Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe.

Cachon · June 15th, 2005, 13:01

New supersonic aircraft will be develop on a joint effort
by France & Japan.

This industry is all over the place, some say fuel efficiency is the future, others are betting on jumbo jet's and now supersonic.

Link

Minnesota_Flyer · June 15th, 2005, 14:42

France obviously didn't learn nothin' from the Concorde experience.

BCTAv8r · June 15th, 2005, 14:58

It would be useful if It could be done at a low operating cost so seats don't cost too much. I hope this program works and they do get something out. it is amazing though, as someone else has mentioned, that the aircraft companies are focusing on different markets.

MrSandman · June 16th, 2005, 01:27

Contrary to what I have read by a few years on here, I know that Boeing canceled their SST project a few months back, unless they reopened it.

Not only are there problems with cost efficiency, but you inherently with supersonic flight are sonic booms, and for that very reason, they would not allow the Concorde to fly over the continental US, just over water (at the very start, they did) as to not disturb anyone on the ground.

You always know when the Shuttle is on it's way back to the Cape because of the sonic boom--it's just about impossible to miss.

Callous · June 16th, 2005, 02:51

I wonder what will be next (after the 787) from Boeing? Perhaps they can focus on building a better turboprop. I had hoped that the last American airliner builder would show a little more vision, and that the vision would be a little more Pan-Am and a little less Southwest.

/vent

Cachon · June 16th, 2005, 08:58

Well you never know, they will be looking for ways to reduces fuel consumption and noise.
it will also carry around 300 passengers, three times more than the Concorde. if they can pull this off by reducing
operating expense and carrying that many people and charging a premium for this service it might be a good idea after all.

Minnesota_Flyer · June 16th, 2005, 13:40

[ QUOTE ]
Well you never know, they will be looking for ways to reduces fuel consumption and noise.
it will also carry around 300 passengers, three times more than the Concorde. if they can pull this off by reducing
operating expense and carrying that many people and charging a premium for this service it might be a good idea after all.

[/ QUOTE ]Concorde looked pretty sweet on paper, too. It was only once they started really working on the design and engineering of it that they realized what they had got themselves into.

June 15th, 2005, 13:01	#1
Cachon Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston MA Posts: 200	Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe. New supersonic aircraft will be develop on a joint effort by France & Japan. This industry is all over the place, some say fuel efficiency is the future, others are betting on jumbo jet's and now supersonic. Link

June 15th, 2005, 14:42	#2
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,944	Re: Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe. France obviously didn't learn nothin' from the Concorde experience.

June 15th, 2005, 14:58	#3
BCTAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Boca Raton Posts: 6,132	Re: Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe. It would be useful if It could be done at a low operating cost so seats don't cost too much. I hope this program works and they do get something out. it is amazing though, as someone else has mentioned, that the aircraft companies are focusing on different markets.

June 16th, 2005, 01:27	#4
MrSandman Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 67	Re: Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe. Contrary to what I have read by a few years on here, I know that Boeing canceled their SST project a few months back, unless they reopened it. Not only are there problems with cost efficiency, but you inherently with supersonic flight are sonic booms, and for that very reason, they would not allow the Concorde to fly over the continental US, just over water (at the very start, they did) as to not disturb anyone on the ground. You always know when the Shuttle is on it's way back to the Cape because of the sonic boom--it's just about impossible to miss.

June 16th, 2005, 02:51	#5
Callous Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 356	Re: Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe. I wonder what will be next (after the 787) from Boeing? Perhaps they can focus on building a better turboprop. I had hoped that the last American airliner builder would show a little more vision, and that the vision would be a little more Pan-Am and a little less Southwest. /vent

June 16th, 2005, 08:58	#6
Cachon Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston MA Posts: 200	Re: Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe. Well you never know, they will be looking for ways to reduces fuel consumption and noise. it will also carry around 300 passengers, three times more than the Concorde. if they can pull this off by reducing operating expense and carrying that many people and charging a premium for this service it might be a good idea after all.

June 16th, 2005, 13:40	#7
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,944	Re: Back to the future, supersonic is back! maybe. [ QUOTE ] Well you never know, they will be looking for ways to reduces fuel consumption and noise. it will also carry around 300 passengers, three times more than the Concorde. if they can pull this off by reducing operating expense and carrying that many people and charging a premium for this service it might be a good idea after all. [/ QUOTE ]Concorde looked pretty sweet on paper, too. It was only once they started really working on the design and engineering of it that they realized what they had got themselves into.

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