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Old September 20th, 2004, 20:10   #26
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That's for the CRJ or the Dash? Or both?

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Both. Crosswind limitations are referenced the aircraft limitations/braking action
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Old September 20th, 2004, 23:49   #27
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So, you could take off and fly in a tropical storm? Cool!

I am just imagining taking off in the mighty C172 in a 50 knot wind. Woo hoo! Probably get off the ground in 100 feet!

And then on landing, we'd need like 5,000.
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Old September 21st, 2004, 00:26   #28
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So, you could take off and fly in a tropical storm? Cool!

I am just imagining taking off in the mighty C172 in a 50 knot wind. Woo hoo! Probably get off the ground in 100 feet!

And then on landing, we'd need like 5,000.

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Uh....might help if you try landing into the wind...
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Old September 21st, 2004, 00:56   #29
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D'oh! Yeah, you're right!

Would that be an interesting pattern or what?

What kind of crab angle would you need on base? And geez, would that downwind leg be a quick one or what?
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Probably turning crosswind mid-field!
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Old September 21st, 2004, 01:17   #31
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Probably turning crosswind mid-field!

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and don't wait very long to turn base and final or you'll roll out 2 miles from the threshold. 12 minutes later you'll be landing. (60 knots true - 50 knots headwind = 10 knots over the ground. 10 knots = 6 minutes per mile.)
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Old September 21st, 2004, 01:23   #32
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I've made that mistake during visual approaches in the MD-88 during massive crosswinds aloft.

Once I was flying from SLC to MCI with a monster tailwind and ended up making this HUGE parabolic turn to final on the 19R (or whatever the runway is). The NAV display indicated a 60 knot tailwind at 3,000 feet but the ATIS and tower were indicating a 10 knot crosswind on final approach.

Overshoot and wait....and wait...
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Old September 21st, 2004, 01:37   #33
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So, you could take off and fly in a tropical storm? Cool!

[/ QUOTE ] Not that cool until you actually experience... Flying out of ATL last thursday was my BIG experience... most of the 767's were on hold because of fluctuating winds between 28 knts and 34 knts (dunno if they were talking crosswinds or not)... F/O came on the PA and said FAA had a rule to hold at 30 knts & stronger, so we were on the taxiway for at least an hour waiting for the winds to subside some.. but man - during takeoff... i had to keep telling myself "it's an amusement ride, just a roller coaster" to chill myself out!! actually kinda scary...extremely bumpy and swaying from side to side is not always that fun - esp when your sitting way in the BACK of the plane watching the front twist.

and that was as the hurricane was moving northward! i was lucky to get into ATL, most people were not.. fortunately, because so many flights were already cancelled coming into ATL, i didn't get stuck but i did end up having a nice 5-6 hr layover there running from gate to gate trying to catch a flight.. the fun part - even the gate agents didn't know when the planes were going to take off so the times were continuously screwed up on the arrival/departure screens.. it was pretty interesting to see just how flustered EVERYONE was....but i gotta say, the gate agents did a great job keeping composure - some of them had been there all day and you could tell they were T I R E D!!
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Yeah, I know. Us aviation geeks would love it -- how quick can this heavy jet get off the ground -- but the average passenger would be like, oh, my God, we're going to die.
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Old September 21st, 2004, 11:42   #35
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I like going into flighsim and setting the winds to like 180 knots and hover a 747 over the numbers on the runway. Yeah, so I was that bored once. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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