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Old January 23rd, 2006, 09:11   #1
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I was talking to a friend of mine who is a Captain for Skywest and he told me that ATP rated pilots have instruction privelages without having a CFI.

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Old January 23rd, 2006, 09:28   #2
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I was talking to a friend of mine who is a Captain for Skywest and he told me that ATP rated pilots have instruction privelages without having a CFI.

Any thougts?
Change that to read "limited instruction privileges" and you'd be on the right track. Someone else can fill in the details. Gotta head out for a flight.


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They can only give instruction towards an ATP rating I belive.
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 10:01   #4
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Essentially, they can give intstruction on 135/121 stuff to company pilots. I don't believe that an ATP could go out and solo a student for the first time at the local flying club.


Different question: I'm about ready to go for my ATP checkride. Do I need a CFI who has passed their ATP to endorse me to go for my ATP ride?
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Essentially, they can give intstruction on 135/121 stuff to company pilots. I don't believe that an ATP could go out and solo a student for the first time at the local flying club.
Correct. Now if you're an acting captain, at their discretion, the FSDO can renew a ATP's CFI certificate. An ATP does NOT have the ability to act as a CFI.


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Different question: I'm about ready to go for my ATP checkride. Do I need a CFI who has passed their ATP to endorse me to go for my ATP ride?
I don't think so. But I could be wrong.
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Essentially, they can give intstruction on 135/121 stuff to company pilots. I don't believe that an ATP could go out and solo a student for the first time at the local flying club.


Different question: I'm about ready to go for my ATP checkride. Do I need a CFI who has passed their ATP to endorse me to go for my ATP ride?
You do not. They can just be a regular CFI.
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Do you even need a CFI endorsement at all if you meet the minimum requirements?
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Old January 23rd, 2006, 11:32   #8
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You do not. They can just be a regular CFI.
This is not correct. You don't need any endorsement from any instructor on a first time attempt for the ATP. You do, however, need a logbook endorsement from an instructor if you are attempting an ATP retake after a failure.
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My check airman that did my Be-1900 type rating/ATP checkride is on the forum, perhaps he'll chime in and kick us down some knowledge!
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Had an old flight isntructor buddy of mine that got his private and instrument from an ATP with no actual CFI/CFII. When the FSDO found out about it they let him keep his certificates since he was a working CFI but the other students who were just private/commercial/instrument had thier certificates revoked.
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No endorsement at all is required to take the ATP practical. Just make sure that you meet the requirements, pass the written, fill out an 8710 and take the test!!!
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No endorsement at all is required to take the ATP practical. Just make sure that you meet the requirements, pass the written, fill out an 8710 and take the test!!!


Ooops, my bad.

61.39 (c) (3).

Looks like I'm okay to take the test without an endorsement. Now, if I could just find what V1 and V2 are in a Duchess... (sarcasm)
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Different question: I'm about ready to go for my ATP checkride. Do I need a CFI who has passed their ATP to endorse me to go for my ATP ride?
ATP pilots can only instruct in company aircraft to company pilots........no one else


as for your ATP checkride, you don't have to do any training or get any endorsement. An examiner that we used at my flight school asked me a question one day and he said, " I owe you one". I said "how bout a discount on a checkride". He had time that day and I had the written done, so I figured what the hell. For 150 bucks, I got it done....not a bad deal.......
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