Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern Cal

JEP · November 2nd, 2004, 01:02

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Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern California, killing all four aboard
Monday November 01, 2004
LEBEC, Calif. (AP) A small plane crashed on a remote hillside near Los Angeles, killing all four people aboard and sending authorities on a 12-hour hunt to track the wreckage through the aircraft's emergency beacon.

The airplane, found early Monday, was believed to be en route to Harris Ranch, an inn and dining complex with an airstrip in the San Joaquin Valley near Coalinga, the Kern County Sheriff's Department said.

The single-engine, six-seat Cessna 182 apparently went down about 3:30 p.m. Sunday, said Donn Walker, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration. The crash triggered the plane's emergency locator transmitter, and state officials asked the county and the Civil Air Patrol to look for the source of the signal somewhere between Santa Maria and Gorman.

Walker said the pilot did not file a flight plan. The plane was found in a remote area near Tejon Ranch about 60 miles northwest of Los Angeles, authorities said.

(Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

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Two questions:
1 - A 6-seat 182..???? is this correct
2 - Just curious how many do or do not file a flight plan on a XC flight. If you do file a flight plan, is there a 'cutoff' distance where you consider not filing.

The reason I ask is the flightplan has been pounded into my brain since I started training. I cannot imagine flying a XC without one. Maybe that's just my newness (is that even a word?).

averyrm · November 2nd, 2004, 01:06

Usually when I fly a longer x-country I file for IFR. If I'm VFR, I don't file.

The aircraft was either a 182 or 6 seats. The press isn't the best at this.

mtsu_av8er · November 2nd, 2004, 01:08

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2 - Just curious how many do or do not file a flight plan on a XC flight.

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If I'm flying a cross country VFR, I'm with a student. If that's the case, then I'll ensure that a flight plan has been filed.

If I'm pleasure flying, or even working - but running the show alone - I'm on an instrument flight plan. It's a moot point then.

planejay · November 2nd, 2004, 01:35

I always try to make and file a flight plan if the flight is more then 50 nm but thats probably because its been pounded into my head since the beginning and IFR if IMC (ofcourse) or a long xc even in VFR conditions

I_Money · November 2nd, 2004, 01:49

I rarely used to file a flight plan. I did get flight following the whole way though.

aloft · November 2nd, 2004, 06:22

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Search Mission AFRCC 04M2412 opened 31 Oct 04 and closed 01 Nov 04 for
an ELT south of Bakersfield.

ELT was DFed by a CAP UDF team to a crashed Cessna 182 at N 34 56.977 by
W 118 47.072. ELT and aircraft were secured by the Kern Co. Sheriff's
Office. No survivors.

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November 2nd, 2004, 01:02	#1
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,887 Blog Entries: 1	Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern Cal [ QUOTE ] Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern California, killing all four aboard Monday November 01, 2004 LEBEC, Calif. (AP) A small plane crashed on a remote hillside near Los Angeles, killing all four people aboard and sending authorities on a 12-hour hunt to track the wreckage through the aircraft's emergency beacon. The airplane, found early Monday, was believed to be en route to Harris Ranch, an inn and dining complex with an airstrip in the San Joaquin Valley near Coalinga, the Kern County Sheriff's Department said. The single-engine, six-seat Cessna 182 apparently went down about 3:30 p.m. Sunday, said Donn Walker, a spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration. The crash triggered the plane's emergency locator transmitter, and state officials asked the county and the Civil Air Patrol to look for the source of the signal somewhere between Santa Maria and Gorman. Walker said the pilot did not file a flight plan. The plane was found in a remote area near Tejon Ranch about 60 miles northwest of Los Angeles, authorities said. (Copyright 2004 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.) [/ QUOTE ] Two questions: 1 - A 6-seat 182..???? is this correct 2 - Just curious how many do or do not file a flight plan on a XC flight. If you do file a flight plan, is there a 'cutoff' distance where you consider not filing. The reason I ask is the flightplan has been pounded into my brain since I started training. I cannot imagine flying a XC without one. Maybe that's just my newness (is that even a word?).

November 2nd, 2004, 01:06	#2
averyrm Old Skool Join Date: May 2002 Location: LCK Posts: 1,653	Re: Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern Cal Usually when I fly a longer x-country I file for IFR. If I'm VFR, I don't file. The aircraft was either a 182 or 6 seats. The press isn't the best at this.

November 2nd, 2004, 01:08	#3
mtsu_av8er Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Utopia Posts: 12,567	Re: Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern [ QUOTE ] 2 - Just curious how many do or do not file a flight plan on a XC flight. [/ QUOTE ] If I'm flying a cross country VFR, I'm with a student. If that's the case, then I'll ensure that a flight plan has been filed. If I'm pleasure flying, or even working - but running the show alone - I'm on an instrument flight plan. It's a moot point then.

November 2nd, 2004, 01:35	#4
planejay Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: from CO in tulsa, ok Posts: 237	Re: Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern Cal I always try to make and file a flight plan if the flight is more then 50 nm but thats probably because its been pounded into my head since the beginning and IFR if IMC (ofcourse) or a long xc even in VFR conditions

November 2nd, 2004, 01:49	#5
I_Money Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal Posts: 5,674	Re: Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern Cal I rarely used to file a flight plan. I did get flight following the whole way though.

November 2nd, 2004, 06:22	#6
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,009	Re: Small plane crashes in remote area of Southern Cal [ QUOTE ] Search Mission AFRCC 04M2412 opened 31 Oct 04 and closed 01 Nov 04 for an ELT south of Bakersfield. ELT was DFed by a CAP UDF team to a crashed Cessna 182 at N 34 56.977 by W 118 47.072. ELT and aircraft were secured by the Kern Co. Sheriff's Office. No survivors. [/ QUOTE ]

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