Regional Airline Acacdemy?

[A320_DUDE]

Anybody know anything about this place? Are they good,bad or just plain ugly. I just sent away for a info package but hopefully some of you guys know some things the ads don't say. Any info will be helpful!

[montanapilot]

Run away as fast as you can. They are worse than Delta Connection Academy when it comes to false advertising. Regional Airline Academy is so overpriced its not even funny.

[stuckingfk]

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Anybody know anything about this place? Are they good,bad or just plain ugly. I just sent away for a info package but hopefully some of you guys know some things the ads don't say. Any info will be helpful!

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I know an instructor that works there. He is full of ##### too, so that might tell you something.

[DE727UPS]

I don't know that anyone from RAA posts here. I'll just say their ads are as bad as DCA and leave it at that. At least DCA has several folks at jetcareers who like the place and speak good about it. There are also several that don't like it but at least there is dialouge. I think with the worst, like TAB and Gulfstream, that no one wants to post about them here as they know how most of us feel about PFT.

[jjm]

yeah, I got such a bad feeling from them after only one (of many) phone calls. I would stay away. They're unproven, too- they haven't been around that long.

J

[crashmbern]

well i was offered a job there as an instructor. ALL I HAD TO DO WAS PAY $6,000 FOR SOME AIRLINE PILOT COURSE. And that was with a discount.

[ERJ-135]

What is your definition of PFT? Please be specific and give examples. I know that this subject has, been beat to death, however, I think it a myth. One could say the internship program at any airline is a subtle form of PFT, or better defined as "brown nose'n"

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"If you say you don't have time to do it right, then how are you going to find time to do it over?" R. Zook

[MikeD]

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What is your definition of PFT? Please be specific and give examples. I know that this subject has, been beat to death, however, I think it a myth. One could say the internship program at any airline is a subtle form of PFT, or better defined as "brown nose'n"



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Type in "PFT" in the Search function subject-only and select "newer than 3 months". press it......it's still all there.

[jonnyb]

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What is your definition of PFT? Please be specific and give examples. I know that this subject has, been beat to death, however, I think it a myth. One could say the internship program at any airline is a subtle form of PFT, or better defined as "brown nose'n"

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Yeah, I think we've hashed this out ENOUGH. Next question.........

[DE727UPS]

My defination of PFT (it would be better to call it PFJ, pay for job) is when you pay to sit in a seat that would be someones job at "normal" airline in order to build flight time. Are you paying to be a required crewmember? Can the plane go without you?

Eagle Jet. Not PFT, you aren't a required crewmember.

Gulfstream, TAB. PFT, you are paying for a job and the plane can't go without you since you are a required crewmember. Gulfstream actually does pay you $8/hr but I think that has to do more with state labor law. You pay out FAR more than than you make back.

[flyhigh]

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What is your definition of PFT?

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[EDUC8-or]

I know a couple of guys who work there as well as a few students. Every time I'm over in DED it seems like their fleet keeps getting newer and nicer. I checked out some guy from RAA in one of our airplanes who had a CRJ type rating with aboout 300 hours under his belt.

[jonnyb]

Anyone know what the point is with these guys getting typed in the RJ? Not like you can use it. It goes onto the Commercial certificate, not the ATP, so the ride has to be taken again anyway. They can't log PIC and they're experience level is pretty much nil. LAME...

[EDUC8-or]

It doesn't make much sense to me either. Spend that cash on some multi time or an instructor rating. It will look much better in an interview and in the case of an instructor rating, pay for itself much faster.

[Doug Taylor]

I need a .wav file of Rocky of 'Rocky and Bullwinkle' fame saying 'agaiiiiin?'

[ERJ-135]

Hey, it's about hype and it sways unsuspecting young'ns to cash out a dream. I would like to know what airline hires their students with such low flight times. I bet the school gets a kick-back for the RJ sim training.

[ERJ-135]

You don't need the ATP to log PIC if you are type rated in a CRJ. It only applies to the airlines.

[jonnyb]

Uh, yeah,,,,,no kidding. Exactly my point. It applies to 121 and 135. The proper checks are required (.293, .297 and .299 for 135) and that little thing called an Airline Transport Pilots license.

[A320_DUDE]

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I need a .wav file of Rocky of 'Rocky and Bullwinkle' fame saying 'agaiiiiin?'

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Hey Doug, I tried to do a search but could'nt find any info....sorry!

I'll crawl back under my rock now!

[Ophir]

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It doesn't make much sense to me either. Spend that cash on some multi time or an instructor rating. It will look much better in an interview and in the case of an instructor rating, pay for itself much faster.

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That is some of the best advice given. Read above statement, it is your ticket to success. It is called getting experience.

[Doug Taylor]

The search feature defaults to '1 week' unless you make another selection. We've had a PFT discussion about once every six weeks for the past 4 years! Well, almost.

[viper548]

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What is your definition of PFT? Please be specific and give examples. I know that this subject has, been beat to death, however, I think it a myth. One could say the internship program at any airline is a subtle form of PFT, or better defined as "brown nose'n"

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"If you say you don't have time to do it right, then how are you going to find time to do it over?" R. Zook

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The word "internship" is getting thrown around loosly by some airlines. The "internship" at Gulfstream is YOU paying THEM to work for them. They are REQUIRED to have a co-pilot on their flights. If they didn't have anyone in their "internship" they would have to pay someone to do it. Companies like Gulfstream make internships sound evil.

I did an internship with Skywest. I did not pay them anything for the opportunity to be their intern. I helped out in the flight operations department, helped board the airplanes, and ran errands. As an intern, I got to see how an airline operates, got to travel on their airline for free, and got to see if it was a company that I wanted to work for. My internship didn't steal anyone's job. They offer it to college students, and often times you can get credit from your school. They didn't do any fancy advertising to try to get interns, they didn't say I would get a guaranteed interview, or tell me I would become competitive with high time pilots by completing their internship.
Most airlines have internships similar to Skywest's. They aren't advertised in magazines and they are good way to get a foot in the door and not all internships at airlines are PFT.

[SJFLYER]

I went to RAA shortly after getting screwed by DCA. I did the type and landed a job with XJT shortly after. The only thing I would do differently is bypass the DCA experience. My experience at RAA was very good and in my opinion it is a good program.

I would like for someone to tell me how I PFT.

XJT did not get a cent from RAA
I did a CRJ type and I am flying an ERJ
XJT is paying for my training 100%

[jonnyb]

You didn't. The only thing you did that I think is a waste of money is the CRJ type. I understand if you don't want to answer, but how much $ did you put out at RAA alone?

[SJFLYER]

I spent less than I did at DCA to get my CFI.
You are entitled to your opinion but I don’t think it was a waste of money. Thanks to it I was able to get the job at XJT with 600 hrs and more importantly I am cruising thru training.

The type rating pays itself in opportunity cost alone.