For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Page 2

JEP · April 4th, 2005, 08:53

Just to echo what one of our resident Englishman has said,

Dubai is a very modern city that would rival any major metropolitan area in the world. And yes I have been there. I have also been to the port city of Jebel Ali which is also in the United Arab Emirates. I believe there are 7 Emirates if my memory serves me correct.

They have everyting that you could imagine you would need:
world class golf
polo (for you Iain)
shopping malls
major hotels
beautiful beaches
year-round sun

You name it, you got it. I saw no problem whatso ever with living there. I would do it no problem. Now getting my wife and kids to move may be a problem. It might be slightly different during Ramadan but other than that, the people were great and the country as well.

Cherokee_Cruiser · April 4th, 2005, 14:29

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(obnoxiously large photos removed -DT)

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I'm hurt.

Just a "photos too large - removed" woulda worked

Cachon · April 4th, 2005, 19:18

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I dunno, perhaps I'm the odd man out here, but considering the dangerous state of US/Middle East relations, you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move there just to fly airplanes.

I'd certainly feel like a deer in the woods of Wisconsin "in season".

Hell, I can fly a Cessna in Arizona and get the fix.

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I'm Hispanic and you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move to some areas here in the USA.

eeg · April 4th, 2005, 19:41

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I dunno, perhaps I'm the odd man out here, but considering the dangerous state of US/Middle East relations, you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move there just to fly airplanes.

I'd certainly feel like a deer in the woods of Wisconsin "in season".

Hell, I can fly a Cessna in Arizona and get the fix.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'm Hispanic and you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move to some areas here in the USA.

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lol

Doug Taylor · April 4th, 2005, 20:04

I used to feel the same way being a 'brotha' but luckily in all of my 34 years, I haven't had a problem at all.

Maximillian_Jenius · April 4th, 2005, 20:39

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You name it, you got it. I saw no problem whatso ever with living there. I would do it no problem. It might be slightly different during Ramadan but other than that, the people were great and the country as well.

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What is there opinion bout da gays? Would I experience that quick muslim trial that I have heard about? Followed by an even quicker (10 mins. later) execution?

-Matthew

sleepy3528 · April 5th, 2005, 00:53

Its not the size of the airplane that matters!! haha I wouldnt mind it but why would you want to leave the USA where in 5-7 years you could be getting PIC jet time that counts for about the same. it may not be as cool as flying an A300 but unless your only gonna be in the game for a short while i dont see the point. I would rather pay my dues and get seniority with a major carrier. If you that into the Transcon routes why not fly corporate?

SteveC · April 5th, 2005, 08:41

Nice sig line.

JEP · April 5th, 2005, 09:37

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What is there opinion bout da gays? Would I experience that quick muslim trial that I have heard about?

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That's a question I could not answer. While I did not experience any trouble whatsoever, it seemed as if there were two different worlds that coexisted but didn't venture too far either way. Does that make sense? You had the people from the U.A.E. and then the visitors and it jsut seemed to work. They have their ways there and if you croosed them then one could get into trouble.

Example; we were told not to photograph the Arab women (beautiful as they were), especially in there native garb (veils) sorry if I missed the correct term. Well one drunk ignorant sailor (not all of us were like that) decided to do so and promptly had his camera taken and destroyed by her male acquaintance.

While I can't answer your question directly, I would like to think that you would be fine. I get the feeling it was like, "you do your thing and we'll do our's)" and as long as we can peacefully co-exist, Great!

(and the shopping was outstanding, especially the gold souks !)

FlyChicaga · April 5th, 2005, 14:42

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Nice sig line.

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Funny 'cause often times it's a half-truth!

Cherokee_Cruiser · April 5th, 2005, 18:52

Are you guys talking about my signature line ??? Those aren't my quotes. I found them by one guy that posts on flightinfo, and I thought it was hilarious.

Those are NOT mine! In fact, let me put the 'Posted by ...' line back in.

SteveC · April 5th, 2005, 19:07

Nope. I was responding to the post immediately before mine.

Maximillian_Jenius · April 5th, 2005, 19:09

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While I can't answer your question directly, I would like to think that you would be fine. I get the feeling it was like, "you do your thing and we'll do our's)" and as long as we can peacefully co-exist, Great!

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What about Iran?

-Matthew

MikeD · April 5th, 2005, 19:16

Dubai had some hot Russian women when I went through there.

I see I have many potential JC-Air America recruits in this thread.........

JEP · April 5th, 2005, 19:27

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Dubai had some hot Russian women when I went through there.

I see I have many potential JC-Air America recruits in this thread.........

[/ QUOTE ]

Do I have to resign every year?

What's the re-enlistment bonus and where do I sign.

GJ1 · April 5th, 2005, 20:28

I know I wouldnt take that flying job. just because the UAE is stable now, who says it will be stable in five years from now?

Cherokee_Cruiser · April 5th, 2005, 20:35

UAE itself has been stable. Dubai has grown incredibly during the last few years, and the trend continues. CNN.com reported that Dubai will build the world's tallest building to be completed by 2008.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/03/31/e....ap/index.html

Dubai is flourishing. I can't speak for other UAE cities like Sharjah, Al Ain, Abu Dhabi, but nothing seems to show instability in UAE.

Now instability in the middle east region, that's a whole different story. We had the Gulf War, and now the Iraq conflict, but UAE and Bahrain seem do be doing great.

From a current EK pilot, Emirates has about 1200 pilots, 25 of those Americans, and some more on the way. 90% of pilots are expats. and 10 % are local. Most expats. are Aus, Brit, Canadians.

JEP · April 5th, 2005, 20:39

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I know I wouldnt take that flying job. just because the UAE is stable now, who says it will be stable in five years from now?

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I was in the UAE in 93, it was stable then and has been stable since that time. There's no reason to think it will be any different. Who's to say that the U.S. will be stable or any other country for that matter.

JEP · April 5th, 2005, 20:43

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UAE itself has been stable. Dubai has grown incredibly during the last few years, and the trend continues.....Dubai is flourishing. I can't speak for other UAE cities like Sharjah, Al Ain, Abu Dhabi, but nothing seems to show instability in UAE......We had the Gulf War, and now the Iraq conflict, but UAE and Bahrain seem do be doing great........

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We were in Abu Dhabi as well during the same time period and I really saw nothing any different as far as the stability goes. Dubai is/was a great time and I'd love to go there again. I would rank Dubai right up there with Sydney and Perth as the favorite stops on the trip.

I_Money · April 5th, 2005, 23:07

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What about Iran?

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My mum used to be a Flight Attendant for Iran Air - that was before the revolution. She said it was wonderful, she worked on the 747SP when they were new, she flew from London, to New York, to Tehran and back to London.

Doug Taylor · April 6th, 2005, 00:25

Geez,Daff! Not like you'd have any advantage in Dubai, right?

At least if you don't mention any ties to the Ottoman Empire!

April 4th, 2005, 08:53	#26
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,869 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just to echo what one of our resident Englishman has said, Dubai is a very modern city that would rival any major metropolitan area in the world. And yes I have been there. I have also been to the port city of Jebel Ali which is also in the United Arab Emirates. I believe there are 7 Emirates if my memory serves me correct. They have everyting that you could imagine you would need: world class golf polo (for you Iain) shopping malls major hotels beautiful beaches year-round sun You name it, you got it. I saw no problem whatso ever with living there. I would do it no problem. Now getting my wife and kids to move may be a problem. It might be slightly different during Ramadan but other than that, the people were great and the country as well.

April 4th, 2005, 14:29	#27
Cherokee_Cruiser Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,419	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] (obnoxiously large photos removed -DT) [/ QUOTE ] I'm hurt. Just a "photos too large - removed" woulda worked

April 4th, 2005, 19:18	#28
Cachon Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston MA Posts: 200	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] I dunno, perhaps I'm the odd man out here, but considering the dangerous state of US/Middle East relations, you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move there just to fly airplanes. I'd certainly feel like a deer in the woods of Wisconsin "in season". Hell, I can fly a Cessna in Arizona and get the fix. [/ QUOTE ] I'm Hispanic and you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move to some areas here in the USA.

April 4th, 2005, 19:41	#29
eeg Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Fo\' Laudydaudy, FL. Posts: 235	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I dunno, perhaps I'm the odd man out here, but considering the dangerous state of US/Middle East relations, you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move there just to fly airplanes. I'd certainly feel like a deer in the woods of Wisconsin "in season". Hell, I can fly a Cessna in Arizona and get the fix. [/ QUOTE ] I'm Hispanic and you couldn't pay me enough to voluntarily move to some areas here in the USA. [/ QUOTE ] lol

April 4th, 2005, 20:04	#30
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,096 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I used to feel the same way being a 'brotha' but luckily in all of my 34 years, I haven't had a problem at all.

April 4th, 2005, 20:39	#31
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 19,000	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] You name it, you got it. I saw no problem whatso ever with living there. I would do it no problem. It might be slightly different during Ramadan but other than that, the people were great and the country as well. [/ QUOTE ] What is there opinion bout da gays? Would I experience that quick muslim trial that I have heard about? Followed by an even quicker (10 mins. later) execution? -Matthew

April 5th, 2005, 00:53	#32
sleepy3528 Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: NJ/ NY, USA Posts: 52	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its not the size of the airplane that matters!! haha I wouldnt mind it but why would you want to leave the USA where in 5-7 years you could be getting PIC jet time that counts for about the same. it may not be as cool as flying an A300 but unless your only gonna be in the game for a short while i dont see the point. I would rather pay my dues and get seniority with a major carrier. If you that into the Transcon routes why not fly corporate?

April 5th, 2005, 08:41	#33
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,619	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice sig line.

April 5th, 2005, 09:37	#34
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,869 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] What is there opinion bout da gays? Would I experience that quick muslim trial that I have heard about? [/ QUOTE ] That's a question I could not answer. While I did not experience any trouble whatsoever, it seemed as if there were two different worlds that coexisted but didn't venture too far either way. Does that make sense? You had the people from the U.A.E. and then the visitors and it jsut seemed to work. They have their ways there and if you croosed them then one could get into trouble. Example; we were told not to photograph the Arab women (beautiful as they were), especially in there native garb (veils) sorry if I missed the correct term. Well one drunk ignorant sailor (not all of us were like that) decided to do so and promptly had his camera taken and destroyed by her male acquaintance. While I can't answer your question directly, I would like to think that you would be fine. I get the feeling it was like, "you do your thing and we'll do our's)" and as long as we can peacefully co-exist, Great! (and the shopping was outstanding, especially the gold souks !)

April 5th, 2005, 14:42	#35
FlyChicaga Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,833	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] Nice sig line. [/ QUOTE ] Funny 'cause often times it's a half-truth!

April 5th, 2005, 18:52	#36
Cherokee_Cruiser Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,419	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you guys talking about my signature line ??? Those aren't my quotes. I found them by one guy that posts on flightinfo, and I thought it was hilarious. Those are NOT mine! In fact, let me put the 'Posted by ...' line back in.

April 5th, 2005, 19:07	#37
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,619	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nope. I was responding to the post immediately before mine.

April 5th, 2005, 19:09	#38
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 19,000	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] While I can't answer your question directly, I would like to think that you would be fine. I get the feeling it was like, "you do your thing and we'll do our's)" and as long as we can peacefully co-exist, Great! [/ QUOTE ] What about Iran? -Matthew

April 5th, 2005, 19:16	#39
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dubai had some hot Russian women when I went through there. I see I have many potential JC-Air America recruits in this thread.........

April 5th, 2005, 19:27	#40
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,869 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] Dubai had some hot Russian women when I went through there. I see I have many potential JC-Air America recruits in this thread......... [/ QUOTE ] Do I have to resign every year? What's the re-enlistment bonus and where do I sign.

April 5th, 2005, 20:28	#41
GJ1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 608	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know I wouldnt take that flying job. just because the UAE is stable now, who says it will be stable in five years from now?

April 5th, 2005, 20:35	#42
Cherokee_Cruiser Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 1,419	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UAE itself has been stable. Dubai has grown incredibly during the last few years, and the trend continues. CNN.com reported that Dubai will build the world's tallest building to be completed by 2008. http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/03/31/e....ap/index.html Dubai is flourishing. I can't speak for other UAE cities like Sharjah, Al Ain, Abu Dhabi, but nothing seems to show instability in UAE. Now instability in the middle east region, that's a whole different story. We had the Gulf War, and now the Iraq conflict, but UAE and Bahrain seem do be doing great. From a current EK pilot, Emirates has about 1200 pilots, 25 of those Americans, and some more on the way. 90% of pilots are expats. and 10 % are local. Most expats. are Aus, Brit, Canadians.

April 5th, 2005, 20:39	#43
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,869 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] I know I wouldnt take that flying job. just because the UAE is stable now, who says it will be stable in five years from now? [/ QUOTE ] I was in the UAE in 93, it was stable then and has been stable since that time. There's no reason to think it will be any different. Who's to say that the U.S. will be stable or any other country for that matter.

April 5th, 2005, 20:43	#44
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,869 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] UAE itself has been stable. Dubai has grown incredibly during the last few years, and the trend continues.....Dubai is flourishing. I can't speak for other UAE cities like Sharjah, Al Ain, Abu Dhabi, but nothing seems to show instability in UAE......We had the Gulf War, and now the Iraq conflict, but UAE and Bahrain seem do be doing great........ [/ QUOTE ] We were in Abu Dhabi as well during the same time period and I really saw nothing any different as far as the stability goes. Dubai is/was a great time and I'd love to go there again. I would rank Dubai right up there with Sydney and Perth as the favorite stops on the trip.

April 5th, 2005, 23:07	#45
I_Money Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal Posts: 5,671	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ QUOTE ] What about Iran? [/ QUOTE ] My mum used to be a Flight Attendant for Iran Air - that was before the revolution. She said it was wonderful, she worked on the 747SP when they were new, she flew from London, to New York, to Tehran and back to London.

April 6th, 2005, 00:25	#46
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,096 Blog Entries: 1	Re: For All You Airline Pilots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Geez,Daff! Not like you'd have any advantage in Dubai, right? At least if you don't mention any ties to the Ottoman Empire!

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