Gas prices on the rise...

SkyJeff · March 4th, 2005, 16:15

It looks like gas prices may go up .25 cents within the next week.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ncrease24cents

I'd love to see gas prices in the next 5-7 years. We can do our best to keep terrorists from attacking buildings, but gas prices are just another way to kill us. If gas prices go up so will flight training, which is expensive already.

Acadia · March 4th, 2005, 16:25

Most of the world has learned to live with high gas prices. It just means we can’t take fuel for granted and may have to change some habits. People will adapt and in the end it is probably a good thing because it will spur the use of new technology and alternate fuels.

Dazzler · March 4th, 2005, 16:54

Still cheap compared to the rest of the world.

Icelandair · March 5th, 2005, 01:50

Only cheap because the rest of the world taxes the daylight out of gasoline. Gas should be 1.00 a gallon, no more. Maybe if we'd start drilling our own oil things would be a little better.

Derek_S · March 5th, 2005, 03:47

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Maybe if we'd start drilling our own oil things would be a little better.

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Haha, seriously. Now all I need to do is find me a good piece of land that has oil... oh wait, it is already all owned by the billion dollar oil companies that won't drill!

ROFCIBC · March 5th, 2005, 08:21

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Only cheap because the rest of the world taxes the daylight out of gasoline. Gas should be 1.00 a gallon, no more. Maybe if we'd start drilling our own oil things would be a little better.

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Gas probably is about 1.00 a gallon, maybe less. But after taxes and the oil companies profits....

flyover · March 6th, 2005, 08:55

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Most of the world has learned to live with high gas prices. It just means we can’t take fuel for granted and may have to change some habits. People will adapt and in the end it is probably a good thing because it will spur the use of new technology and alternate fuels.

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Agree that technology is where we are going to "find" our new oil reserves. 787 is an example. Hybrid and alternate fuel cars another. Of course the way the rest of the world has learned to live with high prices is by having drastically smaller economies than us. Where middle class is having no more than one child, sharing one very small car and a modest apartment. It's basically what we would call a depression here.

Mariano · March 6th, 2005, 11:22

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Most of the world has learned to live with high gas prices. It just means we can’t take fuel for granted and may have to change some habits. People will adapt and in the end it is probably a good thing because it will spur the use of new technology and alternate fuels.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agree that technology is where we are going to "find" our new oil reserves. 787 is an example. Hybrid and alternate fuel cars another. Of course the way the rest of the world has learned to live with high prices is by having drastically smaller economies than us. Where middle class is having no more than one child, sharing one very small car and a modest apartment. It's basically what we would call a depression here.

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That's quite an analysis there.

I'm European, from Spain, Although I have lived in England and Germany, so I have experienced, what you call a "depression".

First of all, to stay on topic, I'll tell you that when I got here to the US, one of the first things that got my attention (apart from the amount of obese people that I could see everywhere), was the the size of the SUV's, in Europe they are smaller, more gas efficient in general, and they're not as abundant as here. Of course the gas is more expensive in Europe, so feeding one of this monsters would be very costly for the average working man.
Secondly, yes we pay a lot of taxes for gas, but a lot of those taxes go to (rather than to make the next aircraft carrier or F-22) to support a great public health and education systems.
Third, the media is much less controlled there, which means that people is in general more opinionated, rather than alienated (like here).
It's a lot of "little" details like the ones above, which makes the overall quality of life better there than here, specially for people with lower incomes.
Your description of a middle class family is more like a lower mid-class family would be.

Dazzler · March 6th, 2005, 11:29

Gas ("petrol") in the UK is mainly all tax. It costs my dad the equivalent of $80 to fill up his Beemer

flyover · March 6th, 2005, 16:41

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I'm European, from Spain, Although I have lived in England and Germany, so I have experienced, what you call a "depression".

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Not at all. I said if the US economy were "transformed" into a typical European economy we would think of it as a depression. Big difference.

Snow · March 7th, 2005, 11:03

It's getting more expensive because of all the stupid independant state requirements for petrol, if all the states could just agree on a single fuel requirement then refining costs would go down. But hey a tankful was costing $70 back in oz, so I'm not complaining.

Also fuel hasn't kept up with inflation, it's unreasonable for it to remain the same cost for a decade, I'm sure you all make more money now than you did ten years ago.

wheelsup · March 7th, 2005, 13:25

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I'm sure you all make more money now than you did ten years ago.

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Not if you're an airline pilot

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~wheelsup

Doug Taylor · March 7th, 2005, 13:26

Uhh, I made about $9,200 in 1995!

And considering that I'm verbally wrestling with a multi-level marketing goombah on another forum, I'd be more than happy to send you a 1040EZ!

stuckingfk · March 7th, 2005, 14:09

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Uhh, I made about $9,200 in 1995!

And considering that I'm verbally wrestling with a multi-level marketing goombah on another forum, I'd be more than happy to send you a 1040EZ!

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So what is this MLM whiz trying to sell you on?

MikeD · March 7th, 2005, 14:34

Here in Vegas, unleaded is running about $2.17/gal. Tough when you drive a K-5. Diesel is outrageous too.

Doug Taylor · March 7th, 2005, 16:13

One guy is involved with "World Financial Group" and there's always a few Amway and Excell dorks running about.

Mr_Creepy · March 7th, 2005, 19:16

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One guy is involved with "World Financial Group" and there's always a few Amway and Excell dorks running about.

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Do you mean World Marketing Alliance?

btw, reg gas in Orlando is 1.81 at Racetrac.

Doug Taylor · March 7th, 2005, 19:54

And the price of tea in China is...

It's WFG for sure, but those dweebs operate under so many psuedonyms, I wouldn't be suprised.

I just did a google and they're related. Or at least conspicuously close HQ in Duluth, GA.

It was actually a lot worse in the late 90's, but it's making a "wonderful" comeback.

Mr_Creepy · March 8th, 2005, 07:48

[ QUOTE ]
And the price of tea in China is...

It's WFG for sure, but those dweebs operate under so many psuedonyms, I wouldn't be suprised.

I just did a google and they're related. Or at least conspicuously close HQ in Duluth, GA.

It was actually a lot worse in the late 90's, but it's making a "wonderful" comeback.

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Yeah I almost got involved with WMA. I don't recommend it unless you are an MLM pro.

It costs less to go get your licenses by yourself, and then you don't split your profits with your "upline."

Of course, if you can get your downline going (in any of these schemes) you stand to make some money.

I just don't like MLM because of the vertical relationships. It puts people in a upline-downlin situation.

Usually great educational opportunities though.

March 4th, 2005, 16:15	#1
SkyJeff Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Covington, LA Posts: 173	Gas prices on the rise... It looks like gas prices may go up .25 cents within the next week. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ncrease24cents I'd love to see gas prices in the next 5-7 years. We can do our best to keep terrorists from attacking buildings, but gas prices are just another way to kill us. If gas prices go up so will flight training, which is expensive already.

March 4th, 2005, 16:25	#2
Acadia Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: BHB - Maine Posts: 2,966	Re: Gas prices on the rise... Most of the world has learned to live with high gas prices. It just means we can’t take fuel for granted and may have to change some habits. People will adapt and in the end it is probably a good thing because it will spur the use of new technology and alternate fuels.

March 4th, 2005, 16:54	#3
Dazzler Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 936	Re: Gas prices on the rise... Still cheap compared to the rest of the world.

March 5th, 2005, 01:50	#4
Icelandair Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Dakota, USA Posts: 247	Re: Gas prices on the rise... Only cheap because the rest of the world taxes the daylight out of gasoline. Gas should be 1.00 a gallon, no more. Maybe if we'd start drilling our own oil things would be a little better.

March 5th, 2005, 03:47	#5
Derek_S Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 398	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] Maybe if we'd start drilling our own oil things would be a little better. [/ QUOTE ] Haha, seriously. Now all I need to do is find me a good piece of land that has oil... oh wait, it is already all owned by the billion dollar oil companies that won't drill!

March 5th, 2005, 08:21	#6
ROFCIBC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bossier City, Louisiana Posts: 591	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] Only cheap because the rest of the world taxes the daylight out of gasoline. Gas should be 1.00 a gallon, no more. Maybe if we'd start drilling our own oil things would be a little better. [/ QUOTE ] Gas probably is about 1.00 a gallon, maybe less. But after taxes and the oil companies profits....

March 6th, 2005, 08:55	#7
flyover Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,389	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] Most of the world has learned to live with high gas prices. It just means we can’t take fuel for granted and may have to change some habits. People will adapt and in the end it is probably a good thing because it will spur the use of new technology and alternate fuels. [/ QUOTE ] Agree that technology is where we are going to "find" our new oil reserves. 787 is an example. Hybrid and alternate fuel cars another. Of course the way the rest of the world has learned to live with high prices is by having drastically smaller economies than us. Where middle class is having no more than one child, sharing one very small car and a modest apartment. It's basically what we would call a depression here.

March 6th, 2005, 11:22	#8
Mariano Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: KPDX Posts: 1,194	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Most of the world has learned to live with high gas prices. It just means we can’t take fuel for granted and may have to change some habits. People will adapt and in the end it is probably a good thing because it will spur the use of new technology and alternate fuels. [/ QUOTE ] Agree that technology is where we are going to "find" our new oil reserves. 787 is an example. Hybrid and alternate fuel cars another. Of course the way the rest of the world has learned to live with high prices is by having drastically smaller economies than us. Where middle class is having no more than one child, sharing one very small car and a modest apartment. It's basically what we would call a depression here. [/ QUOTE ] That's quite an analysis there. I'm European, from Spain, Although I have lived in England and Germany, so I have experienced, what you call a "depression". First of all, to stay on topic, I'll tell you that when I got here to the US, one of the first things that got my attention (apart from the amount of obese people that I could see everywhere), was the the size of the SUV's, in Europe they are smaller, more gas efficient in general, and they're not as abundant as here. Of course the gas is more expensive in Europe, so feeding one of this monsters would be very costly for the average working man. Secondly, yes we pay a lot of taxes for gas, but a lot of those taxes go to (rather than to make the next aircraft carrier or F-22) to support a great public health and education systems. Third, the media is much less controlled there, which means that people is in general more opinionated, rather than alienated (like here). It's a lot of "little" details like the ones above, which makes the overall quality of life better there than here, specially for people with lower incomes. Your description of a middle class family is more like a lower mid-class family would be.

March 6th, 2005, 11:29	#9
Dazzler Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 936	Re: Gas prices on the rise... Gas ("petrol") in the UK is mainly all tax. It costs my dad the equivalent of $80 to fill up his Beemer

March 6th, 2005, 16:41	#10
flyover Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 3,389	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] I'm European, from Spain, Although I have lived in England and Germany, so I have experienced, what you call a "depression". [/ QUOTE ] Not at all. I said if the US economy were "transformed" into a typical European economy we would think of it as a depression. Big difference.

March 7th, 2005, 11:03	#11
Snow Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 870	Re: Gas prices on the rise... It's getting more expensive because of all the stupid independant state requirements for petrol, if all the states could just agree on a single fuel requirement then refining costs would go down. But hey a tankful was costing $70 back in oz, so I'm not complaining. Also fuel hasn't kept up with inflation, it's unreasonable for it to remain the same cost for a decade, I'm sure you all make more money now than you did ten years ago.

March 7th, 2005, 13:25	#12
wheelsup Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: _ Posts: 5,494	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] . I'm sure you all make more money now than you did ten years ago. [/ QUOTE ] Not if you're an airline pilot . ~wheelsup

March 7th, 2005, 13:26	#13
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,164 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gas prices on the rise... Uhh, I made about $9,200 in 1995! And considering that I'm verbally wrestling with a multi-level marketing goombah on another forum, I'd be more than happy to send you a 1040EZ!

March 7th, 2005, 14:09	#14
stuckingfk Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: El Forko Grande Posts: 2,605	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] Uhh, I made about $9,200 in 1995! And considering that I'm verbally wrestling with a multi-level marketing goombah on another forum, I'd be more than happy to send you a 1040EZ! [/ QUOTE ] So what is this MLM whiz trying to sell you on?

March 7th, 2005, 14:34	#15
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Gas prices on the rise... Here in Vegas, unleaded is running about $2.17/gal. Tough when you drive a K-5. Diesel is outrageous too.

March 7th, 2005, 16:13	#16
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,164 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gas prices on the rise... One guy is involved with "World Financial Group" and there's always a few Amway and Excell dorks running about.

March 7th, 2005, 19:16	#17
Mr_Creepy Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone Posts: 5,810	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] One guy is involved with "World Financial Group" and there's always a few Amway and Excell dorks running about. [/ QUOTE ] Do you mean World Marketing Alliance? btw, reg gas in Orlando is 1.81 at Racetrac.

March 7th, 2005, 19:54	#18
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,164 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Gas prices on the rise... And the price of tea in China is... It's WFG for sure, but those dweebs operate under so many psuedonyms, I wouldn't be suprised. I just did a google and they're related. Or at least conspicuously close HQ in Duluth, GA. It was actually a lot worse in the late 90's, but it's making a "wonderful" comeback.

March 8th, 2005, 07:48	#19
Mr_Creepy Old Skool Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the O-zone Posts: 5,810	Re: Gas prices on the rise... [ QUOTE ] And the price of tea in China is... It's WFG for sure, but those dweebs operate under so many psuedonyms, I wouldn't be suprised. I just did a google and they're related. Or at least conspicuously close HQ in Duluth, GA. It was actually a lot worse in the late 90's, but it's making a "wonderful" comeback. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I almost got involved with WMA. I don't recommend it unless you are an MLM pro. It costs less to go get your licenses by yourself, and then you don't split your profits with your "upline." Of course, if you can get your downline going (in any of these schemes) you stand to make some money. I just don't like MLM because of the vertical relationships. It puts people in a upline-downlin situation. Usually great educational opportunities though.

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