Sheble Aviation for IFR?

[montanapilot]

I was wondering if anyone had any recent experience with Sheble for flight training. I have done a search but alot of the posts are somewhat dated. I am looking at their IFR program and it seems to be pretty affordable. I was wondering if most people actually get it done in 10 days? Also what is the difference between the Kingman and Henderson locations?

[DE727UPS]

Couldn't you do it locally in 10 days for the same price? Just find a motivated CFII and a school with a sim. Have you passed the written?

[mtsu_av8er]

An Instrument rating can be done incredibly fast, or ncredibly slow. It's amazing to me that people complain that they cant get it done fast enough, yet you can't get them to read more than five pages per night, because it's "too much, and I have a life . . .".

Anyhoo, I think it can be done - I did mine incredibly fast, too! Most CFI's are just scared to touch it because alot of students insist on being lazy!

[UA_Wildcat]

Montana-

Why shebles? Are you interested in the speed of the program or the low cost? Your in a great area to get some good actual if you waited until Fall/Winter.

UA

[montanapilot]

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Montana-

Why shebles? Are you interested in the speed of the program or the low cost? Your in a great area to get some good actual if you waited until Fall/Winter.

UA

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Both, I know i started my IFR here and school and family stuff got in the way this fall. I was just wanting to go somewhere study my ass off and bust it out. I have taken an IFR groundschool through the college and I am almost done studying for the written.

[FOD]

I have heard some bad things about them, had a friend that used to instruct for them who said that he wouldnt trust flying IFR safely with some of the graduates also had a DE who used to do checkrides for them, tell me that he stoped because of the condition of their aircraft were to bad.

[jtrain609]

Kelly,


Bro, get yourself down here to Skymates. The planes are well maintained, the instructors are great and...well me and Steve are already here! Call me if you have questions or need more convincing! You still got my number?

[carlos]

I have no experience with their IFR program, but I took their commercial SEL and MEL course last summer. You should go there fully prepared to take the checkride when you arrive. There was just a couple of hours of ground for each course, covering the minimum needed to pass the oral (they know exactly what the examiners will be asking). The flights too were minimal, basically just a checkout to see if you are ready to take the practical.

If you are looking to actually learn much in these courses, I would suggest looking elsewhere. If you are already prepared to take the checkride and just want a quick finish-up course, then it's great.

The airplanes were fine. Nothing fancy, but they were airworthy.

[KLB]

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Kelly,


Bro, get yourself down here to Skymates. The planes are well maintained, the instructors are great and...well me and Steve are already here! Call me if you have questions or need more convincing! You still got my number?

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[Josh]

I think Shebles is find for training, but like anything, you need to be prepared. Like any faster course, you are the one doing the learning, you can't just get plugged into the Matrix

Disadvantage of the Henderson location is you'll do the ILS at McCarren, at a VERY early hour of the morning. Most of the instructors when I was done there said 3-5am was the norm to try and get practice approaches in there. Just for that, I'd recommend the AZ location. That is their "main" office, where they have a real building instead of just a large double-wide trailer at HND.

But I'd say go for some real actual. There is a guy at my home airport who does a 10 day course. You are the only student, and the plane is all yours. Complete 1on1 for the 10 days. www.ifrsolutions.com
We get for about 1/3 of the days around here, so you'd have some actual time, rather than being under the hood for all the stuff down in the desert. I've avoided doing my CFII until I feel I can compete with what he offers.

I'm sure there are other places like this. Maybe something in your area even, that will offer some actual time.
For the price, Shebles can't be beat without a club or some other discount type deal. ADP in SoCal is another one kinda like them if you want to be in smog all the time

[pscraig]

Everyone in the Vegas area has to go up in the early hours to fly the McCarran ILS-at 3am you'll hear a pair of ATP Seminoles, a Sheble plane or two, a Scenic twin otter, and a few others all shooting approaches. Nice smooth air, patient controllers, no visual distractions. I actually miss those flights!

I've heard mixed reviews of Sheble, from former students as well as a DPE they used in the past. For something like a multi rating or an ATP they are probably fine, but I would get the best instrument training my money and time would allow. You are building the rest of your career on the instrument skills you will learn, don't cut any corners.

I'd also suggest some actual-there's nothing like the real thing for training.