CFIs Needed - Page 16

flyguy · July 21st, 2007, 23:12

Multi time comes in waves because the students come in waves and progress through the ratings together. There are times when there are no students working on multi, and times when many of them are. When there are lots of students working on multi, there are also a lot of instructors getting multi time and coincidentaly are reaching airline mins and leaving, which leaves a ton of multi students with no instructor, and also a lot of overworked MEIs who will gladly let you take their studetns for cross countries. That's actually where I got all my multi time, was from students who's instructors left, or who's instructors needed me to help them out. I actually only had 3 Korean students that I started private with. All three of them either left the school, ran out of money, or went to a Korean instructor. I didn't get any multi time from them. After a year and a half out there though, I managed to get over 200 multi hours from picking up students from instructors who left, and by being available on my "time off" to fly cross countries with other students. If you stick around long enough, the multi time will come. That is a promise.

woog315 · July 21st, 2007, 23:58

flyguy, if you dont mind my asking, how many hours did you log in your year and a half there?

flyguy · July 22nd, 2007, 22:43

Well my first 6 months I was just a ground instructor and didn't have my CFI yet. I only put in about 20 hours during that time. After I got my CFI I got 3 students, but with weather delays and such I was putting in about 30 hours a month. My last 3 or 4 months however I started picking up all that multi time I was talking about, and the weather was improving. I was working 6 to 7 days per week but was getting over 100 hours per month. I flew just over 120 hours in my busiest month. Over the whole year an a half I logged about 650 hours.

Nick · July 25th, 2007, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by woog315

how many hours did you log in your year and a half there?

It sounds like you're trying to figure out if you could keep busy. You will.

As flyguy said it is easy to do more than 100 hours a month, I had a few months in the 135 hour range and that is only flight hours not counting ground pay and sim stuff.

I did 850 flight hours in nine months.

WestIndian425 · July 29th, 2007, 00:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick

It sounds like you're trying to figure out if you could keep busy. You will.

As flyguy said it is easy to do more than 100 hours a month, I had a few months in the 135 hour range and that is only flight hours not counting ground pay and sim stuff.

I did 850 flight hours in nine months.

Um...let it be known that Nick is a workaholic! No one flew more than him during his tenure. Timed out just about everyday!

flyguy · July 31st, 2007, 15:09

If while any of you are out for an interview and are not impressed, there's another opportunity about 50 miles north you might be interrested in. http://forums.jetcareers.com/jobs-av...tml#post652788

bap327 · July 31st, 2007, 15:20

If you come on board as a Ground Instructor will they give you a deal on the CFI? And how much does the Ground Instructor pay?
Thanks

I am a broke Commercial student who needs help financially getting the CFI done!!!

cfii2007 · July 31st, 2007, 19:03

Seems like more and more flight schools catering to foreign students are popping up in the Bay Area.

flyguy · July 31st, 2007, 20:18

Its the only way for flight schools to make money these days.

flyguy · July 31st, 2007, 20:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by bap327

If you come on board as a Ground Instructor will they give you a deal on the CFI? And how much does the Ground Instructor pay?
Thanks

I am a broke Commercial student who needs help financially getting the CFI done!!!

I wouldn't recommend getting your CFI through Sierra. They are just too expensive and their instructors are too busy. If you are working as a ground instructor it will make it even harder because you'll be too busy as well. I came on as a ground instructor, picked away at my CFI for about 6 months not really making any progress, and finally ended up going to Sheble to get it done. I don't know about the new JC Academy, but I'd immagine the same sort of deal. I'd recommend taking a couple weeks and doing an accelerated course through ATP or Sheble.

cfii2007 · July 31st, 2007, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyguy

Its the only way for flight schools to make money these days.

I agree...........

cfii2007 · July 31st, 2007, 22:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by bap327

If you come on board as a Ground Instructor will they give you a deal on the CFI? And how much does the Ground Instructor pay?
Thanks

I am a broke Commercial student who needs help financially getting the CFI done!!!

Save some money and do your CFI/CFII at ATP or Sheble......

aviatormar · August 1st, 2007, 07:21

OHH NO BOSTON IS BACK, ok, so here at sierra we have the multi now for 140 an hour WET (my pants that is when I heard it) and pay 25, not bad. I did my commerical multi and hopfully my MEI (thursaday, everyone pray for me, mr. b is a jerk), for under 2 grand including my examier fees. BEAT THAT ATP! HA! So in the next month I'll be more then ready to take the plunge, so all you guys from seirra at express, write your letters, BOSTON IS COMING AND KEEPING THE PARTY GOING!!!!!

taz · August 1st, 2007, 15:15

[quote=aviatormar;653237]OHH NO BOSTON IS BACK, ok, so here at sierra we have the multi now for 140 an hour WET (my pants that is when I heard it) and pay 25, not bad. I did my commerical multi and hopfully my MEI (thursaday, everyone pray for me, mr. b is a jerk), for under 2 grand including my examier fees. BEAT THAT ATP! HA! So in the next month I'll be more then ready to take the plunge, so all you guys from seirra at express, write your letters, BOSTON IS COMING AND KEEPING THE PARTY GOING!!!!![/QUOTEb]

better hurry up matt, 70 hire per month and i already have 300 peeps beneath me. don't forget to do that vegas xc with your student too

WestIndian425 · August 1st, 2007, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by aviatormar

OHH NO BOSTON IS BACK, ok, so here at sierra we have the multi now for 140 an hour WET (my pants that is when I heard it) and pay 25, not bad. I did my commerical multi and hopfully my MEI (thursaday, everyone pray for me, mr. b is a jerk), for under 2 grand including my examier fees. BEAT THAT ATP! HA! So in the next month I'll be more then ready to take the plunge, so all you guys from seirra at express, write your letters, BOSTON IS COMING AND KEEPING THE PARTY GOING!!!!!

Hurry up, Boston!

Now how many references can you get from the Express guys? Jeez!! That's a lot! Kinda nice to be part of the fraternity, isn't it. We have to give it a name.

flyguy · August 2nd, 2007, 00:14

Boston has multi time!!!!!!!

Dude, what the hell are you talking about? Mr. B is awesome! I did all my rides with him except Pvt, CFI and CFII. Know the pitot static system inside and out and you'll be fine.

Here's my Mr. B gouge. He'll most likely show up at least 15 minutes late. The oral will take 3+ hours but he'll only ask about 30 minutes worth of questions. He'll start out by giving you some paper and he'll write 10 questions on the board. Then he'll leave the office for about 30 minutes while you write the answers on the paper. One of the questions will be draw the pitot static system, and he'll also want you to explain 10 conditions and 4 factors. For MEI you'll teach them. Be prepared with diagrams to draw on the board for the 4 factors. Every 10 mintues he'll get on the phone and leave the office for about 15 minutes. He'll come back and not remember what you were dicussing before he left. Then he'll BS and shoot the ###### for a while (he was a cop for 30 years, get him talking about that and you're golden). Then he'll ask one or two more questions, then get back on the phone and the cycle continues. More BS, more questions, more phone calls and after about 3 hours he'll be ready to fly. If he asks what makes an airplane fly, the answer is money. He'll proabbly also ask how many engines the Seminole has. Say something off the wall like "7" and he'll chuckle and you'll be off to a good start. He'll also ask you for all the endorsements you'll need to sign off a commercial multi checkride. Use the AC.

For the MEI ride, you'll do the landings first at CCR. He'll probably take the controls and have you talk him through a short field landing, then out over Travis you'll do the maneuvers and come back in. Mr. B's MEI ride is by far the easiest checkride I've ever done. Don't be a jerk and he won't be. If he starts ragging on you get him talking about cops.

Good luck man.

aviatormar · August 2nd, 2007, 01:31

I know it's amazing I have multi time! I did my 8710 (Long story, no ICARCA FOR THIS GUY!) and I have 23 hours in it, wow think express will pick me up? HA, jk jk, but the end to the middle of september, i'm so there (unless i pick up this sweet S2000 from Merced, then I'll stay alittle while longer at 25 bucks and hour.....) but yeah man, pretty soon bro's. As for a frat name? I think it should be something like IWANTTOFLYNOTINTHEHEAT! YEH BOI!!!! And yeh Mr. B is a jerk, he's insane, but fairly easy, but have to lube him up. Hey Neil, you over at EWR? How's life out there back east man? Ya'll get to up and down the seaboard, and into Canada and mexico (by the way I have to show you guys what i did to my car, amazing stuff)

flyguy · August 2nd, 2007, 03:35

Dude, you've got the TT, why go to Express when you can go to SKW?

wwuaviator · August 2nd, 2007, 14:51

I just finished my multi add on, and it was a recheck. Eric I should have talked to you about the pitot-static system.....my drawing was not to his liking on the oral and I think it carried over to the ride.....thus the first one was a disaster.....second time around was way better. He was in a great mood....in hindsight, I'm glad he pinked me, it was a wake up call....too many hrs of critiqueing chinese students made me complacent. Next up, MEI in two weeks.....

flyguy · August 2nd, 2007, 18:34

Yeah if you know how to work Mr. B he's a teddy bear, but he can be grumpy if you push the wrong buttons. He really loves that pitot static system. He'll have you going into the mode c and explain the encoder and digitizer, and if you can take the pressure altitude reading all the way to ATC you'll earn some major brownie points.

cfii2007 · August 2nd, 2007, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyguy

Boston has multi time!!!!!!!

Dude, what the hell are you talking about? Mr. B is awesome! I did all my rides with him except Pvt, CFI and CFII. Know the pitot static system inside and out and you'll be fine.

Here's my Mr. B gouge. He'll most likely show up at least 15 minutes late. The oral will take 3+ hours but he'll only ask about 30 minutes worth of questions. He'll start out by giving you some paper and he'll write 10 questions on the board. Then he'll leave the office for about 30 minutes while you write the answers on the paper. One of the questions will be draw the pitot static system, and he'll also want you to explain 10 conditions and 4 factors. For MEI you'll teach them. Be prepared with diagrams to draw on the board for the 4 factors. Every 10 mintues he'll get on the phone and leave the office for about 15 minutes. He'll come back and not remember what you were dicussing before he left. Then he'll BS and shoot the ###### for a while (he was a cop for 30 years, get him talking about that and you're golden). Then he'll ask one or two more questions, then get back on the phone and the cycle continues. More BS, more questions, more phone calls and after about 3 hours he'll be ready to fly. If he asks what makes an airplane fly, the answer is money. He'll proabbly also ask how many engines the Seminole has. Say something off the wall like "7" and he'll chuckle and you'll be off to a good start. He'll also ask you for all the endorsements you'll need to sign off a commercial multi checkride. Use the AC.

For the MEI ride, you'll do the landings first at CCR. He'll probably take the controls and have you talk him through a short field landing, then out over Travis you'll do the maneuvers and come back in. Mr. B's MEI ride is by far the easiest checkride I've ever done. Don't be a jerk and he won't be. If he starts ragging on you get him talking about cops.

Good luck man.

This Mr. B wouldn't have a thick Mass. accent by chance?

flyguy · August 2nd, 2007, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfii2007

This Mr. B wouldn't have a thick Mass. accent by chance?

Yep, that's the guy. Which is kind of a mystery because he's lived in CA his whole life.

WAFlyBoy · August 2nd, 2007, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyguy

Yep, that's the guy. Which is kind of a mystery because he's lived in CA his whole life.

He was a cop, after all. Don't all cops have a NE accent regardless?

aviatormar · August 2nd, 2007, 23:51

Mr. B decided to give me my MEI today, what was he thinking....
HERE I COME!!! And Eric, think about it, I"m from where? Boston why would I want to fly for skyWEST?????
And as for Mr. B having a thick accent? Are you smoking crack? That man has a "hella" (makes my skin crawl when I hear that word) california sound (I HATE how how ya'll talk out here). Now if you want accent I"ll just pak the ca in havad yad. Hey Louie, TOP DAWGGG!

aviatormar · August 2nd, 2007, 23:57

Hey know what was kinda funny, I was drawing and explaining the Pitot system and i look back, Mr. B is full out sleeping. Like his head was nodding off, pretty funny stuff. Ohh, and the calling people thing, so I'm in the middle of a oral, he says stop, wait a min, picks up his phone, and calls someone. Best part, he's like hey buddy, haven't spoken to you in awhile, how's things? THEY TALKED FOR 20 mins catching up. Yeah this guy is the man. Looks at me, then says keep going, what are you waiting for? The guy is a straight M####### and I love'em for that. Why do you think we get along?

July 21st, 2007, 23:12	#376
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: CFIs Needed Multi time comes in waves because the students come in waves and progress through the ratings together. There are times when there are no students working on multi, and times when many of them are. When there are lots of students working on multi, there are also a lot of instructors getting multi time and coincidentaly are reaching airline mins and leaving, which leaves a ton of multi students with no instructor, and also a lot of overworked MEIs who will gladly let you take their studetns for cross countries. That's actually where I got all my multi time, was from students who's instructors left, or who's instructors needed me to help them out. I actually only had 3 Korean students that I started private with. All three of them either left the school, ran out of money, or went to a Korean instructor. I didn't get any multi time from them. After a year and a half out there though, I managed to get over 200 multi hours from picking up students from instructors who left, and by being available on my "time off" to fly cross countries with other students. If you stick around long enough, the multi time will come. That is a promise. __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

July 21st, 2007, 23:58	#377
woog315 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 97	Re: CFIs Needed flyguy, if you dont mind my asking, how many hours did you log in your year and a half there?

July 22nd, 2007, 22:43	#378
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: CFIs Needed Well my first 6 months I was just a ground instructor and didn't have my CFI yet. I only put in about 20 hours during that time. After I got my CFI I got 3 students, but with weather delays and such I was putting in about 30 hours a month. My last 3 or 4 months however I started picking up all that multi time I was talking about, and the weather was improving. I was working 6 to 7 days per week but was getting over 100 hours per month. I flew just over 120 hours in my busiest month. Over the whole year an a half I logged about 650 hours. __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

July 31st, 2007, 15:09	#381
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: CFIs Needed If while any of you are out for an interview and are not impressed, there's another opportunity about 50 miles north you might be interrested in. http://forums.jetcareers.com/jobs-av...tml#post652788 __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

July 31st, 2007, 15:20	#382
bap327 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: BOSTON Posts: 443	Re: CFIs Needed If you come on board as a Ground Instructor will they give you a deal on the CFI? And how much does the Ground Instructor pay? Thanks I am a broke Commercial student who needs help financially getting the CFI done!!! __________________ Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been , and there you will always long to return. - Leonardo da Vinci

July 31st, 2007, 19:03	#383
cfii2007 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,286	Re: CFIs Needed Seems like more and more flight schools catering to foreign students are popping up in the Bay Area.

July 31st, 2007, 20:18	#384
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: CFIs Needed Its the only way for flight schools to make money these days. __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

August 1st, 2007, 07:21	#388
aviatormar Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 73	Re: CFIs Needed OHH NO BOSTON IS BACK, ok, so here at sierra we have the multi now for 140 an hour WET (my pants that is when I heard it) and pay 25, not bad. I did my commerical multi and hopfully my MEI (thursaday, everyone pray for me, mr. b is a jerk), for under 2 grand including my examier fees. BEAT THAT ATP! HA! So in the next month I'll be more then ready to take the plunge, so all you guys from seirra at express, write your letters, BOSTON IS COMING AND KEEPING THE PARTY GOING!!!!!

August 1st, 2007, 15:15	#389
taz Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 47	Re: CFIs Needed [quote=aviatormar;653237]OHH NO BOSTON IS BACK, ok, so here at sierra we have the multi now for 140 an hour WET (my pants that is when I heard it) and pay 25, not bad. I did my commerical multi and hopfully my MEI (thursaday, everyone pray for me, mr. b is a jerk), for under 2 grand including my examier fees. BEAT THAT ATP! HA! So in the next month I'll be more then ready to take the plunge, so all you guys from seirra at express, write your letters, BOSTON IS COMING AND KEEPING THE PARTY GOING!!!!![/QUOTEb] better hurry up matt, 70 hire per month and i already have 300 peeps beneath me. don't forget to do that vegas xc with your student too

August 2nd, 2007, 00:14	#391
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: CFIs Needed Boston has multi time!!!!!!! Dude, what the hell are you talking about? Mr. B is awesome! I did all my rides with him except Pvt, CFI and CFII. Know the pitot static system inside and out and you'll be fine. Here's my Mr. B gouge. He'll most likely show up at least 15 minutes late. The oral will take 3+ hours but he'll only ask about 30 minutes worth of questions. He'll start out by giving you some paper and he'll write 10 questions on the board. Then he'll leave the office for about 30 minutes while you write the answers on the paper. One of the questions will be draw the pitot static system, and he'll also want you to explain 10 conditions and 4 factors. For MEI you'll teach them. Be prepared with diagrams to draw on the board for the 4 factors. Every 10 mintues he'll get on the phone and leave the office for about 15 minutes. He'll come back and not remember what you were dicussing before he left. Then he'll BS and shoot the ###### for a while (he was a cop for 30 years, get him talking about that and you're golden). Then he'll ask one or two more questions, then get back on the phone and the cycle continues. More BS, more questions, more phone calls and after about 3 hours he'll be ready to fly. If he asks what makes an airplane fly, the answer is money. He'll proabbly also ask how many engines the Seminole has. Say something off the wall like "7" and he'll chuckle and you'll be off to a good start. He'll also ask you for all the endorsements you'll need to sign off a commercial multi checkride. Use the AC. For the MEI ride, you'll do the landings first at CCR. He'll probably take the controls and have you talk him through a short field landing, then out over Travis you'll do the maneuvers and come back in. Mr. B's MEI ride is by far the easiest checkride I've ever done. Don't be a jerk and he won't be. If he starts ragging on you get him talking about cops. Good luck man. __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

August 2nd, 2007, 01:31	#392
aviatormar Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 73	Re: CFIs Needed I know it's amazing I have multi time! I did my 8710 (Long story, no ICARCA FOR THIS GUY!) and I have 23 hours in it, wow think express will pick me up? HA, jk jk, but the end to the middle of september, i'm so there (unless i pick up this sweet S2000 from Merced, then I'll stay alittle while longer at 25 bucks and hour.....) but yeah man, pretty soon bro's. As for a frat name? I think it should be something like IWANTTOFLYNOTINTHEHEAT! YEH BOI!!!! And yeh Mr. B is a jerk, he's insane, but fairly easy, but have to lube him up. Hey Neil, you over at EWR? How's life out there back east man? Ya'll get to up and down the seaboard, and into Canada and mexico (by the way I have to show you guys what i did to my car, amazing stuff)

August 2nd, 2007, 03:35	#393
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: CFIs Needed Dude, you've got the TT, why go to Express when you can go to SKW? __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

August 2nd, 2007, 14:51	#394
wwuaviator Newbie Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Atwater Posts: 13	Re: CFIs Needed I just finished my multi add on, and it was a recheck. Eric I should have talked to you about the pitot-static system.....my drawing was not to his liking on the oral and I think it carried over to the ride.....thus the first one was a disaster.....second time around was way better. He was in a great mood....in hindsight, I'm glad he pinked me, it was a wake up call....too many hrs of critiqueing chinese students made me complacent. Next up, MEI in two weeks.....

August 2nd, 2007, 18:34	#395
flyguy Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 2,074	Re: CFIs Needed Yeah if you know how to work Mr. B he's a teddy bear, but he can be grumpy if you push the wrong buttons. He really loves that pitot static system. He'll have you going into the mode c and explain the encoder and digitizer, and if you can take the pressure altitude reading all the way to ATC you'll earn some major brownie points. __________________ "Roads?...Where we're going we don't need roads."

August 2nd, 2007, 23:51	#399
aviatormar Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 73	Re: CFIs Needed Mr. B decided to give me my MEI today, what was he thinking.... HERE I COME!!! And Eric, think about it, I"m from where? Boston why would I want to fly for skyWEST????? And as for Mr. B having a thick accent? Are you smoking crack? That man has a "hella" (makes my skin crawl when I hear that word) california sound (I HATE how how ya'll talk out here). Now if you want accent I"ll just pak the ca in havad yad. Hey Louie, TOP DAWGGG!

August 2nd, 2007, 23:57	#400
aviatormar Junior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 73	Re: CFIs Needed Hey know what was kinda funny, I was drawing and explaining the Pitot system and i look back, Mr. B is full out sleeping. Like his head was nodding off, pretty funny stuff. Ohh, and the calling people thing, so I'm in the middle of a oral, he says stop, wait a min, picks up his phone, and calls someone. Best part, he's like hey buddy, haven't spoken to you in awhile, how's things? THEY TALKED FOR 20 mins catching up. Yeah this guy is the man. Looks at me, then says keep going, what are you waiting for? The guy is a straight M####### and I love'em for that. Why do you think we get along?

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