More Florida planes dropping from the sky's (4th in 2 weeks)

SierraPilot · June 20th, 2005, 19:41

MIAMI -- The Coast Guard is searching for two small planes that likely crashed Monday off south Florida coasts -- one near Port St. Lucie and the other south of Sanibel.

A single-engine Piper carrying three people possibly crashed 25 miles east of Port St. Lucie Monday morning. Officials said the aircraft was traveling from the Bahamas to Fort Pierce.

Minutes later, a second report came in of a possible plane crash 18 miles south of Sanibel. One person was aboard the Cessna that departed from Naples and was heading to Key West.

The Federal Aviation Administration alerted the Coast Guard about the possible crashes.

MrSandman · June 20th, 2005, 21:46

From the standpoint of safety, I still cannot reason why people continue to insist on flying light singles from the Bahamas to mainland Florida.

I really would not surprised if they were cruising at 6,000 or so.

FlyingNole · June 20th, 2005, 22:37

If you plan your island hopping right, you can make your longest trip over water about 40 min. Still, I wouldn't want to be that far out in a single.

Grabo172 · June 20th, 2005, 23:23

I'll be doing it in just over 3 weeks... Lloyd just got back...

Not unsafe at all, you just need to plan plan plan and plan some more after that.

MrSandman · June 21st, 2005, 00:01

Sure with proper planning, but how many do you think really go to that extent?

FlyingNole · June 21st, 2005, 01:43

I would like to say all, but unfortunately that's not the case

mtsu_av8er · June 21st, 2005, 02:14

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Sure with proper planning, but how many do you think really go to that extent?

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If someone doesn't want to do the planning, there's nothing else you can do.

Alot of people run out of gas over dry land because they didn't plan properly. So, should people not fly over dry land?

kellwolf · June 21st, 2005, 03:15

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If you plan your island hopping right, you can make your longest trip over water about 40 min. Still, I wouldn't want to be that far out in a single.

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Yeah, I know I've had my engine conk out tons of times after 40 mins of flight. I think a lot of guys are being a little TOO cautious on this. If planned properly, a flight to the Bahamas in a single should be as much of a non-event as one over land. Your engine isn't just gonna die suddenly. There will be hints and clues. If you choose to ignore those clues, then that's a bad call, no matter if you're over land or water. I'd be willing to bet a lot of people that say "I won't fly to the Bahamas in a single" will launch off into the wild blue for a land flight with a malfunctioning guage since they could just divert if things get dicey. Which is the more dangerous of the two?

ready2fly · June 21st, 2005, 13:03

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From the standpoint of safety, I still cannot reason why people continue to insist on flying light singles from the Bahamas to mainland Florida.

I really would not surprised if they were cruising at 6,000 or so.

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Why? Explain please.

I do it a lot. Done it about seven times in the past three months. No big deal.

The plane doesn't know it's over water.

It's no more, or less safe than flying over land IMHO. You take the required safety equipment and do what you are trained to do.

As for altitudes - I generally go over at 11,000 and back at about 10,000. However, a large number of folks fly back and forth - every day - at much lower altitudes.

FlyingNole · June 21st, 2005, 14:10

Gotta play the odds Kell. Would you rather be over land at 7k, when your engine quits or gives "warning signs" that its going to. Or out of gliding range from land, when your engine starts to go. Ok, the likelyhood of an engine failure while cruising is low, but still, would you want to risk it?

Flyboyz · June 21st, 2005, 14:17

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The plane doesn't know it's over water.

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That's funny.

Doug Taylor · June 21st, 2005, 14:23

Hey R2F - do YOU have 1500/200ME? If so, holla at me.

CrazyJ · June 21st, 2005, 14:48

Two words -- BERMUDA TRIANGLE. Explains everything and yet explains nothing. Florida is just having some bad luck.

BCTAv8r · June 21st, 2005, 14:55

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Two words -- BERMUDA TRIANGLE. Explains everything and yet explains nothing. Florida is just having some bad luck.

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Damn.

kellwolf · June 21st, 2005, 19:04

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Gotta play the odds Kell. Would you rather be over land at 7k, when your engine quits or gives "warning signs" that its going to. Or out of gliding range from land, when your engine starts to go. Ok, the likelyhood of an engine failure while cruising is low, but still, would you want to risk it?

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If I played those kinda odds, I'd never leave the house. Odds are better of getting sideswiped on I-20 than your engine magically quitting.

ready2fly · June 22nd, 2005, 10:51

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Hey R2F - do YOU have 1500/200ME? If so, holla at me.

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Check yo PM's bro.

flippedr6 · June 22nd, 2005, 14:37

i was actually up flying on monday night around the vero beach area and heard the conversation between miami center and the coast guard chopper when they were coming back from the search. but i didnt know till know that is was for a plane.

June 20th, 2005, 19:41	#1
SierraPilot Junior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: soon to be Vero Beach Posts: 136	More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) MIAMI -- The Coast Guard is searching for two small planes that likely crashed Monday off south Florida coasts -- one near Port St. Lucie and the other south of Sanibel. A single-engine Piper carrying three people possibly crashed 25 miles east of Port St. Lucie Monday morning. Officials said the aircraft was traveling from the Bahamas to Fort Pierce. Minutes later, a second report came in of a possible plane crash 18 miles south of Sanibel. One person was aboard the Cessna that departed from Naples and was heading to Key West. The Federal Aviation Administration alerted the Coast Guard about the possible crashes.

June 20th, 2005, 21:46	#2
MrSandman Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 67	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) From the standpoint of safety, I still cannot reason why people continue to insist on flying light singles from the Bahamas to mainland Florida. I really would not surprised if they were cruising at 6,000 or so.

June 20th, 2005, 22:37	#3
FlyingNole Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 2,090	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) If you plan your island hopping right, you can make your longest trip over water about 40 min. Still, I wouldn't want to be that far out in a single.

June 20th, 2005, 23:23	#4
Grabo172 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Peterborough, NH Posts: 1,270	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) I'll be doing it in just over 3 weeks... Lloyd just got back... Not unsafe at all, you just need to plan plan plan and plan some more after that.

June 21st, 2005, 00:01	#5
MrSandman Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 67	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) Sure with proper planning, but how many do you think really go to that extent?

June 21st, 2005, 01:43	#6
FlyingNole Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 2,090	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) I would like to say all, but unfortunately that's not the case

June 21st, 2005, 02:14	#7
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,468	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) [ QUOTE ] Sure with proper planning, but how many do you think really go to that extent? [/ QUOTE ] If someone doesn't want to do the planning, there's nothing else you can do. Alot of people run out of gas over dry land because they didn't plan properly. So, should people not fly over dry land?

June 21st, 2005, 03:15	#8
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,529	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) [ QUOTE ] If you plan your island hopping right, you can make your longest trip over water about 40 min. Still, I wouldn't want to be that far out in a single. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I know I've had my engine conk out tons of times after 40 mins of flight. I think a lot of guys are being a little TOO cautious on this. If planned properly, a flight to the Bahamas in a single should be as much of a non-event as one over land. Your engine isn't just gonna die suddenly. There will be hints and clues. If you choose to ignore those clues, then that's a bad call, no matter if you're over land or water. I'd be willing to bet a lot of people that say "I won't fly to the Bahamas in a single" will launch off into the wild blue for a land flight with a malfunctioning guage since they could just divert if things get dicey. Which is the more dangerous of the two?

June 21st, 2005, 13:03	#9
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,113	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) [ QUOTE ] From the standpoint of safety, I still cannot reason why people continue to insist on flying light singles from the Bahamas to mainland Florida. I really would not surprised if they were cruising at 6,000 or so. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Explain please. I do it a lot. Done it about seven times in the past three months. No big deal. The plane doesn't know it's over water. It's no more, or less safe than flying over land IMHO. You take the required safety equipment and do what you are trained to do. As for altitudes - I generally go over at 11,000 and back at about 10,000. However, a large number of folks fly back and forth - every day - at much lower altitudes.

June 21st, 2005, 14:10	#10
FlyingNole Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 2,090	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) Gotta play the odds Kell. Would you rather be over land at 7k, when your engine quits or gives "warning signs" that its going to. Or out of gliding range from land, when your engine starts to go. Ok, the likelyhood of an engine failure while cruising is low, but still, would you want to risk it?

June 21st, 2005, 14:17	#11
Flyboyz Newbie Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida Posts: 24	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) [/ QUOTE ] The plane doesn't know it's over water. [/ QUOTE ] That's funny.

June 21st, 2005, 14:23	#12
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 40,240 Blog Entries: 1	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) Hey R2F - do YOU have 1500/200ME? If so, holla at me.

June 21st, 2005, 14:48	#13
CrazyJ Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Georgetown Ohio/CVG Posts: 130	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) Two words -- BERMUDA TRIANGLE. Explains everything and yet explains nothing. Florida is just having some bad luck.

June 21st, 2005, 14:55	#14
BCTAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 6,059	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) [ QUOTE ] Two words -- BERMUDA TRIANGLE. Explains everything and yet explains nothing. Florida is just having some bad luck. [/ QUOTE ] Damn.

June 21st, 2005, 19:04	#15
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 13,529	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) [ QUOTE ] Gotta play the odds Kell. Would you rather be over land at 7k, when your engine quits or gives "warning signs" that its going to. Or out of gliding range from land, when your engine starts to go. Ok, the likelyhood of an engine failure while cruising is low, but still, would you want to risk it? [/ QUOTE ] If I played those kinda odds, I'd never leave the house. Odds are better of getting sideswiped on I-20 than your engine magically quitting.

June 22nd, 2005, 10:51	#16
ready2fly Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DFW Posts: 7,113	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) [ QUOTE ] Hey R2F - do YOU have 1500/200ME? If so, holla at me. [/ QUOTE ] Check yo PM's bro.

June 22nd, 2005, 14:37	#17
flippedr6 Newbie Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 12	Re: More Florida planes dropping from the sky\'s (4th in 2 weeks) i was actually up flying on monday night around the vero beach area and heard the conversation between miami center and the coast guard chopper when they were coming back from the search. but i didnt know till know that is was for a plane.

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