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Old November 1st, 2004, 17:59   #1
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Does every single pilot cast a vote on either taking a pay cut or not? or does the Union make that decision for them? Sorry but I don't know much about unions.
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The company and union negotiators agree on a "Tentative Agreement".

Then the "Tentative Agreement" comes to the average line Joe for his approval via a vote a few weeks after the "Tentative Agreement".

That's *IF* you have "Membership Ratification" which some unions do not.
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Thank you for clearing that up
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Old November 1st, 2004, 19:30   #4
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membership ratification?
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Means that I have to review the tentative agreement and vote on it.
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so the unions don't always have membership ratification? which cases would they NOT have that?
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Well, I'm not sure, but I think a long time ago the union at my employer didn't. The union negotiators would more or less go into a room with the company negotiators, and more or less walk out with an agreement.

But "something happened" one day and then the pilot group demanded membership ratification.
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So basically this TA might not pass if Delta pilots like yourself don't like it?
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If enough of the membership votes no on the ratification, it will not pass.

That is unlikely however. It's expected to pass.
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Thank you very mucho MQAAord...
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Old November 2nd, 2004, 18:57   #11
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Membership ratification is a pretty recent event in airline history. Not all carriers have it, and the subject is a bit controversial in some respects. Most carriers did not have it 10 years ago.
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