Shadow Program

mtsu_av8er · March 14th, 2005, 00:56

So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. They get to eat with me, sit in on ground lessons and fly when possible (in anything with enough seats). The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation.

Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!!

I_Money · March 14th, 2005, 01:06

I jumpsat on an A340 LAX-LHR, I stayed in the cockpit for the first hour, went back to the cabin had a proper drink, went back up to the cockpit chatted with the guys, went back to my seat again (it was boring up there) went to sleep, woke up as we were over Scotland, and walked up to the cockpit and took the jumpseat for landing (well until I got kicked out for a seatbelt malfunction, in first class - no other seats were avaliable!).

I learnt a lot about being a pilot that day - how boring cruise was!!

DE727UPS · March 14th, 2005, 01:08

No...but I'd love to. How did they find out about you?

mtsu_av8er · March 14th, 2005, 01:11

I learned about the program, and volunteered! None of the other instructors seemed to have any interest, but I sure did! What an opportunity!

None of the students are forced into it, either. They're paired up with people in a field that interests them, and nobody is forced to spend time with the lads. It's 100% volunteer.

Not bad, huh?

Maximillian_Jenius · March 14th, 2005, 01:11

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So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work.

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So what they don't have to go to school for a solid week?

-Matthew

mtsu_av8er · March 14th, 2005, 01:12

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So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work.

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So what they don't have to go to school for a solid week?

-Matthew

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That's it! However, they have to hang with me from 0700 until about 1700.....longer days, without their buds!!

Maximillian_Jenius · March 14th, 2005, 01:18

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That's it! However, they have to hang with me from 0700 until about 1700.....longer days, without their buds!!

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Okay...thats awesome. Is it safe to have four people in a 172?
Do the two guys both want to be airline pilots or have a career in aviation? What are there career goals?

-Matthew

mtsu_av8er · March 14th, 2005, 01:23

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Is it safe to have four people in a 172?

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Without a doubt! Now, probably not with full fuel (depending on the size of all parties involved). I've flown 172s with four adult men! Now, we may have only had full fuel, but we were safe!

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Do the two guys both want to be airline pilots or have a career in aviation? What are there career goals?

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Not sure yet....I'll know bright and early!!

Maximillian_Jenius · March 14th, 2005, 01:29

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Is it safe to have four people in a 172?

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Without a doubt! Now, probably not with full fuel (depending on the size of all parties involved). I've flown 172s with four adult men! Now, we may have only had full fuel, but we were safe!

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Oh jus wanted to know cause we couldn't take more then two people up in a 172 when I was getting my PPL full tanks or otherwise.
Granted it was summer time in TUS and between 110-115 degrees.

-Matthew

planejay · March 14th, 2005, 01:33

Lloyd, that is awesome that you are letting them tag along. The shadow program is how I got started in aviation. I am very thankful for the program, the instructors, and students that had to deal with me for that day (ours wasn't a week long). This was the only opportunity I had ever had to get a glimpse of the field and loved every minute of it. From then on I was hooked and still after the big goal. Thats my story...well the shorter less boring version.

mtsu_av8er · March 14th, 2005, 01:33

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Is it safe to have four people in a 172?

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Without a doubt! Now, probably not with full fuel (depending on the size of all parties involved). I've flown 172s with four adult men! Now, we may have only had full fuel, but we were safe!

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Oh jus wanted to know cause we couldn't take more then two people up in a 172 when I was getting my PPL full tanks or otherwise.
Granted it was summer time in TUS and between 110-115 degrees.

-Matthew

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It can be done. Now, it's going to take a bit of runway, and the climb rate won't be spectacular in those conditions. At those temps (and the accompanying density altitude), it's going to be a long, scary climb....

I_Money · March 14th, 2005, 01:39

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Is it safe to have four people in a 172?

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Without a doubt! Now, probably not with full fuel (depending on the size of all parties involved). I've flown 172s with four adult men! Now, we may have only had full fuel, but we were safe!

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh jus wanted to know cause we couldn't take more then two people up in a 172 when I was getting my PPL full tanks or otherwise.
Granted it was summer time in TUS and between 110-115 degrees.

-Matthew

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It can be done. Now, it's going to take a bit of runway, and the climb rate won't be spectacular in those conditions. At those temps (and the accompanying density altitude), it's going to be a long, scary climb....

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I am more concerned about having 4 people in the plane in those temps - imagine if someone was sick!!!! EWWW!!!

USMCmech · March 14th, 2005, 02:08

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Is it safe to have four people in a 172?

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I've had five people in a C-182.

Me plus four jumpers, and two of those guys hadn't missed any meals.

The DZ owner claimed he had taken off with five jumpers before.

MikeD · March 14th, 2005, 02:12

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So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work.

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I expect them to know the Manual of Arms forwards and back by the end of the week.

JEP · March 14th, 2005, 02:20

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How did they find out about you?

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Don't you know,

His milk shake brings all the boys to the yard

Just be nice to them in the plane!!

flyover · March 14th, 2005, 09:41

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The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation.

Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!!

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I'm not saying how I learned this, but let me state in the STRONGEST terms possible. DO NOT take them out for a beer after work!

SteveC · March 14th, 2005, 09:55

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The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation.

Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!!

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I'm not saying how I learned this, but let me state in the STRONGEST terms possible. DO NOT take them out for a beer after work!

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....or ask "do you like gladiator movies, Billy?"

Kristie · March 14th, 2005, 13:09

[ QUOTE ]
So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. They get to eat with me, sit in on ground lessons and fly when possible (in anything with enough seats). The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation.

Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!!

[/ QUOTE ]AHHH take your kids to work week huh?! HAHA

btw - still can't see your avatar dude... did they ban you from showing it?

mtsu_av8er · March 14th, 2005, 13:51

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So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. They get to eat with me, sit in on ground lessons and fly when possible (in anything with enough seats). The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation.

Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!!

[/ QUOTE ]AHHH take your kids to work week huh?! HAHA

btw - still can't see your avatar dude... did they ban you from showing it?

[/ QUOTE ]

Ah, yeah....my avatar. I had some issues with my web hosting, and so all my crap is kind of not-accessable while it's getting fixed.

Guess I better get a new one...

March 14th, 2005, 00:56	#1
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,505	Shadow Program So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. They get to eat with me, sit in on ground lessons and fly when possible (in anything with enough seats). The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation. Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!!

March 14th, 2005, 01:06	#2
I_Money Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal Posts: 5,651	Re: Shadow Program I jumpsat on an A340 LAX-LHR, I stayed in the cockpit for the first hour, went back to the cabin had a proper drink, went back up to the cockpit chatted with the guys, went back to my seat again (it was boring up there) went to sleep, woke up as we were over Scotland, and walked up to the cockpit and took the jumpseat for landing (well until I got kicked out for a seatbelt malfunction, in first class - no other seats were avaliable!). I learnt a lot about being a pilot that day - how boring cruise was!!

March 14th, 2005, 01:08	#3
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,522	Re: Shadow Program No...but I'd love to. How did they find out about you?

March 14th, 2005, 01:11	#4
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,505	Re: Shadow Program I learned about the program, and volunteered! None of the other instructors seemed to have any interest, but I sure did! What an opportunity! None of the students are forced into it, either. They're paired up with people in a field that interests them, and nobody is forced to spend time with the lads. It's 100% volunteer. Not bad, huh?

March 14th, 2005, 01:11	#5
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 18,901	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. [/ QUOTE ] So what they don't have to go to school for a solid week? -Matthew

March 14th, 2005, 01:12	#6
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,505	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. [/ QUOTE ] So what they don't have to go to school for a solid week? -Matthew [/ QUOTE ] That's it! However, they have to hang with me from 0700 until about 1700.....longer days, without their buds!!

March 14th, 2005, 01:18	#7
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 18,901	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] That's it! However, they have to hang with me from 0700 until about 1700.....longer days, without their buds!! [/ QUOTE ] Okay...thats awesome. Is it safe to have four people in a 172? Do the two guys both want to be airline pilots or have a career in aviation? What are there career goals? -Matthew

March 14th, 2005, 01:23	#8
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,505	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] Is it safe to have four people in a 172? [/ QUOTE ] Without a doubt! Now, probably not with full fuel (depending on the size of all parties involved). I've flown 172s with four adult men! Now, we may have only had full fuel, but we were safe! [ QUOTE ] Do the two guys both want to be airline pilots or have a career in aviation? What are there career goals? [/ QUOTE ] Not sure yet....I'll know bright and early!!

March 14th, 2005, 01:29	#9
Maximillian_Jenius Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: KPHX, KFFZ, KIWA Posts: 18,901	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is it safe to have four people in a 172? [/ QUOTE ] Without a doubt! Now, probably not with full fuel (depending on the size of all parties involved). I've flown 172s with four adult men! Now, we may have only had full fuel, but we were safe! [/ QUOTE ] Oh jus wanted to know cause we couldn't take more then two people up in a 172 when I was getting my PPL full tanks or otherwise. Granted it was summer time in TUS and between 110-115 degrees. -Matthew

March 14th, 2005, 01:33	#10
planejay Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: from CO in tulsa, ok Posts: 233	Re: Shadow Program Lloyd, that is awesome that you are letting them tag along. The shadow program is how I got started in aviation. I am very thankful for the program, the instructors, and students that had to deal with me for that day (ours wasn't a week long). This was the only opportunity I had ever had to get a glimpse of the field and loved every minute of it. From then on I was hooked and still after the big goal. Thats my story...well the shorter less boring version.

March 14th, 2005, 01:39	#12
I_Money Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal Posts: 5,651	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is it safe to have four people in a 172? [/ QUOTE ] Without a doubt! Now, probably not with full fuel (depending on the size of all parties involved). I've flown 172s with four adult men! Now, we may have only had full fuel, but we were safe! [/ QUOTE ] Oh jus wanted to know cause we couldn't take more then two people up in a 172 when I was getting my PPL full tanks or otherwise. Granted it was summer time in TUS and between 110-115 degrees. -Matthew [/ QUOTE ] It can be done. Now, it's going to take a bit of runway, and the climb rate won't be spectacular in those conditions. At those temps (and the accompanying density altitude), it's going to be a long, scary climb.... [/ QUOTE ] I am more concerned about having 4 people in the plane in those temps - imagine if someone was sick!!!! EWWW!!!

March 14th, 2005, 02:08	#13
USMCmech Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas TX Posts: 1,624	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] Is it safe to have four people in a 172? [/ QUOTE ] I've had five people in a C-182. Me plus four jumpers, and two of those guys hadn't missed any meals. The DZ owner claimed he had taken off with five jumpers before.

March 14th, 2005, 02:12	#14
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. [/ QUOTE ] I expect them to know the Manual of Arms forwards and back by the end of the week.

March 14th, 2005, 02:20	#15
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,734 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] How did they find out about you? [/ QUOTE ] Don't you know, *His milk shake brings all the boys to the yard* Just be nice to them in the plane!!

March 14th, 2005, 09:41	#16
flyover Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,389	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation. Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!! [/ QUOTE ] I'm not saying how I learned this, but let me state in the STRONGEST terms possible. DO NOT take them out for a beer after work!

March 14th, 2005, 09:55	#17
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,506	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation. Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!! [/ QUOTE ] I'm not saying how I learned this, but let me state in the STRONGEST terms possible. DO NOT take them out for a beer after work! [/ QUOTE ] ....or ask "do you like gladiator movies, Billy?"

March 14th, 2005, 13:09	#18
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 18,223 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. They get to eat with me, sit in on ground lessons and fly when possible (in anything with enough seats). The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation. Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!! [/ QUOTE ]AHHH take your kids to work week huh?! HAHA btw - still can't see your avatar dude... did they ban you from showing it?

March 14th, 2005, 13:51	#19
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,505	Re: Shadow Program [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So, there's a job-shadow program at one of the local private schools, and since I volunteered, I have two high school juniors hanging out with me this week at work. They get to eat with me, sit in on ground lessons and fly when possible (in anything with enough seats). The idea is to show them what it's like in our profession, and give them more than 20 minutes of aviation. Anybody else participate in a program like this? I couldn't pass the opportunity up!! [/ QUOTE ]AHHH take your kids to work week huh?! HAHA btw - still can't see your avatar dude... did they ban you from showing it? [/ QUOTE ] Ah, yeah....my avatar. I had some issues with my web hosting, and so all my crap is kind of not-accessable while it's getting fixed. Guess I better get a new one...

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