Bose Headset

ELHarouni · February 22nd, 2006, 22:27

is the bose headset really worth $1200.....and if so how do you think it would work in a Metro?

ian · February 22nd, 2006, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELHarouni

is the bose headset really worth $1200.....and if so how do you think it would work in a Metro?

my friend has one and i am about to buy one myself. he says it is worth every penny. he says that he never has that tired feeling after flying anymore.

ELHarouni · February 22nd, 2006, 22:46

yeah thats what ive heard so far.....

TonyC · February 22nd, 2006, 22:49

It's worth $995.

(Did the price go up?)
.

GreenDayPilot · February 22nd, 2006, 22:55

Whoever got it for $1200 got ripped off!!! hahaha

ELHarouni · February 22nd, 2006, 22:59

thats CDN

AV8TOR · February 22nd, 2006, 23:02

I've had my bose headset for about 10 months now, and they're great, but you have to take care of them, ya have to be gentle with them... I'm so use to pulling them right out by the cord, after I fly and I throw them in my flight bag until I get the aircraft secure....on my last flight I noticed that there are making that noise that sounds like it's getting a short in the mic.

I've got to get a hold of Bose and see what the replacement policy is, but they are great at noise reduction, flying a piston aircraft, as soon as you push the button and turn them on, you can definatley tell the difference. I think I paid about 995 for them

DrBenny · February 22nd, 2006, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELHarouni

is the bose headset really worth $1200.....and if so how do you think it would work in a Metro?

No, but it is worth $1000, which is what most places (including Bose, themselves) sell it for.

Foxcow · February 23rd, 2006, 00:03

Definately worth every penny!

DCApilot2006 · February 23rd, 2006, 00:47

Buy them. You'll be glad you did. I always wait untill the engine is running to push the button. Then it's AHHhhhhhh......

I'd buy them again for sure.

Captain_Bob · February 23rd, 2006, 00:56

I bought mine when I was instructing... It took tons of abuse for 80-100 hours a month in the Seminole... I now use it in the E-145 for 75-90 hours a month and it is still going strong.

It's taken quite a beating going in and out of my flight case and changing planes every other leg or so.

I have had no problems with it and have also found that the batterys lasts significantly longer than advertised. I was getting around 50-60 hours of use in the Seminole, and now I'm getting in excess of 100 hours in the E-145... don't really know why that is other than the fact that the 145 is much quiter in the cockpit than the seminole as thus the headset may not have to work as hard. ? I also do basically the same thing as DCApilot2006 does above... except I wait to turn them on until Takeoff, and then shut them down as I approach the Ramp.

Any way... mine are really scratched up, the cord is no longer straight and true since I wind it up so tightly around the headset before I cram it into my flight case... but it's still going strong for over 2 years now.

Bob

aloft · February 23rd, 2006, 02:03

There are less-expensive, as-effective, better-built alternatives to the Bose X in the market. Anyone considering dropping that kind of coin should, at the very least, demo the David Clark H10-13X and the Telex Stratus 50-D in addition to the Bose.

I own the DC H10-13XL and while the Bose is more comfortable, the DC's ANR equals the Bose IMHO, and is superior in every other respect (built quality, cost, durability, manufacturer support, to name a few of the important ones).

jtrain609 · February 23rd, 2006, 08:23

Lightspeed's. I'll let ya'll know how they hold up at the end of the summer.

greaper007 · February 23rd, 2006, 08:39

Does anyone use the Stratus 50-D? I haven't been able to find somewhere that demo's them locally. It seems like a better product than the bose.

TXaviator · February 23rd, 2006, 11:08

speaking generally for Bose's other audio products... they are a lot of hype, good marketing, and a mediocre product.

/2 cents
//havent tried the headset but their track record on other audio gear speaks volumes

wheelsup · February 23rd, 2006, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by ELHarouni

is the bose headset really worth $1200.....and if so how do you think it would work in a Metro?

I was fortunate enough to work at a school where I got to try many different headsets. From the BOSE X to the Flight Comm Denali (sp?) and stratus, ANR DC's, all versions of lightspeeds (20XL, 25XL, 20-3G, 30-3G, etc.).

For smaller piston singles - my NON ANR DC's (13.4) were satisfactory. While some of the ANR headsets were lighter, then noise reduction was the same or sometimes less than my DC's. If you don't fly more then a few hours a day, IMO the BOSE aren't worth the expense.

For larger (ie 6 cylinder) pistons - the ANR started to make a difference. The biggest difference, though, was over time, the BOSE X's are so much less fatiguing compared to the other headsets.

For piston twins - the ANR was a HUGE difference. I ended up buying the lightspeed 25XL's for $350. I had the opportunity to try some BOSE X's a few times, and if I had tried them side by side before purchasing the lightspeeds, I would have found the $$ for the BOSE X. Not only do they reduce more noise, but they also have much clearer ATC transmissions. Sitting in the baron when I turned the BOSE X's on, I had to look out the window to check if the engines were running (this was at idle, however). They were extremely quiet.

The turboprops - again the BOSE wins out. I tried them sitting in the back of a 1900 one day and was amazed. Flying 5,6,7 hours a day they are 10X more comfortable then my lightspeeds and DC's ever were.

For jets - doesn't really make a huge difference. I tried the BOSE X, lightspeed 25XL, and DC 13.4, as well as the BOSE Quiet Comfort 2's, the Telex 750 with earplugs, and the biggest thing for me is comfort. The ANR headsets actually reduce less noise then the PNR headsets because most of the noise in the CRJ is windnoise.

I'd say if you plan on flying the metro for a good chunk of time, invest in the BOSE X's.

mrivc211 · February 23rd, 2006, 11:43

I started to fly the brasilia with my standard 13.4's. I couldnt tell how loud it was until I bought the bose X's. I don't know why I didn't go deaf. It's been one year to the day and I am glad I spent every penny. Well worth $995 for your hearing. It definetely helps to reduce fatigue. You dont feel as tired at the end of the day. I think your next step would be setting up a inflatable autopilot in that metro!

Ralgha · February 23rd, 2006, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by aloft

I own the DC H10-13XL and while the Bose is more comfortable, the DC's ANR equals the Bose IMHO, and is superior in every other respect (built quality, cost, durability, manufacturer support, to name a few of the important ones).

DC's build is different, not better. Bose build quality is excellent, it's just not built to survive being dropped out of a plane at 5000 feet. I haven't had a single problem with my Bose, doesn't even show any wear after a year. Of course I actually show a little bit of care for my headset, which a lot of people seem to think is crazy. The DC's definatly cost less, however in terms of value they even out (paying for the name in both cases). Durability, yeah DC wins, but not by THAT much. Show a little care for it and the Bose is fine. DC's manufacturer support is no better than Bose. It's commonly thought that DC has the best, which it simply doesn't anymore. Most headset manufactureres have about the same level of customer service these days.

Gonzo · February 23rd, 2006, 12:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXaviator

speaking generally for Bose's other audio products... they are a lot of hype, good marketing, and a mediocre product.

/2 cents
//havent tried the headset but their track record on other audio gear speaks volumes

You're being nice; I would rather watch a movie with no sound then listen to it through Bose products. Having said that I switched from the top-of-the-line DC's and can not believe how much quieter, less fatiguing the Bose X are.

TXaviator · February 23rd, 2006, 13:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo

You're being nice; I would rather watch a movie with no sound then listen to it through Bose products.

thats the damn truth. sounds like beating on a piece of tinfoil.

Gonzo · February 23rd, 2006, 13:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXaviator

thats the damn truth. sounds like beating on a piece of tinfoil.

Their problem is all they do is make a midrange speaker that is amplified through a transmission line enclosure, and then advertise it as a 4 inch driver that can deliver bass response which it is physically impossible to do.

TheFlyingTurkey · February 23rd, 2006, 13:39

I have a pair of Bose, and they are great.
I have a pair of DC H10 13.4 that are also great.
I have a pair of Telex 750's I use in the Dash 8 because we dont use the intercom, and the flight deck is pretty quiet.

Its all personal preference.

JaceTheAce · February 23rd, 2006, 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by TXaviator

speaking generally for Bose's other audio products... they are a lot of hype, good marketing, and a mediocre product.

/2 cents
//havent tried the headset but their track record on other audio gear speaks volumes

Jeremy I'm glad you too know about this (well, due to the fact that you know quite a bit about audio/music)... I've made several long rants about Bose even on this forum. I love to educate n00bs that go on the Audioholics and Audio/Video Science message boards about Bose - I usually convince them and they move on better home audio products.

Bottom line is Ignorance is Bliss - this is why Bose continues to be so successful as their aggressive marketing is so persuasive that even when people find out the truth behind the quality of Bose (or lack thereof) they continue to buy their overpriced products. Additionally, due to the fact that American consumers buy products that will bring them pride of ownership by hearing other people say "Oh wow, you have a Bose system?!" is just in itself another reason why people are so ignorant.

I recommend everyone to read this write-up on Bose:
http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

Aero_Engineer · February 23rd, 2006, 16:25

My former instructor has Bose headsets, but he told me to go ahead and buy the expensive DC ones that have noise cancelling capability. He said bose is very Fragile and no one can ever bit DC customer service. So I am actually saving my money for the DC ones.
By the way he flies for Ameriflight now and last time I talked to him, he said flying cargo is not the best enviornment for those expensive headsets.

aloft · February 23rd, 2006, 17:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralgha

DC's build is different, not better. Bose build quality is excellent, it's just not built to survive being dropped out of a plane at 5000 feet.

Dude, the Bose isn't built to survive being dropped out of a plane sitting on the ramp.

February 22nd, 2006, 22:27	#1
ELHarouni Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 24	Bose Headset is the bose headset really worth $1200.....and if so how do you think it would work in a Metro?

February 22nd, 2006, 22:49	#4
TonyC Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,648	It's worth $995. (Did the price go up?) . __________________ <~ Tony C ~> The truth only hurts if it should.

February 22nd, 2006, 22:55	#5
GreenDayPilot Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 905	Whoever got it for $1200 got ripped off!!! hahaha __________________ "Love, Fly, Live, and Die"

February 23rd, 2006, 00:03	#9
Foxcow Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,046	Definately worth every penny! __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell

February 23rd, 2006, 00:47	#10
DCApilot2006 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: sanford Posts: 101	Buy them. You'll be glad you did. I always wait untill the engine is running to push the button. Then it's AHHhhhhhh...... I'd buy them again for sure. __________________ Want to make a fortune? Bill your students 54bucks an hour and pay your slave instructors 11.50 an hour!

February 22nd, 2006, 22:46	#3
ELHarouni Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 24	yeah thats what ive heard so far.....

February 22nd, 2006, 22:59	#6
ELHarouni Newbie Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 24	thats CDN

February 22nd, 2006, 23:02	#7
AV8TOR Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 140	I've had my bose headset for about 10 months now, and they're great, but you have to take care of them, ya have to be gentle with them... I'm so use to pulling them right out by the cord, after I fly and I throw them in my flight bag until I get the aircraft secure....on my last flight I noticed that there are making that noise that sounds like it's getting a short in the mic. I've got to get a hold of Bose and see what the replacement policy is, but they are great at noise reduction, flying a piston aircraft, as soon as you push the button and turn them on, you can definatley tell the difference. I think I paid about 995 for them

February 23rd, 2006, 00:56	#11
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,861	I bought mine when I was instructing... It took tons of abuse for 80-100 hours a month in the Seminole... I now use it in the E-145 for 75-90 hours a month and it is still going strong. It's taken quite a beating going in and out of my flight case and changing planes every other leg or so. I have had no problems with it and have also found that the batterys lasts significantly longer than advertised. I was getting around 50-60 hours of use in the Seminole, and now I'm getting in excess of 100 hours in the E-145... don't really know why that is other than the fact that the 145 is much quiter in the cockpit than the seminole as thus the headset may not have to work as hard. ? I also do basically the same thing as DCApilot2006 does above... except I wait to turn them on until Takeoff, and then shut them down as I approach the Ramp. Any way... mine are really scratched up, the cord is no longer straight and true since I wind it up so tightly around the headset before I cram it into my flight case... but it's still going strong for over 2 years now. Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

February 23rd, 2006, 02:03	#12
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 6,778	There are less-expensive, as-effective, better-built alternatives to the Bose X in the market. Anyone considering dropping that kind of coin should, at the very least, demo the David Clark H10-13X and the Telex Stratus 50-D in addition to the Bose. I own the DC H10-13XL and while the Bose is more comfortable, the DC's ANR equals the Bose IMHO, and is superior in every other respect (built quality, cost, durability, manufacturer support, to name a few of the important ones). __________________ Commercial Pilot, ASEL/AMEL/IA 900+ TT/25 ME Mountain-qualified Search & Rescue/Disaster Relief Mission Pilot, Civil Air Patrol B.S., Psychology, Univ of Utah

February 23rd, 2006, 08:23	#13
jtrain609 Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Park City, UT Posts: 12,289	Lightspeed's. I'll let ya'll know how they hold up at the end of the summer. __________________

February 23rd, 2006, 08:39	#14
greaper007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Hartford, Ct Posts: 1,056	Does anyone use the Stratus 50-D? I haven't been able to find somewhere that demo's them locally. It seems like a better product than the bose. __________________ <<<<<Hunter S. Thompson extends the Gonzo concept to flying.

February 23rd, 2006, 11:08	#15
TXaviator Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Austin, TX / Grand Forks, ND Posts: 2,101	speaking generally for Bose's other audio products... they are a lot of hype, good marketing, and a mediocre product. /2 cents //havent tried the headset but their track record on other audio gear speaks volumes

February 23rd, 2006, 11:43	#17
mrivc211 Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,033	I started to fly the brasilia with my standard 13.4's. I couldnt tell how loud it was until I bought the bose X's. I don't know why I didn't go deaf. It's been one year to the day and I am glad I spent every penny. Well worth $995 for your hearing. It definetely helps to reduce fatigue. You dont feel as tired at the end of the day. I think your next step would be setting up a inflatable autopilot in that metro!

February 23rd, 2006, 16:25	#24
Aero_Engineer Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: California, USA Posts: 2,035	My former instructor has Bose headsets, but he told me to go ahead and buy the expensive DC ones that have noise cancelling capability. He said bose is very Fragile and no one can ever bit DC customer service. So I am actually saving my money for the DC ones. By the way he flies for Ameriflight now and last time I talked to him, he said flying cargo is not the best enviornment for those expensive headsets.

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