a FAQ:
Dear flight school manager, I am a CFI/ATP/CPL, can your school give me a job?
I need a scholarship/sponsorship/free flight training course.
I am in X country and want to train in the U.S., can you issue me a VISA?
Should I go to one of those big flight training companies as they say I will get interviewed by a regional/major/cargo/charter airline?
Should I quit my $50,000 a year job and take out $60,000 in loans to attend X academy?
Should I get a degree?
An aviation degree?
A masters degree?
A high school diploma or a GED?
I can't seem to land the airplane and all we are doing is touch and gos, can you help?
My CFI yells at me, is this normal?

There are many more.

Fly SAFE!
Jedi Nein

February 27th, 2003, 13:40	#1
braidkid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 556	flightinfo.com Have any of you guys posted on flightinfo.com and gotten blasted? Geesh, I should know better by now but that's the last time I'm asking anything on there. It's such a shame too because there are so many knowledgable people on there. Thanks Doug for providing such a good place for us newbies to ask questions and not get blasted. I swear, if any flightinfo hot headed jar heads make their way into jetcareers I'm gonna puke.

February 27th, 2003, 13:44	#2
I_Money Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal Posts: 5,691	Re: flightinfo.com >>I swear, if any flightinfo hot headed jar heads make their way into jetcareers I'm gonna puke.<< Light Sabers will come and the Jedis will win!

February 27th, 2003, 13:48	#3
Virusss Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 165	Re: flightinfo.com Yes i myself have seen a lot of hotheads. But it wasnt about posting flying comments it was about mapping. (If you dont know what im talking about click on the link in my signature).

February 27th, 2003, 14:34	#4
CaliforniaSurfer Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: SoCal Posts: 296	Re: flightinfo.com Also, they take a post and start making the dumbest jokes and run with it for miles. So you make a post, someone cracks a joke and that thread has 25 replies. You thinking you're getting some good feedback go back to check the thread and it's all just a long joke. Surf

February 27th, 2003, 15:24	#5
shooter13 Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,952	Re: flightinfo.com which reminds me...Did you hear the one about... oh sorry

February 27th, 2003, 15:52	#6
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,869	Re: flightinfo.com I used to read that place a lot but it became unbearable after September 11th. For a while it turned into constant Arab bashing which I couldn't deal with. Thankfully I found this place! Thanks for providing us with this, Doug! Cheers John Herreshoff

February 27th, 2003, 18:19	#7
flyitup Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 620	Re: flightinfo.com I agree... Flightinfo has really gone downhill and it is unfortunate because there really are several very knowledgeable members. I don't know what it is about flightinfo and a.net, but I really have no interest in browsing their websites anymore...

February 27th, 2003, 18:24	#8
flyitup Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 620	Re: flightinfo.com Good lord Braidkid, you got roasted!! The crap that the moderators allow to take place on that website is ridiculous!

February 27th, 2003, 18:38	#9
bumflip Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Frisco, TX Posts: 314	Post deleted by Doug Taylor

February 27th, 2003, 18:52	#10
braidkid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 556	Re: flightinfo.com Ha, yea, i say everyone on here post some really stupid question and see who can get roasted the worst!!!!

February 27th, 2003, 19:04	#11
StephenCFI Newbie Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 29	Re: flightinfo.com In defense of flightinfo.com, I enjoy their forums as much as jetcareers. (No offense, Doug.) They attract a different crowd - more airline pilots, fewer students. Sure, there are rude people, but it's a big bad world out there. I certainly like the friendliness of jetcareers more! I used to enjoy reading calforums.com, but they shut their doors to non-CAL pilots a while back, so flightinfo is my only other fix. I've never like airliners.net. To many posers. Stephen

February 27th, 2003, 19:21	#12
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,148	Re: flightinfo.com Ditto. Having just read the thread in question over there, I think Braidkid gave as good as he got. "We all know of the extreme high times required to gain a regional job in the states..." Huh? It was clear to me that you haven't done your homework. SkyWest is hiring people in the 1500-1800 TT range. When you've got tons of furloughees with 3-5 times that sort of TT, "extreme high times required to gain a regional job" is naturally going to be viewed as flame bait.

February 27th, 2003, 19:41	#13
mpenguin1 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 10,578 Blog Entries: 5	Re: flightinfo.com I have had no problems with flightinfo.com or any other site for that matter, we have all been roasted before, on both ends. You can learn plenty from this site as well as other sites.

February 27th, 2003, 20:09	#14
braidkid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 556	Re: flightinfo.com Ok, so "extreme" high time was a bit over kill. It's still high time. I know guys with over 2000 hours who can't get on with a regional. I stated extreme high time required to get on with a regional based on our current economic situation. I've heard of pilots with under a thousand hours flying big iron in Europe. A thousand hours difference (to me) is A LOT of time. Must not be much for people on flightinfo or some people on this board. Oh and one more thing....Aloft, if you read my smart a$$ reply on flightinfo you would have gathered that I have done my homework and am very much aware of the rough road to the regionals. The one downfall of message boards like these are things sometimes don't get fully communicated.

February 27th, 2003, 20:23	#15
vipermcg Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York/ West Lafayette, IN Posts: 393	Re: flightinfo.com In defense of Braidkid, I saw one of the replies he got, and it was downright cruel. The guy called him an a*s hole, for not joining the military or something. This same guy ended his reply by saying "blow me!" I find jetcareers to be the most friendly to all of us "newbies."

February 27th, 2003, 20:26	#16
flyitup Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 620	Re: flightinfo.com Regardless of what anyone says, there is NO comparison between this website and the other pilot forums... Period.

February 27th, 2003, 20:36	#17
braidkid Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 556	Re: flightinfo.com Thanks for the backing viper... I'm wondering if maybe Aloft is one of those flighinfo jar heads in disguise!!! Haha, just playin with ya Aloft!!!

February 28th, 2003, 00:34	#18
chunk75 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: FL Posts: 922	Re: flightinfo.com flightinfo is a different crowd with a different purpose. Yes, it can be harsh if you ask questions before doing some research or not realize who the audience is, but it's an invaluable intel resource for those who have already committed to an aviation career. Want to know how to get into the biz? Jetcareers. Want to know what's the deal with all these advertisements for different schools? Jetcareers. If you want to know what the latest gouge is on ASA hiring, flightinfo is probably your best bet. Yes, people are friendlier here on JC and that is great! Doug has a great board here, and it is the premiere site for those starting out and in training. Chunk

February 28th, 2003, 02:39	#19
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,926 Blog Entries: 1	Re: flightinfo.com I dunno, should I start major,regional,corporate forums on the website?

February 28th, 2003, 02:44	#20
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,148	Re: flightinfo.com If you build it, they will come. I'd say go for it. ^ visitors = ^ ad revenue.

February 28th, 2003, 02:56	#21
Parabellum Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 175	Re: flightinfo.com Its always a shame what some people are willing to say when they're hiding behind a computer monitor. My usual response is "Come say that to my face and lets see what a man you really are." I bet in a real life situation that 9 out of 10 wouldn't do it. There's a cowardly nature that exists among people that like to blow their mouths. I don't know if thats good or bad.

February 28th, 2003, 23:33	#22
Hootie Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Zona Posts: 1,206	Re: flightinfo.com I really like jetcareers and flightinfo equally. But if I had less than 100 hours I would ask it here first and it should get answered fine. But some topics should get flamed such as. "yeah, this is my first post and I just got by commercial license. I currently have 230 hours in a c150 and about 22 in a 172rg. I really don't want to flight instruct, do any of you guys know if one of those really small cargo companies like airnet will hire me?" or "I just soloed and I was wondering if flying the C5 would be a good way to build time for the airlines. My recruiter says that the AF would kill to get a guy like me who is going on year number 2 in the CAP." jetcareers has a very nice no flame atmosphere I must say.

March 2nd, 2003, 17:44	#23
BoDEAN Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 284	Re: flightinfo.com I like both boards also. One board I "DON'T" like is ilsapproach. Although there are a few good guys on there, there are a lot of cocky people that just make me want to stay away from there

March 3rd, 2003, 10:30	#24
JediNein Junior Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 119	Re: flightinfo.com I find flamers on all sites. Some think it's cool to go from message board to message board flaming certain posters. Don't participate for awhile and the flamers will find different targets. I think it's great for newbies to start asking questions before commitiing to a flight school, a flying career, or the military. This is an essential preflight planning step. FAQs were created on USENET and IRC for this reason. Jetcareers, flightinfo, SPN, and so on need to create their own FAQ and leave them as the top thread in each forum, or as one link at the top of the forum pages. Unlike gardening or dog training, many aviation questions have two or more answers. Therefore the FAQ needs a yes and a no answer (pro/con), or links to the posts that discuss them. Some starter questions for a FAQ: Dear flight school manager, I am a CFI/ATP/CPL, can your school give me a job? I need a scholarship/sponsorship/free flight training course. I am in X country and want to train in the U.S., can you issue me a VISA? Should I go to one of those big flight training companies as they say I will get interviewed by a regional/major/cargo/charter airline? Should I quit my $50,000 a year job and take out $60,000 in loans to attend X academy? Should I get a degree? An aviation degree? A masters degree? A high school diploma or a GED? I can't seem to land the airplane and all we are doing is touch and gos, can you help? My CFI yells at me, is this normal? There are many more. Fly SAFE! Jedi Nein

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