NWA Strike Propaganda

Doug Taylor · August 29th, 2005, 13:05

True? Not true?

n77j · August 29th, 2005, 13:46

Any fact to support their statement?

Otherwise, i would say not true! I have NOT read a newspaper article or seen anything on TV of that sort yet.

Doug Taylor · August 29th, 2005, 13:49

I saw it on the wall in the lounge and thought, "Would AMFA stoop that that level?" then I googled and came up with this and this.

tonyw · August 29th, 2005, 13:52

It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Sad thing is, nobody will care.

All Joe Twelvepack cares about is getting a $100 transcon fare. If NWA gives it to him, he's gonna be happy. Who cares if the people working on his plane are illegals?

Mike Lewis · August 29th, 2005, 13:54

I saw this article from USA Today, so it appears that there is some truth to it...

n77j · August 29th, 2005, 14:06

Oh....the power of Google....you can almost learn to fly a plane by doing a search on Google

scottyboy75 · August 29th, 2005, 14:09

I recently read an article in a waiting room that shocked me. If the IRS notices that someone files a fake W4 with yous ssn they do not have to tell you about it. And because of privacy laws they do not even have to give the original owner any info about any misuse of their ssn. But I guess they won't turn down anyones money.

mpenguin1 · August 29th, 2005, 14:39

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I saw it on the wall in the lounge and thought, "Would AMFA stoop that that level?" then I googled and came up with this and this.

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The first link was dated 16-April-2005

Illegal Aliens Working on Jetliners
Saturday, April 16, 2005

The 2nd link was dated Posted 4/18/2005 6:59 AM

So, there is no information to back up the claim that Northwest is presently hiring illegal unions to provide MX work....

mpenguin1 · August 29th, 2005, 14:41

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It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Sad thing is, nobody will care.

All Joe Twelvepack cares about is getting a $100 transcon fare. If NWA gives it to him, he's gonna be happy. Who cares if the people working on his plane are illegals?

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Most people would care, if they knew about it, just look at home much pressure people are placing on their politicians due to illegal activity in this country.....

pilot602 · August 29th, 2005, 14:56

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So, there is no information to back up the claim that Northwest is presently hiring illegal unions to provide MX work....

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So it WAS ok when they were hiring illegal folks to work on aircraft?

Tim · August 29th, 2005, 15:10

I read on the Delta TechOps page that the FAA is having a number of mechanics retake there written. Seems that a former A&P school did follow all the rules and possible gave license to guys who really werent qualified. These mechanics are not just at Delta but all over.

mpenguin1 · August 29th, 2005, 15:41

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So, there is no information to back up the claim that Northwest is presently hiring illegal unions to provide MX work....

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So it WAS ok when they were hiring illegal folks to work on aircraft?

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I never said that, the topic of the post had to do with the strike, your question is a totally separate question, but, since you brought it up, the answer would be no.....

Falcon262 · August 29th, 2005, 19:19

It is true, it was in the paper here in Greensboro a couple of months ago.

PeanuckleCRJ · August 29th, 2005, 20:50

Alot of carriers use that facility in Greensboro... I remember seeing some united planes and others down there on layevers there. Really large operation.

tonyw · August 29th, 2005, 23:02

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Most people would care, if they knew about it, just look at home much pressure people are placing on their politicians due to illegal activity in this country.....

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Yes, because those people are ALL OVER restaurants for hiring illegals to cook their food and wash the dishes and bus the tables. And theyr'e OUTRAGED at their offices for using illegals to clean the buildings. And they're just going absolutely BALLISTIC about the illegals who are picking the fruits and vegetables they get in the supermarket.

Come on, pengy! Let's be realistic here. Sure, people will complain about illegals right up until the point where the price of the food they buy goes up and their office building gets dirty.

Sean_S · August 30th, 2005, 00:33

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Yes, because those people are ALL OVER restaurants for hiring illegals to cook their food and wash the dishes and bus the tables. And theyr'e OUTRAGED at their offices for using illegals to clean the buildings. And they're just going absolutely BALLISTIC about the illegals who are picking the fruits and vegetables they get in the supermarket.

Come on, pengy! Let's be realistic here. Sure, people will complain about illegals right up until the point where the price of the food they buy goes up and their office building gets dirty.

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Everyone wants to complain about it until it costs them more money

Doug Taylor · August 30th, 2005, 00:36

True that. Some refer to lap children as "lap rockets" because they tend to zing around the cabin during emergency/crash landings. But, to some, the idea of some parents having to buy an additional ticket in order to put a safety chair in for their young children is "preposterous".

ComplexHiAv8r · August 31st, 2005, 09:21

Yes, but the FAA will continue to allow "lap rockets" indicating that allowing that is better then a couple deciding to drive on their X-C vacation. Flying is safer then driving.

Can you see a lawsuit coming? I am sueing the airline because at age 2 I would have had to buy another seat, so we drove and got into this acident. Would of never happended if I could of kept my child in my lap!

August 29th, 2005, 13:05	#1
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,540 Blog Entries: 1	NWA Strike Propaganda True? Not true?

August 29th, 2005, 13:46	#2
n77j Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: haytown,california Posts: 267	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda Any fact to support their statement? Otherwise, i would say not true! I have NOT read a newspaper article or seen anything on TV of that sort yet.

August 29th, 2005, 13:49	#3
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,540 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda I saw it on the wall in the lounge and thought, "Would AMFA stoop that that level?" then I googled and came up with this and this.

August 29th, 2005, 13:52	#4
tonyw Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 15,463	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Sad thing is, nobody will care. All Joe Twelvepack cares about is getting a $100 transcon fare. If NWA gives it to him, he's gonna be happy. Who cares if the people working on his plane are illegals?

August 29th, 2005, 13:54	#5
Mike Lewis Shadow Administrator Join Date: Jul 1998 Location: Between KFCM and KMSP Posts: 6,227	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda I saw this article from USA Today, so it appears that there is some truth to it...

August 29th, 2005, 14:06	#6
n77j Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: haytown,california Posts: 267	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda Oh....the power of Google....you can almost learn to fly a plane by doing a search on Google

August 29th, 2005, 14:09	#7
scottyboy75 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SLC Posts: 764	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda I recently read an article in a waiting room that shocked me. If the IRS notices that someone files a fake W4 with yous ssn they do not have to tell you about it. And because of privacy laws they do not even have to give the original owner any info about any misuse of their ssn. But I guess they won't turn down anyones money.

August 29th, 2005, 14:39	#8
mpenguin1 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 10,098 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda [ QUOTE ] I saw it on the wall in the lounge and thought, "Would AMFA stoop that that level?" then I googled and came up with this and this. [/ QUOTE ] The first link was dated 16-April-2005 Illegal Aliens Working on Jetliners Saturday, April 16, 2005 The 2nd link was dated Posted 4/18/2005 6:59 AM So, there is no information to back up the claim that Northwest is presently hiring illegal unions to provide MX work....

August 29th, 2005, 14:41	#9
mpenguin1 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 10,098 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda [ QUOTE ] It wouldn't surprise me if it were true. Sad thing is, nobody will care. All Joe Twelvepack cares about is getting a $100 transcon fare. If NWA gives it to him, he's gonna be happy. Who cares if the people working on his plane are illegals? [/ QUOTE ] Most people would care, if they knew about it, just look at home much pressure people are placing on their politicians due to illegal activity in this country.....

August 29th, 2005, 14:56	#10
pilot602 Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: who haa Posts: 3,750	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda [ QUOTE ] So, there is no information to back up the claim that Northwest is presently hiring illegal unions to provide MX work.... [/ QUOTE ] So it WAS ok when they were hiring illegal folks to work on aircraft?

August 29th, 2005, 15:10	#11
Tim Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,205	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda I read on the Delta TechOps page that the FAA is having a number of mechanics retake there written. Seems that a former A&P school did follow all the rules and possible gave license to guys who really werent qualified. These mechanics are not just at Delta but all over.

August 29th, 2005, 15:41	#12
mpenguin1 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 10,098 Blog Entries: 5	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So, there is no information to back up the claim that Northwest is presently hiring illegal unions to provide MX work.... [/ QUOTE ] So it WAS ok when they were hiring illegal folks to work on aircraft? [/ QUOTE ] I never said that, the topic of the post had to do with the strike, your question is a totally separate question, but, since you brought it up, the answer would be no.....

August 29th, 2005, 19:19	#13
Falcon262 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 177	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda It is true, it was in the paper here in Greensboro a couple of months ago.

August 29th, 2005, 20:50	#14
PeanuckleCRJ Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Where everybody's somebody Posts: 605	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda Alot of carriers use that facility in Greensboro... I remember seeing some united planes and others down there on layevers there. Really large operation.

August 29th, 2005, 23:02	#15
tonyw Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Maryland Posts: 15,463	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda [ QUOTE ] Most people would care, if they knew about it, just look at home much pressure people are placing on their politicians due to illegal activity in this country..... [/ QUOTE ] Yes, because those people are ALL OVER restaurants for hiring illegals to cook their food and wash the dishes and bus the tables. And theyr'e OUTRAGED at their offices for using illegals to clean the buildings. And they're just going absolutely BALLISTIC about the illegals who are picking the fruits and vegetables they get in the supermarket. Come on, pengy! Let's be realistic here. Sure, people will complain about illegals right up until the point where the price of the food they buy goes up and their office building gets dirty.

August 30th, 2005, 00:33	#16
Sean_S Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 241	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda [ QUOTE ] Yes, because those people are ALL OVER restaurants for hiring illegals to cook their food and wash the dishes and bus the tables. And theyr'e OUTRAGED at their offices for using illegals to clean the buildings. And they're just going absolutely BALLISTIC about the illegals who are picking the fruits and vegetables they get in the supermarket. Come on, pengy! Let's be realistic here. Sure, people will complain about illegals right up until the point where the price of the food they buy goes up and their office building gets dirty. [/ QUOTE ] Everyone wants to complain about it until it costs them more money

August 30th, 2005, 00:36	#17
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,540 Blog Entries: 1	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda True that. Some refer to lap children as "lap rockets" because they tend to zing around the cabin during emergency/crash landings. But, to some, the idea of some parents having to buy an additional ticket in order to put a safety chair in for their young children is "preposterous".

August 31st, 2005, 09:21	#18
ComplexHiAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: OH or is it MX?? Posts: 4,570	Re: NWA Strike Propaganda Yes, but the FAA will continue to allow "lap rockets" indicating that allowing that is better then a couple deciding to drive on their X-C vacation. Flying is safer then driving. Can you see a lawsuit coming? I am sueing the airline because at age 2 I would have had to buy another seat, so we drove and got into this acident. Would of never happended if I could of kept my child in my lap!

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