netjets

KevinT · November 24th, 2005, 00:31

I'm looking for info on where you apply to netjets. I E-mailed them but nobody ever got back to me. I read on a pilot interview that you apply on their website? but I couldn't find a link. anyone know?

NJA_Capt · November 24th, 2005, 00:41

http://netjets.com/News%20and%20Info/careers_pilots.asp

To qualify as a NetJets Aviation (Citation, Hawker, Falcon, Gulfstream 200, Boeing aircraft) pilot candidate you must have the following prerequisites:

Airline Transport Pilot Certificate
Current FAA First Class Medical certificate
2500 hours total pilot time
500 hours fixed wing multi-engine time
250 hours instrument time

NetJets Aviation, Inc.
Attn: Pilot Recruitment
4111 Bridgeway Avenue
Columbus, OH 43219-1882
pilotrecruitment@netjets.com

SharkFisher · November 24th, 2005, 14:15

I don't understand why the Boeing Biz jet is included. In order to qualify for the Gulfstream large cabin (if I am correct, you need to have more qualifications). After all the BBJ flies internationally right? Can someone explain to me how exactly can a netjets pilot go up the ladder? For an example does he start from the Bravo, and then move to the citation, and then Boeing, Gulfstream etc.?

KevinT · November 24th, 2005, 15:13

thanks for that reply. helps alot!

C150J · November 24th, 2005, 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharkFisher

I don't understand why the Boeing Biz jet is included. In order to qualify for the Gulfstream large cabin (if I am correct, you need to have more qualifications). After all the BBJ flies internationally right? Can someone explain to me how exactly can a netjets pilot go up the ladder? For an example does he start from the Bravo, and then move to the citation, and then Boeing, Gulfstream etc.?

I believe that the large-cabin Gulfstreams are operated by a completely seperate division of NetJets:

http://www.jetcareers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15995

NJA_Capt · November 24th, 2005, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharkFisher

I don't understand why the Boeing Biz jet is included. In order to qualify for the Gulfstream large cabin (if I am correct, you need to have more qualifications). After all the BBJ flies internationally right? Can someone explain to me how exactly can a netjets pilot go up the ladder? For an example does he start from the Bravo, and then move to the citation, and then Boeing, Gulfstream etc.?

Keep in mind that NJI (International) is just a name. All NetJets companies fly "internationally." It's not just the G series.

That said, NJI was/is operated as a separate pilot group and was originally set up that way because Gulfstream was a co-owner in the company. The new contracts scope clause allows for flow through of NJA FOs and Capts to the NJI side but does not allow back flow from NJI to NJA. At the end of 3 years we have the right to exercise a "single carrier" suit and have them added to the NJA seniority list.

Currently the only pilots on the BBJ have been here over 15 years, so it isn't a hiring criteria. Newhires go into whichever airplane the company has needs. We have 747-400 capts flying the Ultra and low timers (relatively speaking) in the C750 and Falcon.

GrantHubbell · November 24th, 2005, 20:58

Do most guys at Netjets with a lot of senority usually get the oppertunity to get on with the BBJ? And does anybody know how many BBJs NetJets has?

Happy Thanksgiving!!

NJA_Capt · November 24th, 2005, 21:36

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Originally Posted by GrantHubbell

Do most guys at Netjets with a lot of senority usually get the oppertunity to get on with the BBJ?

Only the top 10 percent will see a BBJ. The junior PIC is #67 and the junior SIC is #159 (out of 2200+ pilots). A newhire today will probably never see a seat in the BBJ.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantHubbell

And does anybody know how many BBJs NetJets has?

Approx 4. Originally ordered 29....until 9/11. Currently looking for a/c with more seating capacity. The BBJ only has 18 seats (and 2 showers).

GrantHubbell · November 25th, 2005, 09:22

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Originally Posted by NJA_Capt

Currently looking for a/c with more seating capacity. The BBJ only has 18 seats (and 2 showers).

What business jet has more seating than that? And what is a jet of comparable size, like the AirbusBJ?

hope you guys had a great thanksgiving!

SharkFisher · November 25th, 2005, 13:54

[quote=GrantHubbell]What business jet has more seating than that? And what is a jet of comparable size, like the AirbusBJ?

Do you mean in the netjets fleet? I believe that the BBJ has the largest seating capacity. Thanks NJA Capt for your reply. By the way, just out of curiosity, if you this post, why do you like working for a company like netjets and why would you continue working for netjets other than going to a major? Pros and cons.

DE727UPS · November 25th, 2005, 15:16

"why would you continue working for netjets other than going to a major?"

Why would you want to go to a major if you could make more, have better stability, and work the same number of days, flying for a fractional? The reason fractionals are doing well is because the folks with the money are getting sick and tired of the poor service with the airlines (anyone ride first class domestic, lately?) and the TSA BS. High end passengers have found a better way and, I think anyway, that's why NJA is doing well. Plus, their pilot group is in a union and they demanded (and deserved) a better contract. You might get to meet some pretty interesting people flying for a fractional.

SharkFisher · November 25th, 2005, 15:20

Thanks DE727UPS. And plus another big advantage is the netjets fleet is just...what's the word I am looking for?

NJA_Capt · November 25th, 2005, 15:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by SharkFisher

...why do you like working for a company like netjets and why would you continue working for netjets other than going to a major? Pros and cons.

Yes, I prefer NJA to the airlines, as do many others. Including many furloughees who say they will never return to the 121 side.
Why I prefer it:
Better Schedule
Better Hotels
Better crew food
No commuting
Collect all the airline miles and hotel points you like
(ex:Took the wife and kids to Caribean last summer with 4 First Class
tickets and a hotel for a week....F-R-E-E)
Better behaved passengers (and fewer of them. ie....1 pax coast to coast)
Better/more destinations
Never the "same old" out and back flights (other than TEB-PBI of course)
12 different aircraft types to suite your mood
When I got hired fast upgrade.....not any more.

and now......decent pay.
(I'll add more as I think of them)

Everyone has there own desires. If a major is your goal, go for it. When I walk through a terminal I am glad I don't have to be in there every day, and have to eat several meals in there every day. What most people don't realize is that by revenue and fleet size we are larger than several "major" airlines. And we are still growing.

DE727UPS · November 25th, 2005, 15:55

"Better crew food"

I was in SJC last week, flying out of Alaska Air. The plane blocks in and next thing I see is the Capt just about sprinting over to the Burrito place to grab his lunch. The F/O was right behind him. I was shaking my head. Even us freight dawgs get crew meals. In the Pac Rim, we even get a menu and the meals are quite good.

"we are larger than several "major" airlines. And we are still growing"

At 2200 pilots, you are only about 400 or 500 behind UPS.

November 24th, 2005, 00:41	#2
NJA_Capt Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Low Earth Orbit Posts: 1,335	http://netjets.com/News%20and%20Info/careers_pilots.asp To qualify as a NetJets Aviation (Citation, Hawker, Falcon, Gulfstream 200, Boeing aircraft) pilot candidate you must have the following prerequisites: Airline Transport Pilot Certificate Current FAA First Class Medical certificate 2500 hours total pilot time 500 hours fixed wing multi-engine time 250 hours instrument time NetJets Aviation, Inc. Attn: Pilot Recruitment 4111 Bridgeway Avenue Columbus, OH 43219-1882 pilotrecruitment@netjets.com

November 24th, 2005, 14:15	#3
SharkFisher Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CH PA Posts: 237	BBJ question I don't understand why the Boeing Biz jet is included. In order to qualify for the Gulfstream large cabin (if I am correct, you need to have more qualifications). After all the BBJ flies internationally right? Can someone explain to me how exactly can a netjets pilot go up the ladder? For an example does he start from the Bravo, and then move to the citation, and then Boeing, Gulfstream etc.?

November 24th, 2005, 20:58	#7
GrantHubbell Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hanger A-10 Posts: 833	Do most guys at Netjets with a lot of senority usually get the oppertunity to get on with the BBJ? And does anybody know how many BBJs NetJets has? Happy Thanksgiving!! __________________ Grant Hubbell "I understand JetU, not to be mistaken with Jetblue, sells a forth seat to Microsoft FS users. They can log NIC (nerd in command) time." -Bob loblaw

November 25th, 2005, 13:54	#10
SharkFisher Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CH PA Posts: 237	thanks for not taking off [quote=GrantHubbell]What business jet has more seating than that? And what is a jet of comparable size, like the AirbusBJ? Do you mean in the netjets fleet? I believe that the BBJ has the largest seating capacity. Thanks NJA Capt for your reply. By the way, just out of curiosity, if you this post, why do you like working for a company like netjets and why would you continue working for netjets other than going to a major? Pros and cons.

November 25th, 2005, 15:20	#12
SharkFisher Junior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CH PA Posts: 237	thanks Thanks DE727UPS. And plus another big advantage is the netjets fleet is just...what's the word I am looking for?

November 24th, 2005, 00:31	#1
KevinT Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 93	netjets I'm looking for info on where you apply to netjets. I E-mailed them but nobody ever got back to me. I read on a pilot interview that you apply on their website? but I couldn't find a link. anyone know?

November 24th, 2005, 15:13	#4
KevinT Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 93	thanks for that reply. helps alot!

November 25th, 2005, 15:16	#11
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,514	"why would you continue working for netjets other than going to a major?" Why would you want to go to a major if you could make more, have better stability, and work the same number of days, flying for a fractional? The reason fractionals are doing well is because the folks with the money are getting sick and tired of the poor service with the airlines (anyone ride first class domestic, lately?) and the TSA BS. High end passengers have found a better way and, I think anyway, that's why NJA is doing well. Plus, their pilot group is in a union and they demanded (and deserved) a better contract. You might get to meet some pretty interesting people flying for a fractional.

November 25th, 2005, 15:55	#14
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,514	"Better crew food" I was in SJC last week, flying out of Alaska Air. The plane blocks in and next thing I see is the Capt just about sprinting over to the Burrito place to grab his lunch. The F/O was right behind him. I was shaking my head. Even us freight dawgs get crew meals. In the Pac Rim, we even get a menu and the meals are quite good. "we are larger than several "major" airlines. And we are still growing" At 2200 pilots, you are only about 400 or 500 behind UPS.

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