Ut Oh...somebody's s****ed

jknight8907 · September 11th, 2005, 19:40

Today I was flying back to northern Arkansas from Mississippi and heard on 121.5 several transmissions from an Air Force AWACS plane over New Orleans calling another aircraft that had entered a restricted area. He was about 15 miles from the Harvey VORTAC, at altitudes from 100 to 300 feet. He was told "you are inside a restricted area! Vector South!". After several of these calls, American 267 told the Air Force to try New Orleans tower freq.

I wonder how long it will take for this to make the news.....btw, why is there a restricted area down there now? Is the president down there?

Doug Taylor · September 11th, 2005, 19:42

Probably won't! Lots of people busting restricted airspace and getting screamed at on guard on a daily basis.

EatSleepFly · September 11th, 2005, 20:31

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btw, why is there a restricted area down there now? Is the president down there?

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Must be. I was there Friday night and there wasn't one. At least I hope not...

jknight8907 · September 11th, 2005, 21:06

Found out what the restricted area is for....the President is spending the night on the Iwo Jima tonight, which is there at N.O.

Bog · September 12th, 2005, 02:43

I rarely listen to 121.5, and never did when I was flying around in GA aircraft. Kinda glad I didn't. I've heard some of the most unprofessional stuff on that freq. Sometimes it sounded like a handful of 5th graders arguing over whose Trapper Keeper was the best. Sad. Very sad.

Doug Taylor · September 12th, 2005, 03:16

Whenever I monitor 121.5 it's:

"Deltona traffic, Cessna 219 foxtrot zulu, left base, 24..."

"You're on GUAAAAAAARD..."

or

"Signature, Citation 1234 charlie in range, lookin' for a quickturn....DOH"

"You're on GUAAAAAAARD..."

or, in Washington Center:

"Aircraft two zero miles southeast of Armel VORTAC, you are approaching restricted airspace, turn immediately south....repeat...aircraft two zero miles..."

MikeD · September 12th, 2005, 03:25

Last night on Guard 243.0 was "Unknown rider vicinity Anyang 290 35, angels 23 eastbound, you are inside Romeo-111 and approaching Papa 73 Bravo. Turn south immediately or you will be fired upon in 10 miles. Advise reciept with ident."

Doh.

It's the same as years ago when I was tooling around south of the DMZ checking out the terrain, and the ROKAF controller comes up on guard to tell me that I'm getting too close to the DMZ buffer line and to turn southeast immediately, at the same exact time the RHAW gear registers an SA-2 target tracker (not just target scanning) lock-on from across the line to the north. Doh! Roll it over inverted and pull it down behind the hills as I swing south. Last thing I need is a flying telephone pole surprise.

Learned my lesson.........they're always watching.

Doug Taylor · September 12th, 2005, 03:34

Well, last I heard we're merely at a truce!

T'row 'em a few tons of UNICEF orange rice and they'll turn off the SAM site!

MikeD · September 12th, 2005, 03:48

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Well, last I heard we're merely at a truce!

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That doesn't keep them from screwing with you at any given opportunity. Remember a couple years back the USAF RC-135 that was intercepted by NKAF MiG-29s about 200 miles offshore? Complete surprise that we didn't see coming.......RC crew didn't know they were there until the MiGs formed up on them and they started receiving RHAW hits.

Here's the Benson cartoon about it:

Doug Taylor · September 12th, 2005, 03:54

Totally forgot about that!

One of my friends was telling me about a guy he knew that was performing 'atmospheric research' a little north of the parallel in the U-2. He said how his friend could notice a discernable line, at night, between S. Korea and N. Korea. It's like all of the bright lights stopped at the border and virtual complete darkness north of the border.

MikeD · September 12th, 2005, 04:14

[ QUOTE ]
Totally forgot about that!

One of my friends was telling me about a guy he knew that was performing 'atmospheric research' a little north of the parallel in the U-2. He said how his friend could notice a discernable line, at night, between S. Korea and N. Korea. It's like all of the bright lights stopped at the border and virtual complete darkness north of the border.

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It's true. At night, in the Hog that was the easiest way to determine where the border was. Lights simply stop further north.

tonyw · September 12th, 2005, 16:35

You ain't kidding about the DC airspace and guard.

Seems like just about every transmission I hear on guard has the following phrase in it:

"This is the United States Air Force. Suggest immediate turn to..."

September 11th, 2005, 19:40	#1
jknight8907 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 266	Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed Today I was flying back to northern Arkansas from Mississippi and heard on 121.5 several transmissions from an Air Force AWACS plane over New Orleans calling another aircraft that had entered a restricted area. He was about 15 miles from the Harvey VORTAC, at altitudes from 100 to 300 feet. He was told "you are inside a restricted area! Vector South!". After several of these calls, American 267 told the Air Force to try New Orleans tower freq. I wonder how long it will take for this to make the news.....btw, why is there a restricted area down there now? Is the president down there?

September 11th, 2005, 19:42	#2
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,600 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed Probably won't! Lots of people busting restricted airspace and getting screamed at on guard on a daily basis.

September 11th, 2005, 20:31	#3
EatSleepFly Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: ?? Posts: 4,600	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed [ QUOTE ] btw, why is there a restricted area down there now? Is the president down there? [/ QUOTE ] Must be. I was there Friday night and there wasn't one. At least I hope not...

September 11th, 2005, 21:06	#4
jknight8907 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Memphis Posts: 266	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed Found out what the restricted area is for....the President is spending the night on the Iwo Jima tonight, which is there at N.O.

September 12th, 2005, 02:43	#5
Bog Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 1,164	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed I rarely listen to 121.5, and never did when I was flying around in GA aircraft. Kinda glad I didn't. I've heard some of the most unprofessional stuff on that freq. Sometimes it sounded like a handful of 5th graders arguing over whose Trapper Keeper was the best. Sad. Very sad.

September 12th, 2005, 03:16	#6
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,600 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed Whenever I monitor 121.5 it's: "Deltona traffic, Cessna 219 foxtrot zulu, left base, 24..." "You're on GUAAAAAAARD..." or "Signature, Citation 1234 charlie in range, lookin' for a quickturn....DOH" "You're on GUAAAAAAARD..." or, in Washington Center: "Aircraft two zero miles southeast of Armel VORTAC, you are approaching restricted airspace, turn immediately south....repeat...aircraft two zero miles..."

September 12th, 2005, 03:25	#7
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed Last night on Guard 243.0 was "Unknown rider vicinity Anyang 290 35, angels 23 eastbound, you are inside Romeo-111 and approaching Papa 73 Bravo. Turn south immediately or you will be fired upon in 10 miles. Advise reciept with ident." Doh. It's the same as years ago when I was tooling around south of the DMZ checking out the terrain, and the ROKAF controller comes up on guard to tell me that I'm getting too close to the DMZ buffer line and to turn southeast immediately, at the same exact time the RHAW gear registers an SA-2 target tracker (not just target scanning) lock-on from across the line to the north. Doh! Roll it over inverted and pull it down behind the hills as I swing south. Last thing I need is a flying telephone pole surprise. Learned my lesson.........they're always watching.

September 12th, 2005, 03:34	#8
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,600 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed Well, last I heard we're merely at a truce! T'row 'em a few tons of UNICEF orange rice and they'll turn off the SAM site!

September 12th, 2005, 03:48	#9
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed [ QUOTE ] Well, last I heard we're merely at a truce! [/ QUOTE ] That doesn't keep them from screwing with you at any given opportunity. Remember a couple years back the USAF RC-135 that was intercepted by NKAF MiG-29s about 200 miles offshore? Complete surprise that we didn't see coming.......RC crew didn't know they were there until the MiGs formed up on them and they started receiving RHAW hits. Here's the Benson cartoon about it:

September 12th, 2005, 03:54	#10
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,600 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed Totally forgot about that! One of my friends was telling me about a guy he knew that was performing 'atmospheric research' a little north of the parallel in the U-2. He said how his friend could notice a discernable line, at night, between S. Korea and N. Korea. It's like all of the bright lights stopped at the border and virtual complete darkness north of the border.

September 12th, 2005, 04:14	#11
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed [ QUOTE ] Totally forgot about that! One of my friends was telling me about a guy he knew that was performing 'atmospheric research' a little north of the parallel in the U-2. He said how his friend could notice a discernable line, at night, between S. Korea and N. Korea. It's like all of the bright lights stopped at the border and virtual complete darkness north of the border. [/ QUOTE ] It's true. At night, in the Hog that was the easiest way to determine where the border was. Lights simply stop further north.

September 12th, 2005, 16:35	#12
tonyw Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 15,471	Re: Ut Oh...somebody\'s sed You ain't kidding about the DC airspace and guard. Seems like just about every transmission I hear on guard has the following phrase in it: "This is the United States Air Force. Suggest immediate turn to..."

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