Uno mas pregunta.

texflyguy · November 3rd, 2004, 21:23

What steps do you have to go through to file an IFR flight plan? I have always wondered this and what credencials or such do you have to put? do you have to put your license # on it or your medical #? just kinda bored and I'd thought I'd ask.

Thanks,
Clay

aloft · November 3rd, 2004, 21:31

You're much pregnant? What?

bjm · November 3rd, 2004, 21:36

You just call the local Automated Flight Service Station, choose to speak with a briefer, and give the correct info as requested on the FAA flight plan form. You have to be a instrument rated to file IFR, and the flight plan has a space for the pilot's name. No license # or medical.

texflyguy · November 3rd, 2004, 22:10

so whats stoping someone thats an instrument student but not rated yet from filing IFR besides the weather?

Clay

Dave_Hall · November 3rd, 2004, 22:39

common sense

SteveC · November 3rd, 2004, 22:42

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common sense

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Occasionally Darwin lends a hand.

Windchill · November 3rd, 2004, 22:57

[ QUOTE ]
Occasionally Darwin lends a hand.

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... and his good friend Murphy

RABIRZA69 · November 3rd, 2004, 23:02

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so whats stoping someone thats an instrument student but not rated yet from filing IFR besides the weather?

Clay

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www.ntsb.gov

texflyguy · November 3rd, 2004, 23:04

I realize that but lets just say for example, I am on a flight from KAUS-KBRO its VFR along the whole route, but I want to save fuel so i break the law and file IFR to get up to 250 or so. If no one finds out about it whats the point?

Clay

Windchill · November 3rd, 2004, 23:19

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If no one finds out about it whats the point?

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Join the Air Force, maybe they can teach you some core values:

USAF Core values:

1)INTEGRITY FIRST
2)Service Before Self
3)Excellence in All You Do

Seriously, if no one knows you're falsifying your logbook, what's to stop you?

It's about character. Self-respect, honesty, respect for the laws of our nation (to include FARs). If you don't possess these traits, perhaps you shouldn't fly ... or many other things.

JEP · November 3rd, 2004, 23:47

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but I want to save fuel so i break the law and file IFR to get up to 250 or so. If no one finds out about it whats the point?

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It's great to know there will be one less person in line for the F/O interviews

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texflyguy · November 4th, 2004, 00:13

no worries guys im not planning on doing that its just that particular question has been bugging me alot lately I dont know why but it just seems maybe someone needs to make laws stricter regarding that issue maybe put in a blank on the form saying pilots license # and then someone check it. but whatever I dont need to worry about this for about 3 years

Clay

JEP · November 4th, 2004, 00:45

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it just seems maybe someone needs to make laws stricter regarding that issue

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That would do little if, anything to stop that practice. We need to be able to self-police (for lack of a better term) ourselves. If one is willing or thinking about breaking the rules and filing an IFR flightplan w/o the rating, they may just fly without filing the flightplan at all. I would worry about it because if I am flying IFR and some yahoo is doing so as well without the rating it would bother me.

mtsu_av8er · November 4th, 2004, 01:44

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3)Excellence in All You Do

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As long as it isn't too physical...

Sorry, I couldn't resist...lol.

Windchill · November 4th, 2004, 22:09

"Work smarter, not harder ... let the Army do that"

Bandit_Driver · November 4th, 2004, 22:29

I have seen this too many times before when I was flying cargo...Just don't do it unless you want to end up dead someday....

I have had several close calls on IFR days while shooting an approach into an uncontrolled field. You have joe blow buzzing in and out of the bases in the pattern. I break out and nearly run the guy over on final. Yes it was well below VFR mins.

I had another close call while flying for the airlines. We received a TCAS RA while we were in the soup. It appears that some yahoo was trying to get on top and didn't think he needed to call ATC. We got the RA right before ATC began screaming about a collision alert and telling us to climb also.

The last I head ATC tagged the airplane and would find out who he was if he went to a controlled field.

Those two reasons should be reasons enough not to fly IFR w/o a flight plan and the rating.

mavsfflife · November 4th, 2004, 22:38

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You're much pregnant? What?

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i think that is "one more question"...but i coulda sworn i chose english for the language when i signed up here.

AngelFuree · November 4th, 2004, 22:54

What if you have the knowledge but not the money to pay for the checkride?

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Yes, I know I know, you wouldn't have the money to be flying in the first place.

MikeD · November 4th, 2004, 23:07

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You're much pregnant? What?

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i think that is "one more question"...but i coulda sworn i chose english for the language when i signed up here.

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Correct. Pregunta(s) is question(s). Embarasada is pregnant.

Kristie · November 4th, 2004, 23:17

Thank you for answering that guys, i was wondering what it meant as well! I got Uno and Mas cuz it's the same as Uno mas por favor....but still....

mtsu_av8er · November 5th, 2004, 00:28

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i think that is "one more question"...but i coulda sworn i chose english for the language when i signed up here.

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Well, if you're in a country with an official language...

AngelFuree · November 5th, 2004, 09:43

Una pregunta más.

Minnesota_Flyer · November 5th, 2004, 11:10

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Pregunta(s) is question(s). Embarasada is pregnant.

[/ QUOTE ]Avergonzar is to embarass.

Go figure. Silly Spain people!!

November 3rd, 2004, 21:23	#1
texflyguy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100	Uno mas pregunta. What steps do you have to go through to file an IFR flight plan? I have always wondered this and what credencials or such do you have to put? do you have to put your license # on it or your medical #? just kinda bored and I'd thought I'd ask. Thanks, Clay

November 3rd, 2004, 21:31	#2
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 6,998	Re: Uno mas pregunta. You're much pregnant? What?

November 3rd, 2004, 21:36	#3
bjm Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Columbia, MO (COU) Posts: 62	Re: Uno mas pregunta. You just call the local Automated Flight Service Station, choose to speak with a briefer, and give the correct info as requested on the FAA flight plan form. You have to be a instrument rated to file IFR, and the flight plan has a space for the pilot's name. No license # or medical.

November 3rd, 2004, 22:10	#4
texflyguy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100	Re: Uno mas pregunta. so whats stoping someone thats an instrument student but not rated yet from filing IFR besides the weather? Clay

November 3rd, 2004, 22:39	#5
Dave_Hall Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 55	Re: Uno mas pregunta. common sense

November 3rd, 2004, 22:42	#6
SteveC Moderator Join Date: May 2003 Location: GRR Posts: 8,619	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] common sense [/ QUOTE ] Occasionally Darwin lends a hand.

November 3rd, 2004, 22:57	#7
Windchill Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-Atlantic, KMRB Posts: 1,925	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] Occasionally Darwin lends a hand. [/ QUOTE ] ... and his good friend Murphy

November 3rd, 2004, 23:02	#8
RABIRZA69 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Shaolin NY, ACK MA Posts: 588	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] so whats stoping someone thats an instrument student but not rated yet from filing IFR besides the weather? Clay [/ QUOTE ] www.ntsb.gov

November 3rd, 2004, 23:04	#9
texflyguy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100	Re: Uno mas pregunta. I realize that but lets just say for example, I am on a flight from KAUS-KBRO its VFR along the whole route, but I want to save fuel so i break the law and file IFR to get up to 250 or so. If no one finds out about it whats the point? Clay

November 3rd, 2004, 23:19	#10
Windchill Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-Atlantic, KMRB Posts: 1,925	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] If no one finds out about it whats the point? [/ QUOTE ] Join the Air Force, maybe they can teach you some core values: USAF Core values: 1)INTEGRITY FIRST 2)Service Before Self 3)Excellence in All You Do Seriously, if no one knows you're falsifying your logbook, what's to stop you? It's about character. Self-respect, honesty, respect for the laws of our nation (to include FARs). If you don't possess these traits, perhaps you shouldn't fly ... or many other things.

November 3rd, 2004, 23:47	#11
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,865 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] but I want to save fuel so i break the law and file IFR to get up to 250 or so. If no one finds out about it whats the point? [/ QUOTE ] It's great to know there will be one less person in line for the F/O interviews .

November 4th, 2004, 00:13	#12
texflyguy Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 100	Re: Uno mas pregunta. no worries guys im not planning on doing that its just that particular question has been bugging me alot lately I dont know why but it just seems maybe someone needs to make laws stricter regarding that issue maybe put in a blank on the form saying pilots license # and then someone check it. but whatever I dont need to worry about this for about 3 years Clay

November 4th, 2004, 00:45	#13
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,865 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] it just seems maybe someone needs to make laws stricter regarding that issue [/ QUOTE ] That would do little if, anything to stop that practice. We need to be able to self-police (for lack of a better term) ourselves. If one is willing or thinking about breaking the rules and filing an IFR flightplan w/o the rating, they may just fly without filing the flightplan at all. I would worry about it because if I am flying IFR and some yahoo is doing so as well without the rating it would bother me.

November 4th, 2004, 01:44	#14
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,564	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] 3)Excellence in All You Do [/ QUOTE ] As long as it isn't too physical... Sorry, I couldn't resist...lol.

November 4th, 2004, 22:09	#15
Windchill Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-Atlantic, KMRB Posts: 1,925	Re: Uno mas pregunta. "Work smarter, not harder ... let the Army do that"

November 4th, 2004, 22:29	#16
Bandit_Driver Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: DTW Posts: 1,797	Re: Uno mas pregunta. I have seen this too many times before when I was flying cargo...Just don't do it unless you want to end up dead someday.... I have had several close calls on IFR days while shooting an approach into an uncontrolled field. You have joe blow buzzing in and out of the bases in the pattern. I break out and nearly run the guy over on final. Yes it was well below VFR mins. I had another close call while flying for the airlines. We received a TCAS RA while we were in the soup. It appears that some yahoo was trying to get on top and didn't think he needed to call ATC. We got the RA right before ATC began screaming about a collision alert and telling us to climb also. The last I head ATC tagged the airplane and would find out who he was if he went to a controlled field. Those two reasons should be reasons enough not to fly IFR w/o a flight plan and the rating.

November 4th, 2004, 22:38	#17
mavsfflife Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Waco, TX Posts: 283	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] You're much pregnant? What? [/ QUOTE ] i think that is "one more question"...but i coulda sworn i chose english for the language when i signed up here.

November 4th, 2004, 22:54	#18
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,201	Re: Uno mas pregunta. What if you have the knowledge but not the money to pay for the checkride? . . . . . . . . Yes, I know I know, you wouldn't have the money to be flying in the first place.

November 4th, 2004, 23:07	#19
MikeD Administrator Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Pinal Airpark Posts: 6,897	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] You're much pregnant? What? [/ QUOTE ] i think that is "one more question"...but i coulda sworn i chose english for the language when i signed up here. [/ QUOTE ] Correct. Pregunta(s) is question(s). Embarasada is pregnant.

November 4th, 2004, 23:17	#20
Kristie Big Chief's Woman Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Scottsdale, Arizona Posts: 18,699 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Uno mas pregunta. Thank you for answering that guys, i was wondering what it meant as well! I got Uno and Mas cuz it's the same as Uno mas por favor....but still....

November 5th, 2004, 00:28	#21
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,564	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] i think that is "one more question"...but i coulda sworn i chose english for the language when i signed up here. [/ QUOTE ] Well, if you're in a country with an official language...

November 5th, 2004, 09:43	#22
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,201	Re: Uno mas pregunta. Una pregunta más.

November 5th, 2004, 11:10	#23
Minnesota_Flyer Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul Posts: 1,952	Re: Uno mas pregunta. [ QUOTE ] Pregunta(s) is question(s). Embarasada is pregnant. [/ QUOTE ]Avergonzar is to embarass. Go figure. Silly Spain people!!

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