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Old September 16th, 2004, 18:10   #1
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Default AA DC9 incident at ORD Engine explosio

Just saw breaking news that a DC9 lost it's number 1 engine during takeoff. The engine supposedly injested a couple of birds and suffered a severe failure, including a fire. Witnesses at the airport stated the engine was spewing flames as it climbed out. It then exploded over my in-laws neighboorhood reigning peices of the engine onto the park a few blocks away. I saw the pics and a good 5x5 foot of the side cowling is missing and blackened. No injuries on the ground or the plane and they made a safe landing back at O'Hare.

http://www.nbc5.com/news/3736848/det...mp;dppid=65193
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Old September 16th, 2004, 18:31   #2
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All over the news here. They actually did a pretty good job reporting it without being sensationalistic on air. They said it was possibly a bird, then the reporter went into detail how bird strikes are a regular occurance across the airspace system and often times are not reported.

If you look at the pictures, they taxied off the runway and didn't evacuate with slides. Good deal.

One more thing: Look at picture 15 on the slideshow (http://www.nbc5.com/slideshow/373692...qs=;s=15;w=320). Yeah, that's REALLY the bird that went through the engine. SURE. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Old September 16th, 2004, 18:36   #3
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It could have been a bird that was stuck by the plane or the debris. not usual to find birds laying around the city looking like all the bones are broken. None-the-less, interesting incident. Though I love how channel 5 on the last report talked about the black marks just behind the number 2 engine as if there were flames there, looked like exhaust soot to me! oh well, like you said, seemed like pretty good reporting. Though what's with the number 2 pic of that random guy!?!?

Though nice handling of the incident, 4 minutes from the time the pilots reported an engine emergency and the plane landed. Good job by ORD controllers getting them back in so quickly.
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Old September 16th, 2004, 19:53   #4
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Good job!

Rather see a Canada goose over my shotgun sight than in my windshield.
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Old September 16th, 2004, 20:02   #5
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Sounds like a job well done! Kudos to the two pilots!
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It's terrorism! Plainly a terrorist suicide attack by some militant wackjob of a bird! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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We're going to have to start profiling birds.
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Old September 16th, 2004, 20:42   #8
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We're going to have to start profiling birds.

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You laugh..

In the AF, in our BASH, or Bird Aircraft Strike Hazard program; many varieties of birds are "profiled" by size, weight, migration habits, roosting habits, etc. Now, some want to get into which birds fly IFR, so we can determine which birds could be expected to be airborne around a base when the ceilings are low. Sort of overdoing it, IMO.......
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(in my best Ron White voice impression)...

That's profilin, and profilin is wrong...
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Old September 18th, 2004, 16:03   #10
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We're going to have to start profiling birds.

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You laugh..

In the AF, in our BASH, or Bird Aircraft Strike Hazard program; many varieties of birds are "profiled" by size, weight, migration habits, roosting habits, etc. Now, some want to get into which birds fly IFR, so we can determine which birds could be expected to be airborne around a base when the ceilings are low. Sort of overdoing it, IMO.......

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I don't care who you are...that's funny right there!
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Old September 18th, 2004, 16:41   #11
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I bet they're soon gonna make birds file their flight plans. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/spin2.gif[/img]
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Old September 20th, 2004, 01:24   #12
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We did a bird strike scenario in the simulator last year and it was pretty nasty.

I had a close friend hit a few Canadian Geese in a Beech 1900 and he quite literally thought the aircraft was going to come apart on him. Eek!

In fact, here's the NTSB Report.

I had dinner with the captain and he said it was so bad that the the deadheading captain (another guy I know) came up to the cockpit, knocked on the door and said, "Hey, man, I think we're toast. It doesn't look good at ALL."
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Old September 20th, 2004, 01:36   #13
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Birds suck, flying around here (and probably anywhere else in the US) in the spring and fall while the geese are migrating is insane. If the flocks are big enough, they show up on radar here and i've heard approach issue traffic advisories for "possible flocks of geese".
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Old September 20th, 2004, 14:02   #14
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Yeh, I'll bet it goes something like this:

Controller: Geese flight 1, state your intentions, you are not cleared into Class B airspace.
Contoller: AALxxxx, traffic 12o'clock, 2 miles, not my control, VFR, close formation geese, report visual, cleared for avoidance vectors.
AALxxxx: Roger, traffic in sight.
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Old September 20th, 2004, 14:02   #15
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i've heard approach issue traffic advisories for "possible flocks of geese".

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I'd rather run into a flock of geese than ever have to run into a Flock of Seagulls...... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Mike, you've got to admit for the time, the song "I Ran" was the jam!
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I had a close friend hit a few Canadian Geese in a Beech 1900 and he quite literally thought the aircraft was going to come apart on him. Eek!

I had dinner with the captain and he said it was so bad that the the deadheading captain (another guy I know) came up to the cockpit, knocked on the door and said, "Hey, man, I think we're toast. It doesn't look good at ALL."

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Canada (not Canadian) Geese are bad news. Very well built birds! I had a nasty run in with one early in my career.

But I have to say that the deadheading guy sure wasn't very encouraging. I'm sure after telling them "we're toast" he also told them "We're all behind you. And don't call me Shirley."
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And that was the strange thing. The 'jumpseater' was normally very mild mannered. The type of guy who you'd be dodging mid afternoon thunderstorms over Lake Michigan and he's calmly talking about how his girlfriend won't commit, his flatulent dog, yadda yadda yadda.
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