Misdemeanors

[UAL747400]

I shouldn't even know how to spell misdemeanor let alone know what they are. But anyway, three months ago I recieved a misdemeanor for possesion of alcohol under age. I wasnt arrested (if that makes a difference) but had to pay a pretty heafty fine. I was just wondering if you guys think that might affect me in the future.

In Iowa this is ranked the same as a speeding ticket or making alot of noise. I didnt really think it was a big deal at the time, more like a slap on the wrist as to not do that. But now I dont know.

Thanks for the input guys.

Tom

[I_Money]

I would not worry about it. You are young, you make mistakes when you are young, and it is not like being in possession of alcohol under 21 is that serious of a crime.

[UAL747400]

Yeah, thats kind of what I figured.

Tom

[Doug Taylor]

Misdemeanor... probably ok.

Mideameanors... probably NOT ok.

[UAL747400]

Yeah I should have been more clear, its just one.

[aloft]

I'm going to dissent here and say that it may not be a big deal to *some* people, but it might to others (for a few years anyway), as it's evidence of a lack of judgment.

And I wouldn't make a habit of it. Start playing life by the rules. ALL of them, not just the ones you agree with.

[Cheechako]

It might affect you...

Here's something from SkyWest's internal communications:
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As a reminder, Canadian Immigrations will perform background checks on all individuals entering
Canada who do not provide proof of Canadian citizenship. Any non-citizen entering Canada for
pleasure, for business, under a student status, or as a temporary or permanent resident is subject
to a background check.
These background checks may be performed electronically while en-route via aircraft or upon
arrival. Anyone with a past criminal background, including being charged with or being convicted
of a misdemeanor (such as shoplifting or driving under the influence), may be fined and/or refused
entry into Canada. Minor traffic offenses do not apply.


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Some flight crews have been detained and fined ($200 to $500) for misdemeanors. Those crewmembers with a misdemeanor on the record in the last 5 years are not allowed to bid any Canada flights. Those with a record 5-10 years have some paperwork hoops to jump through (some cost big bucks).

As a result, anyone with a misdemeanor in the last 10 years is disqualified from pilot employment at Skywest.

I don't know anything about legal affairs, but you might want to check into how you can get that off your record.

[UAL747400]

Damn that sucks. Im digging deeper, since its a class c misdemeanor thats not a traffic offense. I should be able to expunge or seal it. Its still going to be a bunch of crap just to do that.

Thanks for the info guys.

Tom

[PhotoPilot]

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I would not worry about it. You are young, you make mistakes when you are young, and it is not like being in possession of alcohol under 21 is that serious of a crime.

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I disagree. It's not murder or fraud, but you play, you pay. Really no room to gripe when you're caught doing something you knew was wrong, no matter how seemingly small judicially.

I think you'll want to go for 'expunged'. Sealed, I believe, can still show on background checks, but can't be used in future court proceedings.

Good luck!

[FOD]

Just do what you have to do to get it covered up. I received a minor in possesion when i was 18, i was given the chance to take alcohol classes and get it taken off my record and did. Hopefully they offer you the same. I had a 10 year background check ran on me for an airline job and it did'nt show up.

If you can't get it taken off, so be it. If it ever gets brought up in an interview just take all the blame for it, don't make any excuses!

One last thing, don't screw up again!!!!!!!

[adreamer]

Is driving without the proof of insurance a misdemeanor offense?


adreamer

[JaceTheAce]

Why is it that so many people here in Grand Forks get in trouble for under age drinking? I guess because it's a college town police have to really enforce it. So stupid. I was always careful drinking when I was underage, so I never got caught.

[Doug Taylor]

And apparently you're a very careful and conscientious driver too, eh Jace?

[MQAAord]

I know lots of parents who were really carefull with their birth control too......

[Doug Taylor]

Geez,thanks Amber! So much for that bottle of wine and homecooked meal this evening!

[MQAAord]

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Geez,thanks Amber! So much for that bottle of wine and homecooked meal this evening!

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Just saying that no matter how 'careful' you are, things happen! (Both ours were not accidents, but I know LOTS who were!)



I was actually arrested at age 20 for underage drinking. We were sitting quietly with no drinks in hand in my friends dorm room. The RA came by and asked to use the phone, he used it to call the cops to give us all breathalizers just because we were hanging out with the door open. We had been out drinking earlier, and all failed our tests. I and another friend were actually taken in because she was under 18, and had to have an adult to who's custody she could be released.

I was hired by Eagle two months later, nothing was ever said about it. This was in 1995, and I have been in and out of Canada many times as a working crew member without incident.

[mtsu_av8er]

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The RA came by and asked to use the phone, he used it to call the cops to give us all breathalizers just because we were hanging out with the door open.

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What a cock!!! I would have whipped his a$$ on principle.

[flygirl813126]

You are such a troublemaker Amber

[Bandit_Driver]

Canada can be pretty tricky...I have had co-workers denied entry into Canada after being in and out many times. Both of them them have had a misdemeanor on their records that happened 20+ years ago. Both were forced to jump thru a lot of hoops and pay a few thousand to get it taken off their records. After about a year of legal work they are now allowed back into Canada.

[stuckingfk]

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I was actually arrested at age 20 for underage drinking. We were sitting quietly with no drinks in hand in my friends dorm room. The RA came by and asked to use the phone, he used it to call the cops to give us all breathalizers just because we were hanging out with the door open. We had been out drinking earlier, and all failed our tests.

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There is actually a law here in ND and MN that if you are asked to take a breathalizer, you can refuse without any penalty under two conditions. 1) you don't have a drink in hand and 2) you aren't driving.

So many young people would get out of a MIP or MIC if they new this law.

[UAL747400]

I didnt get caugt here. I was caugt back home in Iowa at a buddys going away party. Drinking wasnt my thing, still isnt but my buddy was going into the military so I thought what the hell I might not get to hang out with him for a while. I also thought at this time that the worst they would do is take all the beer and arrest/fine the person distributing it. I also didnt think they could bust a private party inside a house just to look for alcohol. Ignorence is bliss I guess. So like the nano second I grabbed a beer the police busted the party.

This is definetly a wake up call for me to be more careful about what I do. I talked to one of my dads friends whos a lawyer and he said I will be able to expunge this charge off my record. Lucky for me I guess.

Tom

[RPM]

getting something expunged DOES NOT take it off your FBI criminal history records like it never happened....I don't know where people get that crap from...I know from experience...once its on there it stays!! It only comes off the state records, which does you no good for an airline backround check.

I have a dumbass misdemeanor charge (for being in the vicinity of some other idiots breaking the law and not stopping them) from 6 years ago thats still screwing me for 4 more years, not on state records anymore but its still on my FBI records forever. This country has some f***d up laws

[Ryan110175]

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There is actually a law here in ND and MN that if you are asked to take a breathalizer, you can refuse without any penalty under two conditions. 1) you don't have a drink in hand and 2) you aren't driving.

So many young people would get out of a MIP or MIC if they new this law.

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Same here in Ohio. There are no consequences for refusing to take a breathalizer, as long as you were not driving. Case in point. I was 20 years old and witnessed a street fight (long story) after a party I was at. Anyways the cops show up and throw all the idiots in the back of their cars and haul em off. A couple of cops then approach me to ask me a few questions and try to get me to take a breathalizer. I refused and they went berzerk. One started yelling in my face "why would I refuse if I had nothing to hide". After I passed all of the field sobriety tests, he ended up taking me to the police station anyway, and kept hounding me to take the breathalizer. He was convinced I had been drinking (he was right ) I kept saying no, untill they realized they had no right to hold me and let me go.
However, if you refuse a breathalizer after getting pulled over, then I think you're screwed. They can take your license on the spot for a year.

[UAL747400]

Yeah I kind of figured It would only come off of state records as thats the only thing I can find on record expunction (if thats a word). Damn, this makes me wish I wasnt so nice with the officer. My circumstance for getting this(i wont go into details) is not worth all this crap. All this just for POSSESION, not even consumption, inside a friggin house.

No use pissing and moning about it. I'll have to take responsibility even though I dont agree with it.

Tom

[mtsu_av8er]

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They can take your license on the spot for a year.

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Which might be better than having having a DUI....