For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

futuraapilot · April 3rd, 2005, 13:37

This is something I am showing you because I want to help you guys out. If you want to have a more secure pilot job, fly newer and better planes, then you should cross the atlantic, cross africa, and look into Emirates.
Their smallest plane is a A330-200, and they say it's too small.Minimum requirements aren't that high,and time to command is 3 years.
Here are some websites

http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com
and another site will be posted later on.
OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

futuraapilot · April 3rd, 2005, 13:45

By the way, you people may think that due to the geographic situation of the y that you will be oppressed, TOTALLY WRONG. Here is what a Canadian had to say

(Dude, easy on plugging other sites, bro -DT)

Now imagine yourself waking up, knowing that you will have a pilot job, going to your A330-200(minimum but they are looking to replace them because they are 2 small) and flying let's say dubai manchester, after 3 years you're in the left seat

Doug Taylor · April 3rd, 2005, 13:50

No thanks.

I like pork ribs, beer, and the many benefits of living in the great US of A to give it all up to live in Dubai. I'm sure it's a great country but after your first month, an airplane is an airplane is an airplane.

Seggy · April 3rd, 2005, 13:51

[ QUOTE ]
Minimum requirements aren't that high,and time to command is 3 years.

[/ QUOTE ]

???????

Requirements for Position of First Officer - A330/A340 and B777

A minimum of 4000 hours total flying time
A minimum of 2000 hours multi-crew, multi-engined jet aircraft experience
ICAO ATPL
Applicants must be less than 49 years on joining
English language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
Experience commensurate with age
Type rated would be advantageous

????

For the youngins on here like me those hours are A LONG time away.

MQAAord · April 3rd, 2005, 14:16

That's nice and all, but how would it feel for the family of a pilot to be uprooted and shipped off to Dubai?

No thanks.

Timbuff10 · April 3rd, 2005, 15:03

If they open a base in Denver, I'm in! Till then, I like my 172.

eeg · April 3rd, 2005, 15:59

Not no, but HELL NO!!!

I like right here in the USA. I really don't care how liberal Dubai is, and how great that airline is. The fact is that there's allot of people in that region that hate, really hate Americans so why should I put my family through that. The only region that I wouldn't mind moving to would be the Caribbean and South America.

Cherokee_Cruiser · April 3rd, 2005, 16:16

[ QUOTE ]
No thanks.

I like pork ribs, beer, and the many benefits of living in the great US of A to give it all up to live in Dubai. I'm sure it's a great country but after your first month, an airplane is an airplane is an airplane.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm sure you can find the same kinds of ribs, beer, and anything else in Dubai as well.

[ QUOTE ]
Not no, but HELL NO!!!

I like right here in the USA. I really don't care how liberal Dubai is, and how great that airline is. The fact is that there's allot of people in that region that hate, really hate Americans so why should I put my family through that. The only region that I wouldn't mind moving to would be the Caribbean and South America.

[/ QUOTE ]

"In that region hate..."

There are so many white people there, Britians, Australians, Canadians, Americans, that you will fit in. I highly doubt you would have trouble livling in Dubai simply because you're American.

On Pprune, there's this guy, Typhoonpilot[something], he's an American who flies for Emirates. He was a furloughed US Airways pilot. He loves it there, and said he wouldn't have hesitated to do it again (he said he was glad to leave USless Airways).

Take it for what it's worth, I guess...

Cherokee_Cruiser · April 3rd, 2005, 16:36

I'd like to add one more thing, for anyone who is considering Emirates.

The 3 year upgrade is gone. They are taking Direct Entry Captains (DECS). As a result, newhire F/Os should now expect 5 to 7 years for an upgrade. Apparently, it's cheaper to hire DECS and train them than it is to upgrade from within.

5-7 years isn't too bad, though.

Kingairer · April 3rd, 2005, 17:00

Flying a Bigger Airplane isnt everything.

Bandit_Driver · April 3rd, 2005, 17:22

No Thanks. The USA is just too good to leave even if the airlines are currently having a bad time....

IT_Pilot · April 3rd, 2005, 17:27

Now that could be quite an adventure...If I was single, footloose and fancy free. In fact most aviation jobs would be if it was just me and worrying about calling home to mom.

However, I'm getting married next year and I don't want to throw things like that into the mix. I'd tell you to go for it.

cmsuav8r · April 3rd, 2005, 17:30

Hell no! I would have to kick my own ass if I lived there! I guess I just like america alot!

Derek_S · April 3rd, 2005, 17:48

There's no way I could even think about leaving the U.S. Proud to be an American! And if I wanted to retire in some tropical region, I'd just go to Hawaii.

Texguy · April 3rd, 2005, 18:33

AMERICA: So great that Iain stayed!

Thair81 · April 3rd, 2005, 19:02

If I had the choice of international air carriers I would definitely go for either British Airways (come on let's face it, they are the best

) or Qantas (a very close second

). However, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for a job with either of these companies (...and reality quickly sets back in after a brief trip through fantasy land

).
As for working for Emirates, it sounds nice and it would be great to fly their planes but I can't say anything about life in Dubai as I've never been, so I can't hold any judgement in that regard. It might be nice, it might not. Who knows. Maybe one day I'll find out. I have lived in England and the U.S. but am quite happy and content to be home in Canada with good beer and hockey pucks, eh!!

SteveC · April 3rd, 2005, 19:09

I spent some time in the Middle East in years past and enjoyed my stays there. I've heard good things about Dubai, but never been there. With different circumstances in my personal life, I'd certainly consider living there.

kellwolf · April 3rd, 2005, 19:55

Honestly, I wouldn't mind leaving the US for a job at an airline, and I wouldn't rule out the Middle East. However, with those mins, I'd prefer to stay here and fly for a regional (or even better, enjoy the fruits of my labot at SWA eventually) instead of moving my family across the world. Now if Lufthansa comes a calling......

Cherokee_Cruiser · April 3rd, 2005, 20:17

MOST of Emirates pilots are all expats. The top three nationalities are British, Australian, and Canadian. Here are some Emirates flight crews.

(obnoxiously large photos removed -DT)

I'll say this, though... if I was qualified, and I was interviewed, and they hired me, I'd be the FIRST one out to DXB !!!

BCTAv8r · April 3rd, 2005, 20:55

And for the equipment they're flying, they seem considerably young too. It seems like a great opportunity if Dubai really ins't a bad place to live.

seagull · April 3rd, 2005, 21:22

If anything ever happened to my job (unlikely), I'd go to Emirates in a second. DXB is a great place, and the company is a great airline. Actually, the manager of their training and standards (as well as their pilot recruitment) is a friend of mine, and I would not mind working for him at all!

I_Money · April 4th, 2005, 00:44

[ QUOTE ]
... great US of A to give it all up to live in Dubai. I'm sure it's a great country....

[/ QUOTE ]

Dubai is not a country - it is actually a city!

Dubai is considered the new Hong Kong - a dynamic, multicultural center were there is ample opportunity to go around!

Emirates is considered one of the best airlines in the sky today, they probably have taken over from BA, and Singapore.

shinysideup · April 4th, 2005, 01:06

Where do I sign up.... Hell yeah Dubai is an increadable city, as far as I have heard,haven't visited yet, but wouldnt mide emerates either.

Screaming_Emu · April 4th, 2005, 02:49

I'd love to go there if the rest of the region was a bit more stable. If that happened I'd be there in a heartbeat. I'd much rather go to asia though. I think I could live the rest of my life in Japan and be happy.

Doug Taylor · April 4th, 2005, 04:06

I dunno, perhaps I'm the odd man out here, but considering the dangerous state of US/Middle East relations, you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move there just to fly airplanes.

I'd certainly feel like a deer in the woods of Wisconsin "in season".

Hell, I can fly a Cessna in Arizona and get the fix.

April 3rd, 2005, 13:37	#1
futuraapilot Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is something I am showing you because I want to help you guys out. If you want to have a more secure pilot job, fly newer and better planes, then you should cross the atlantic, cross africa, and look into Emirates. Their smallest plane is a A330-200, and they say it's too small.Minimum requirements aren't that high,and time to command is 3 years. Here are some websites http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com and another site will be posted later on. OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

April 3rd, 2005, 13:45	#2
futuraapilot Newbie Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 21	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, you people may think that due to the geographic situation of the y that you will be oppressed, TOTALLY WRONG. Here is what a Canadian had to say (Dude, easy on plugging other sites, bro -DT) Now imagine yourself waking up, knowing that you will have a pilot job, going to your A330-200(minimum but they are looking to replace them because they are 2 small) and flying let's say dubai manchester, after 3 years you're in the left seat

April 3rd, 2005, 13:50	#3
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 42,703 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No thanks. I like pork ribs, beer, and the many benefits of living in the great US of A to give it all up to live in Dubai. I'm sure it's a great country but after your first month, an airplane is an airplane is an airplane.

April 3rd, 2005, 13:51	#4
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 5,713	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] Minimum requirements aren't that high,and time to command is 3 years. [/ QUOTE ] ??????? Requirements for Position of First Officer - A330/A340 and B777 A minimum of 4000 hours total flying time A minimum of 2000 hours multi-crew, multi-engined jet aircraft experience ICAO ATPL Applicants must be less than 49 years on joining English language fluency (written and verbal comprehension) Experience commensurate with age Type rated would be advantageous ???? For the youngins on here like me those hours are A LONG time away.

April 3rd, 2005, 14:16	#5
MQAAord Cupcakinator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin Posts: 9,941	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's nice and all, but how would it feel for the family of a pilot to be uprooted and shipped off to Dubai? No thanks.

April 3rd, 2005, 15:03	#6
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If they open a base in Denver, I'm in! Till then, I like my 172.

April 3rd, 2005, 15:59	#7
eeg Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fo\' Laudydaudy, FL. Posts: 235	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not no, but HELL NO!!! I like right here in the USA. I really don't care how liberal Dubai is, and how great that airline is. The fact is that there's allot of people in that region that hate, really hate Americans so why should I put my family through that. The only region that I wouldn't mind moving to would be the Caribbean and South America.

April 3rd, 2005, 16:16	#8
Cherokee_Cruiser Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,419	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] No thanks. I like pork ribs, beer, and the many benefits of living in the great US of A to give it all up to live in Dubai. I'm sure it's a great country but after your first month, an airplane is an airplane is an airplane. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sure you can find the same kinds of ribs, beer, and anything else in Dubai as well. [ QUOTE ] Not no, but HELL NO!!! I like right here in the USA. I really don't care how liberal Dubai is, and how great that airline is. The fact is that there's allot of people in that region that hate, really hate Americans so why should I put my family through that. The only region that I wouldn't mind moving to would be the Caribbean and South America. [/ QUOTE ] "In that region hate..." There are so many white people there, Britians, Australians, Canadians, Americans, that you will fit in. I highly doubt you would have trouble livling in Dubai simply because you're American. On Pprune, there's this guy, Typhoonpilot[something], he's an American who flies for Emirates. He was a furloughed US Airways pilot. He loves it there, and said he wouldn't have hesitated to do it again (he said he was glad to leave USless Airways). Take it for what it's worth, I guess...

April 3rd, 2005, 16:36	#9
Cherokee_Cruiser Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,419	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd like to add one more thing, for anyone who is considering Emirates. The 3 year upgrade is gone. They are taking Direct Entry Captains (DECS). As a result, newhire F/Os should now expect 5 to 7 years for an upgrade. Apparently, it's cheaper to hire DECS and train them than it is to upgrade from within. 5-7 years isn't too bad, though.

April 3rd, 2005, 17:00	#10
Kingairer Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer Posts: 3,229	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Flying a Bigger Airplane isnt everything.

April 3rd, 2005, 17:22	#11
Bandit_Driver Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DTW Posts: 1,969	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Thanks. The USA is just too good to leave even if the airlines are currently having a bad time....

April 3rd, 2005, 17:27	#12
IT_Pilot Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 131	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that could be quite an adventure...If I was single, footloose and fancy free. In fact most aviation jobs would be if it was just me and worrying about calling home to mom. However, I'm getting married next year and I don't want to throw things like that into the mix. I'd tell you to go for it.

April 3rd, 2005, 17:30	#13
cmsuav8r Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Warrensburg, MO/ KC, MO Posts: 596	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell no! I would have to kick my own ass if I lived there! I guess I just like america alot!

April 3rd, 2005, 17:48	#14
Derek_S Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 398	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's no way I could even think about leaving the U.S. Proud to be an American! And if I wanted to retire in some tropical region, I'd just go to Hawaii.

April 3rd, 2005, 18:33	#15
Texguy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: KAUS Posts: 850	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AMERICA: So great that Iain stayed!

April 3rd, 2005, 19:02	#16
Thair81 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: CNZ8 Posts: 108	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I had the choice of international air carriers I would definitely go for either British Airways (come on let's face it, they are the best ) or Qantas (a very close second ). However, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for a job with either of these companies (...and reality quickly sets back in after a brief trip through fantasy land ). As for working for Emirates, it sounds nice and it would be great to fly their planes but I can't say anything about life in Dubai as I've never been, so I can't hold any judgement in that regard. It might be nice, it might not. Who knows. Maybe one day I'll find out. I have lived in England and the U.S. but am quite happy and content to be home in Canada with good beer and hockey pucks, eh!!

April 3rd, 2005, 19:09	#17
SteveC Ameliorator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 9,103	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I spent some time in the Middle East in years past and enjoyed my stays there. I've heard good things about Dubai, but never been there. With different circumstances in my personal life, I'd certainly consider living there.

April 3rd, 2005, 19:55	#18
kellwolf Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 14,665	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Honestly, I wouldn't mind leaving the US for a job at an airline, and I wouldn't rule out the Middle East. However, with those mins, I'd prefer to stay here and fly for a regional (or even better, enjoy the fruits of my labot at SWA eventually) instead of moving my family across the world. Now if Lufthansa comes a calling......

April 3rd, 2005, 20:17	#19
Cherokee_Cruiser Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,419	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOST of Emirates pilots are all expats. The top three nationalities are British, Australian, and Canadian. Here are some Emirates flight crews. (obnoxiously large photos removed -DT) I'll say this, though... if I was qualified, and I was interviewed, and they hired me, I'd be the FIRST one out to DXB !!!

April 3rd, 2005, 20:55	#20
BCTAv8r Old Skool Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 6,376	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And for the equipment they're flying, they seem considerably young too. It seems like a great opportunity if Dubai really ins't a bad place to live.

April 3rd, 2005, 21:22	#21
seagull Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 2,048	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If anything ever happened to my job (unlikely), I'd go to Emirates in a second. DXB is a great place, and the company is a great airline. Actually, the manager of their training and standards (as well as their pilot recruitment) is a friend of mine, and I would not mind working for him at all!

April 4th, 2005, 00:44	#22
I_Money Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal Posts: 5,697	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] ... great US of A to give it all up to live in Dubai. I'm sure it's a great country.... [/ QUOTE ] Dubai is not a country - it is actually a city! Dubai is considered the new Hong Kong - a dynamic, multicultural center were there is ample opportunity to go around! Emirates is considered one of the best airlines in the sky today, they probably have taken over from BA, and Singapore.

April 4th, 2005, 01:06	#23
shinysideup Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ohio, no, Florida, Michigan, Atl, no, Cape Cod, LA, no I am in DC now!!! Posts: 437	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where do I sign up.... Hell yeah Dubai is an increadable city, as far as I have heard,haven't visited yet, but wouldnt mide emerates either.

April 4th, 2005, 02:49	#24
Screaming_Emu Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 3,412	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'd love to go there if the rest of the region was a bit more stable. If that happened I'd be there in a heartbeat. I'd much rather go to asia though. I think I could live the rest of my life in Japan and be happy.

April 4th, 2005, 04:06	#25
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 42,703 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I dunno, perhaps I'm the odd man out here, but considering the dangerous state of US/Middle East relations, you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move there just to fly airplanes. I'd certainly feel like a deer in the woods of Wisconsin "in season". Hell, I can fly a Cessna in Arizona and get the fix.

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